IIRC who you ask is irrelevant, you ask one guard what the other would say and then do the opposite. Because the liar would give the wrong answer (by nature), and the truth teller would give the liars lie.-Stoic Joker (February 27, 2015, 06:49 AM)
IIRC who you ask is irrelevant, you ask one guard what the other would say and then do the opposite. Because the liar would give the wrong answer (by nature), and the truth teller would give the liars lie.-Stoic Joker (February 27, 2015, 06:49 AM)
IIRC who you ask is irrelevant, you ask one guard what the other would say and then do the opposite. Because the liar would give the wrong answer (by nature), and the truth teller would give the liars lie.-Stoic Joker (February 27, 2015, 06:49 AM)
Its easier to just kick them in the shin and ask if it hurt. Then you know which one is telling the truth and which one isn't.
Of course your solution is less likely to piss them off.-SeraphimLabs (February 27, 2015, 07:42 AM)
Mensa problems-Renegade (February 27, 2015, 08:39 AM)
IIRC who you ask is irrelevant, you ask one guard what the other would say and then do the opposite. Because the liar would give the wrong answer (by nature), and the truth teller would give the liars lie.-Stoic Joker (February 27, 2015, 06:49 AM)
Its easier to just kick them in the shin and ask if it hurt. Then you know which one is telling the truth and which one isn't.
Of course your solution is less likely to piss them off.-SeraphimLabs (February 27, 2015, 07:42 AM)
Plus assuming they are guarding something of great value implies they have weapons at the ready to prevent entry and/or dispatch intruders. But now that you mention it, a simpler solution might be asking either "If I try to kick you in the nuts will you kill me?" If the guard answers "no" he's the liar.-MilesAhead (February 27, 2015, 08:20 AM)
Not necessarially. For that to be reliable you would have to know in advance how the guards would respond to your provocation-SeraphimLabs (February 27, 2015, 11:57 AM)
Far be it from me to inject a real question into this thread, but here is a real question:
In our normal base 10, we have a protocol for SPEAKING large numbers, so 154 is "one hundred and fifty four".
Using the same logic, what would be the generic method for similarly SPEAKING large numbers in other bases?-mouser (February 27, 2015, 12:46 PM)
In our normal base 10, we have a protocol for SPEAKING large numbers, so 154 is "one hundred and fifty four".-mouser (February 27, 2015, 12:46 PM)
My guess would be that decimal based would be considered the default. Therefore if one sees 0xFF on the page and says "two hundred and fifty five," one would be correct.
My guess would be that decimal based would be considered the default. Therefore if one sees 0xFF on the page and says "two hundred and fifty five," one would be correct.
Well I was really asking if there was a logical way to speak such numbers WITHOUT converting them first to base 10 and speaking in base 10.-mouser (February 27, 2015, 02:36 PM)
Far be it from me to inject a real question into this thread, but here is a real question:
In our normal base 10, we have a protocol for SPEAKING large numbers, so 154 is "one hundred and fifty four".
Using the same logic, what would be the generic method for similarly SPEAKING large numbers in other bases?-mouser (February 27, 2015, 12:46 PM)
Not sure what base that all is thoughBase villain.-tomos (February 27, 2015, 05:17 PM)
'And only ONE for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
'I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.'
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master—that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. 'They've a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they're the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
'Would you tell me, please,' said Alice 'what that means?'
'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'
'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who know trinary.
@renegade I challenge you to find another base system which has the series 1, [another number] and 10.-Fred Nerd (February 27, 2015, 07:40 PM)
As for how they're spoken, I don't know.
Although I would imagine Octal is spoken like the decimal it looks like e.g. 27oct would be Twenty-Seven, octal.-Fred Nerd (February 27, 2015, 07:40 PM)
Hex is annoying because it can't be spoken in a lot of cases so it has to be spelled out.-Fred Nerd (February 27, 2015, 07:40 PM)
Not to mention plumber's numbers where $150 turns out to be really $375.-Fred Nerd (February 27, 2015, 07:40 PM)
Not to mention plumber's numbers where $150 turns out to be really $375-Fred Nerd (February 27, 2015, 07:40 PM)