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New computer arriving probably tomorrow, and I have a few queries as I know SFA about windows 7 and want to install it :)
Hope you can help!
I'm installing Windows 7 professional. I'm interested in XP mode as I'm still using software from 1999 :)
New machine will have 8GB ram, i5 2400 CPU. So I guess if XP mode is unsuccessfull I can use XP in a virtual whachamacallit (I have no experience yet with "virtual"!). [1] or should I install XP as well and dual boot?
Other aspects are, [2] how large a partition should I use for windows + software (very roughly) I wont be installing games but will be installing some spacehoggers like adobe illustrator.
Wont have to worry about page file till after install, but think I could chance disabling it, will wait see how I get on
[3] What's the story about win 7 recovery partition - and diagnostic tools? would I have to create a recovery partition like this:
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/4093-windows-7-create-a-recovery-partition
not sure if I need or want that, suspect I'd prefer to work with an image made once the software is installed.
I'm sure I'll have more once I get going.
TIA, Tom
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I love the VirtualPC thing and will probably never go back to dual booting. I've got networkable virtual copies of everything back to DOS v6.22.
C: partition, I thought 40GB would be enough but it's bitten me a few times, if you got the space and are going to be using large apps go at least 60 or 80GB.
Recovery partions are only useful if you don't have the install media (IMO). If you really want to image, use a 3rd party app to image it to a completely different external drive that can be moved to a safe location.
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Is your computer preinstalled with Windows 7 Pro or do you have to upgrade?
If you have to upgrade just switch it on and let the manufacturer's install complete and then when you get top the desktop bung in your Pro disk and follow the Upgarde instructions (they have to be the same architecture - ie. both 32 bit or 64 bit).
If your computer isn't preinstalled or you want to change from 32 bit to 64 bit Pro then you will need to do a clean install. Boot the computer from the installation disk and do a clean install.
You don't need a recovery partition but it easy to make one - just install windows and during installation use the partition manager to select partition sizes and make an extra small partition at the end of the disk (leave about 40Gb - you can always resize it later). Do the whole install including any important apps and then use Backup in Windows 7 to create an image backup to the extra partition. When it is done go into computer management disk manager and hide the recovery partition by removing the assigned letter (you can still recover from it but you won't see it in Windows). Recovery partition is a quick easy way to do a clean reinstall with all your main software preinstalled and preactivated.
If you have a Windows DVD to install from all the recovery tools are on there and you can use them by booting from the Windows disk. Alternatively Windows backup gives the option to create a Windows Recovery CD (worth doing so that you don't overuse the MS original disk).
My partition layout goes something like this:
System Reserved: 100Mb (created by Windows Installer)
Windows partition: 100Gb
Data Partition: rest of the Disk - about 40Gb
Recovery partition: 40Gb
I have other drives installed too to allow other data storage.
Re. XPMode you need to download it from MS website (wait until you have Windows 7 installed or it won't let you).
If you have an old Windows XP disk you might want to consider using VirtualBox or VMWare instead and install XP on it. XPMode hasn't got great hardware support.
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thanks Carol & sj :up:
it's a custom built machine, so I'll be doing a clean install myself. Havent got either yet (machine or windows disc) so just thinking ahead yet.
I do have a couple of XP licenses so virtual sounds like the best idea. From what I've heard about windows 7 it's easy enough to install etc.
The last time I installed XP, I used Parted Magic/gparted first to setup the partitions. Will probably just do that with the win install this time.
I've got networkable virtual copies of everything back to DOS v6.22.-Stoic Joker
that sound impressive :)
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I use gparted to do my initial setups. But I'd strongly suggest running a Microsoft "fix master boot record" (i.e. run bootrec /FixMbr from the DVD on the harddrive prior to installing Windows7 "just in case."
Details and how-to here (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392) if you need them. 8)
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:huh: You really don't like the 100MB boot partition? Given the new breed of scareware rootkits and their tendency to infect the MBR ... I'm thinking the system is best left in control of that one.
Otherwise the Windows install partitioning is super easy to use. Hit advanced, set C: as X, and worry about the rest later when you start moving in.
[Just thought to check]
On my office machine I went with a 40GB C:, and it's rather cramped these days(mentioned before). Here at home I went with 85GB and that's been much better. So ideal is probably somewhere between that and Carol's 100GB. Anything smaller = bad.
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If you are going to dual boot XP make sure you install XP first and make sure you use the tool to align the hard disk at the format stage (Win 7 does this automatically so use that to create the other partitions - in fact you could use the windows 7 set up disk to create one partition for windows XP, allow it to format the drive and then abort the installation and install XP on it). If you install XP first it will sort out a multiboot installation when you install Windows 7 - if you install XP after 7 you will have to build a new bootrecord.
Also if XP is installed first you won't get an extra boot partition - the boot stuff for windows 7 will be placed on the XP partition to allow dual booting.
Not sure if Windows 7 Backup will backup both the XP and the 7 partition - but I can't see why not.
I would suggest:
Part 1: Windows XP (80Gb)
Part 2: Windows 7 (100Gb)
Part 3: Data (Shared between both) (Rest of the Disk)
Part 4: Recovery backup - 50Gb (to allow enough space for the whole initial install)
Both system will assume the currently running Windows is drive C (sol long as XP is installed first) - then you can use disk management to make sure that the data drive has a consistent drive letter in both versions of WIndows.
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will be installing some spacehoggers like adobe illustrator.
-tomos
Don't forget to decommission the license for that, if you still can, ready to go on the new machine.
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Hi, Tomos. I recently bought a computer rather similar to the one you've described: Win 7 Professional 64-bit, 8 GB RAM, i5 2400. Like you, I have some programs that date from the 1990s, and I was afraid that they wouldn't run on this machine and so I would have to figure out how to use XP mode. Well, to my surprise, almost all the programs I have will run under Windows 7. Every now and then, I'd be asked whether I wanted to run the program in "compatibility mode." If I said yes, I was given a choice of various earlier versions of Windows. I didn't have to install anything to make the computer give me this choice. It seems to be a feature simply built into Windows 7 (or perhaps Windows 7 Professional). Whether this is what is meant by XP-mode, I'm not sure. I didn't expect the process to be so seamless. Anyway, I think you too may find that all or almost all your programs will run on Windows 7 without your having to do much to make that happen.
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If I understand it correctly, the XP-Mode is basically a free copy of Windows XP installed in Microsoft Virtual PC.
So if you already have an XP license, you might as well install it in your VM software of choice.
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If I understand it correctly, the XP-Mode is basically a free copy of Windows XP installed in Microsoft Virtual PC.
So if you already have an XP license, you might as well install it in your VM software of choice.
-Deozaan
You do understand correctly.
Having said that I installed XPMode when I set up my system but apart from the initial testing to see how it worked I have never had to use it for any real purpose. Almost everything I need has installed immediately in Windows 7 64-bit without issue. The only software I upgraded was Quickbooks.
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Cyberdiva, that's funny, you having the same setup and older software! Good to know of your experience, will see how I get on with a straight-forward install first. Can mess around with VM's later if necessary.
Thanks Chris, Deo, for the tips
(sent you a PM Chris re illustrator)
Carol, it sounds like I could be okay on the xp front, and if not, I can go the VM route.
Ta very much all :)
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The only trouble I had going to Vista x64, and later Win7 x64, was with 16 bit installers, and software that isn't UAC-fähig. In practice, being a developer most of the time, I have UAC turned off just for the convenience of not having to confirm program-starts during my daily work.
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Having said that I installed XPMode when I set up my system but apart from the initial testing to see how it worked I have never had to use it for any real purpose.
-Carol Haynes
I'm still clunking along on 32-bit XP and will be until my next machine.
Can XPMode run 16-bit stuff?
I tried something that's important to me on DOSBox under W7 Home Premium and that fell over, so that avenue is closed to me.
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XPMode is standard XP 32-Bit OS running in VirtualPC - so there is no reason why anything that will run in XP should have a problem in XPMode (unless it directly accesses hardware or needs a decent graphics card).
I use VMWare a fair amount for testing things in XP etc. and I find it a lot better than VirtualPC - I can even run some games in XP under VMware which I think would be very unlikely in XPMode.
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Thanks Carol.
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XPMode is standard XP 32-Bit OS running in VirtualPC-Carol Haynes
With USB support.
I'm not sure on the graphics, but I'm thinking XPMode also gives better access to the real native graphics hardware.
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XPMode is standard XP 32-Bit OS running in VirtualPC-Carol Haynes
With USB support.
I'm not sure on the graphics, but I'm thinking XPMode also gives better access to the real native graphics hardware.
-Stoic Joker
VirtualBox also gives you USB access, (at least storage, not sure about printers, etc), and DirectX access, (although Serious Sam ran very slowly :) ).
It's also faster than XPMode, (as is every other VM software IIRC).
I think about the only useful situation where XPMode could be considered 'better' than the alternatives is in a business environment where it possibly saves the IT guys some work.
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XPMode is definitely aimed at the business market.
Best way to use printers is to share it from the host machine but that does mean changing the way the network is accessed (by default file and printer sharing doesn't work - though you can access the host drives in an alternative manner).
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Otherwise the Windows install partitioning is super easy to use. Hit advanced, set C: as X, and worry about the rest later when you start moving in.
-Stoic Joker
I took you literally there, just created the C partition and let it off - it's "Expanding windows files" as I write :up:
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Otherwise the Windows install partitioning is super easy to use. Hit advanced, set C: as X, and worry about the rest later when you start moving in.
-Stoic Joker
I took you literally there, just created the C partition and let it off - it's "Expanding windows files" as I write :up:
-tomos
already gone pear shaped - probably my mistake :-[
I created a partition of 100GB and proceeded with the install (I did look at the unalotted space and wondered whether to create another partition, maybe my downfall)
What happened then was that windows was installed in the unalloted space.
So I now have:
- 100GB partition empty, presumably at the start of the disk
- VERY Large partition with windows in it.....
Well, Im laughing about it, so things could be a lot worse :)
Not sure how to proceed, will probably start from scratch, can windows remove the partitions already made?
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You should select/highlight the desired partition (100 GB) before clicking on Continue (or what was that button called), and maybe even format it, but I'm not sure about that.
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You should select/highlight the desired partition (100 GB) before clicking on Continue (or what was that button called), and maybe even format it, but I'm not sure about that.
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Yeah, it was a very easy install but I'll be more careful next time!
I think I'll format the drive completely & start again though, no point in NOT having windows at the start of the drive....
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More complications:
the computer was built with two drive, one faster one slower.
The slower drive is Disk 0
So I installed Windows on Disk 1, but the System 100MB partition went automatically on Disk 0 (or could I have made a mistake there too, no I dont believe so, I had no choice with that).
Is that a problem?
I guess I could swap the drives within the case if necessary....
in case you're totally confused by the above, left column is Disk 0, right is Disk 1
| Disk 0 - slower | Disk1 - faster |
| System 100MB | D 100gig / empty |
| unallocated 2gig | C 800gig / Windows! |
wot a messy business!
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The down side to having done this 100s of times is all the details become second nature so one forgets to mention them. :-[
Start the machine with only one disk installed, the one you want Windows on. You can use the Windows setup program to delete the now booboo set of partitions and start over cleanly with only the 100GB partition and the 100MB boot partition on the same drive.
If you leave it split up the way it is now it'll bite you in the ass down the road when you start trying to troubleshoot something.
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If you leave it split up the way it is now it'll bite you in the ass down the road when you start trying to troubleshoot something.
-Stoic Joker
hadnt even thought of that aspect :tellme:
My sense of organisation alone demands it be done properly!!
Performance too would surely be negatively affected the way it is now...
It'll have to wait till tomorrow at this stage though.
Lovely quiet machine anyways, thankfully :)
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Start the machine with only one disk installed, the one you want Windows on. You can use the Windows setup program to delete the now booboo set of partitions and start over cleanly with only the 100GB partition and the 100MB boot partition on the same drive.
-Stoic Joker
OK I disconnected one hard drive.
During the windows install I could only delete one partition, so I deleted the bigger one and leave the 100GB one which where I wanted Win7 anyways.
But this time round it doesnt say anything about creating a 100MB system partition.
I stopped it and started it again - no difference.
So I'll leave it install & see how it looks at the end - at least it's a quick install :-\
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During the windows install I could only delete one partition, so I deleted the bigger one and leave the 100GB one which where I wanted Win7 anyways.
But this time round it doesnt say anything about creating a 100MB system partition.
-tomos
Doesnt look like it created the 100MB partition :-\ or is it hidden under windows?
No, I'm fairly sure it should show....
Any ideas?
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You can see the 100Mb partition if you look in disk management. It doesn't appear as a drive in 'Computer' because it doesn't have a letter assigned.
I thought you were installing XP too? I strongly recommend you install XP first so that mutliboot settings are set up correctly - otherwise you will end up with either an XP install that doesn't boot (and isn't on drive C) or a Windows 7 that won't boot without repairing it.
The other option would be to unplug the Win7 drive and install XP on the other drive - then use boot device choice in the BIOS at start up to select the drive to boot from.
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You can see the 100Mb partition if you look in disk management. It doesn't appear as a drive in 'Computer' because it doesn't have a letter assigned.
-Carol Haynes
No,
I had a look there. And on the web, apparently whats happening is this:
Windows 7 installation wizard will not modify existing partition which already been defined and allocated. The 100 MB .. partiton will only be created when user creates new partition on a clean and empty HDD (no partitions) [with the windows install dvd], or delete all partitions and then create a new partition during setup. Thus, system with hard disk already partitioned, and users wish no change to existing partitioning but wish to clean install can just format the partition in Windows 7 setup wizard before installing.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/hack-to-remove-100-mb-system-reserved-partition-when-installing-windows-7/
i.e. Windows only creates that partition if starting on a 'clean' (partitionless) hd
Do you think is it important or helpful to have it?
I could clean off all partitions using parted magic
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I would wipe the drive and start from scratch.
By the way I updated my last post while you typed your response.
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I thought you were installing XP too? I strongly recommend you install XP first so that mutliboot settings are set up correctly - otherwise you will end up with either an XP install that doesn't boot (and isn't on drive C) or a Windows 7 that won't boot without repairing it.
-Carol Haynes
I dont know - I thought the general consensus was that going virtual was easier, and had said I would go that route (VM) ....
Do you think installing XP as well would be advantageous?
[edit] I think I'll just stick with the win7 install as both my xp disk are without service packs, or maybe one of them has SP1. Which would mean I'd have to slipstream before the install even.. [/edit]
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I would wipe the drive and start from scratch.-Carol Haynes
Me 2.
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I thought you were installing XP too? I strongly recommend you install XP first so that mutliboot settings are set up correctly - otherwise you will end up with either an XP install that doesn't boot (and isn't on drive C) or a Windows 7 that won't boot without repairing it.
-Carol Haynes
I dont know - I thought the general consensus was that going virtual was easier, and had said I would go that route (VM) ....
Do you think installing XP as well would be advantageous?
[edit] I think I'll just stick with the win7 install as both my xp disk are without service packs, or maybe one of them has SP1. Which would mean I'd have to slipstream before the install even.. [/edit]
-tomos
Sorry I thought there was a debate before over whether to go the VM route or dual boot XP. If you think you are going to use XP regularly I would install it completely separately on the second drive (unplug you Win 7 drive) and then use the BIOS choose boot device to boot to XP when you need to - that way it is easy to remove if you want to remove it in the future as the two installs will be completely independent.
If you plan to keep XP around for the duration install it first and then Windows 7 so that it sorts out a simple multiboot system) - do this with only one drive plugged in.
If XP is just for belt and braces compatibility (and unlikely to be used much) install a VM.
The best solution really depends on what you plan to do with XP in the future!
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> Sorry I thought there was a debate before over whether to go the VM route or dual boot XP.
No apologies! there was a debate but from what Cyberdiva said, I'm hopeful my older software will work okay. I guess I should just test the software at this stage and if it doesnt work, cut my losses and reinstall, but with xp first, as you suggest.
I hope to avoid having to use it at all to be honest :)
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Re the second harddrive -
I ended up deleteing the partitions on it (3, including the 100MB system one)
But there is an extended partition left at the end of the drive(just called "Free Space")
If I try delete this I get the message:
"This is an extended partition. The partition will become inaccessible If you delete it."
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that sounds like I'll lose all that space if I delete? (I googled that without much success)
I unable to resize it (in windows). Is there a windows solution for this - or maybe again a gparted one.
edit/ found some info about it, I dont know what I searched for first time round :-\
edit#2/ just deleted it, it was fine :)
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> Sorry I thought there was a debate before over whether to go the VM route or dual boot XP.
No apologies! there was a debate but from what Cyberdiva said, I'm hopeful my older software will work okay. I guess I should just test the software at this stage and if it doesnt work, cut my losses and reinstall, but with xp first, as you suggest.
I hope to avoid having to use it at all to be honest :)
-tomos
Well, it's looking good, my most important programme works fine.
:-\ I am on the default admin account though, I presume I should be using a normal account or does it matter so much in windows 7?
edit/ will have a look/ask here How necessary is the UAC in Windows 7? (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27383.0)
Update, activated and have made first backup :up: THANKs FOR ALL THE HELP!!!!
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Good news
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I love the VirtualPC thing and will probably never go back to dual booting. I've got networkable virtual copies of everything back to DOS v6.22.
C: partition, I thought 40GB would be enough but it's bitten me a few times, if you got the space and are going to be using large apps go at least 60 or 80GB.
Recovery partions are only useful if you don't have the install media (IMO). If you really want to image, use a 3rd party app to image it to a completely different external drive that can be moved to a safe location.
-Stoic Joker
Nice combination
:-[
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New computer arriving probably tomorrow, and I have a few queries as I know SFA about windows 7 and want to install it :)
Hope you can help!
I'm installing Windows 7 professional. I'm interested in XP mode as I'm still using software from 1999 :)
New machine will have 8GB ram, i5 2400 CPU. So I guess if XP mode is unsuccessfull I can use XP in a virtual whachamacallit (I have no experience yet with "virtual"!). [1] or should I install XP as well and dual boot?
Other aspects are, [2] how large a partition should I use for windows + software (very roughly) I wont be installing games but will be installing some spacehoggers like adobe illustrator.
Wont have to worry about page file till after install, but think I could chance disabling it, will wait see how I get on
[3] What's the story about win 7 recovery partition - and diagnostic tools? would I have to create a recovery partition like this:
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/4093-windows-7-create-a-recovery-partition
not sure if I need or want that, suspect I'd prefer to work with an image made once the software is installed.
I'm sure I'll have more once I get going.
TIA, Tom
-tomos
What's the meaning of SFA ?¿?¿?¿?
:-[
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thanks Carol & sj :up:
it's a custom built machine, so I'll be doing a clean install myself. Havent got either yet (machine or windows disc) so just thinking ahead yet.
I do have a couple of XP licenses so virtual sounds like the best idea. From what I've heard about windows 7 it's easy enough to install etc.
The last time I installed XP, I used Parted Magic/gparted first to setup the partitions. Will probably just do that with the win install this time.
I've got networkable virtual copies of everything back to DOS v6.22.-Stoic Joker
that sound impressive :)
-tomos
Nice indeed. I use gParted from an Ubuntu cd.
:)
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thanks Carol & sj :up:
it's a custom built machine, so I'll be doing a clean install myself. Havent got either yet (machine or windows disc) so just thinking ahead yet.
I do have a couple of XP licenses so virtual sounds like the best idea. From what I've heard about windows 7 it's easy enough to install etc.
The last time I installed XP, I used Parted Magic/gparted first to setup the partitions. Will probably just do that with the win install this time.
I've got networkable virtual copies of everything back to DOS v6.22.-Stoic Joker
that sound impressive :)
-tomos
Custom build machine. Sacred words for me.
Is the only way I know.
Beginning the box.
My old box of my first pc probably in 2013 will convert in a new pc with windows "x"
:P
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What's the meaning of SFA ?¿?¿?¿?
-Contro
eh, it means "nothing" :-[
or... (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SFA) (same thing)
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Contro,
please, could you quote just the text that you are replying to?
Makes it easier for me (and others) to read understand what you are saying.
Thanks!
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I use gparted to do my initial setups. But I'd strongly suggest running a Microsoft "fix master boot record" (i.e. run bootrec /FixMbr from the DVD on the harddrive prior to installing Windows7 "just in case."
Details and how-to here (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392) if you need them. 8)
-40hz
Ouwwww. I didn't. I am trying seven and install in the letter I: from xp, but now is C:
Don't worry . I'll a new entirely disk
By the way. i think the idea of maintaining the dual boot with several differents systems is dead.
But I don't like to take risks , so I have the foolish idea of continuing with my usage of several times installed the same system. Now seems no possible with 7.
:-[
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In order:
1. Hard to say without testing. XP mode works for everything AFAIK. But Win 7 handles many legacy programs without it using its built-in in compatibility mode. So the full virtual machine may not be necessary depending upon what you're running. I'd try installing without and only download and install the XP mode VM if you really need it.
2. Impossible to answer without knowing exactly what you're going to be loading and how big a hard drive you have. If you give yourself about 100Gb that should easily handle Windows plus most anything else the average person is going to install.
3. If your machine came from the manufacturer with a recovery partition, leave it on the machine. If you're installing everything yourself you won't have one nor would you probably need one. It's something put there more for the convenience of the manufacturer when helping an in-warranty customer recover a totally messed up machine.
You can restore your system from images you create and keep on an external drive or other media. It's better your recovery images be on a separate drive anyway in case of hardware failure.
Just don't lose your Windows DVD or your images. 8)
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Contro,
please, could you quote just the text that you are replying to?
Makes it easier for me (and others) to read understand what you are saying.
Thanks!
-tomos
:)
Sorry . I'll take care.
Excuse me.
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In order:
1. Hard to say without testing. XP mode works for everything AFAIK. But Win 7 handles many legacy programs without it using its built-in in compatibility mode. So the full virtual machine may not be necessary depending upon what you're running. I'd try installing without and only download and install the XP mode VM if you really need it.
2. Impossible to answer without knowing exactly what you're going to be loading and how big a hard drive you have. If you give yourself about 100Gb that should easily handle Windows plus most anything else the average person is going to install.
3. If your machine came from the manufacturer with a recovery partition, leave it on the machine. If you're installing everything yourself you won't have one nor would you probably need one. It's something put there more for the convenience of the manufacturer when helping an in-warranty customer recover a totally messed up machine.
You can restore your system from images you create and keep on an external drive or other media. It's better your recovery images be on a separate drive anyway in case of hardware failure.
Just don't lose your Windows DVD or your images. 8)
-40hz
For two years i am learning virtual machines. I have a lot.
My idea is use intensivily.
with 16 GB of ram I am beginning to see the "light"
On the base windows 7 (or windows "x") and a lot of virtual machines.
:-*
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New computer arriving probably tomorrow, and I have a few queries as I know SFA about windows 7 and want to install it :)
Hope you can help!
I'm installing Windows 7 professional. I'm interested in XP mode as I'm still using software from 1999 :)
New machine will have 8GB ram, i5 2400 CPU. So I guess if XP mode is unsuccessfull I can use XP in a virtual whachamacallit (I have no experience yet with "virtual"!). [1] or should I install XP as well and dual boot?
Other aspects are, [2] how large a partition should I use for windows + software (very roughly) I wont be installing games but will be installing some spacehoggers like adobe illustrator.
Wont have to worry about page file till after install, but think I could chance disabling it, will wait see how I get on
[3] What's the story about win 7 recovery partition - and diagnostic tools? would I have to create a recovery partition like this:
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/4093-windows-7-create-a-recovery-partition
not sure if I need or want that, suspect I'd prefer to work with an image made once the software is installed.
I'm sure I'll have more once I get going.
TIA, Tom
-tomos
I was thinking about professional . But the technical assitant service recommend me premium edition.
But I am going to give you a good additional reason to select professional.
Premium edition is limited to 16 GB ram memory.
Profesional edition more than 100 GB ram memory.
Talk about the present ?
The future is the present.
:P
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In order:-40hz
hi 40 -
nice seasonal avatar :)
I think you're answering my questions from last year that Contro quoted... might help him (I'm sorted at this stage).
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^If that's the case then just do a basic install of Win 7 and the drop VMWare Workstation on top of it. Then do everything under virtual. That would be the easiest and best solution IMO. With 16GB RAM and an i5 chip you should be able to handle anything...
8)
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In order:-40hz
hi 40 -
nice seasonal avatar :)
I think you're answering my questions from last year that Contro quoted... might help him (I'm sorted at this stage).
-tomos
Oh...
Ok...
Guess I'm the one who is confused here. :-[
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Hi, Tomos. I recently bought a computer rather similar to the one you've described: Win 7 Professional 64-bit, 8 GB RAM, i5 2400. Like you, I have some programs that date from the 1990s, and I was afraid that they wouldn't run on this machine and so I would have to figure out how to use XP mode. Well, to my surprise, almost all the programs I have will run under Windows 7. Every now and then, I'd be asked whether I wanted to run the program in "compatibility mode." If I said yes, I was given a choice of various earlier versions of Windows. I didn't have to install anything to make the computer give me this choice. It seems to be a feature simply built into Windows 7 (or perhaps Windows 7 Professional). Whether this is what is meant by XP-mode, I'm not sure. I didn't expect the process to be so seamless. Anyway, I think you too may find that all or almost all your programs will run on Windows 7 without your having to do much to make that happen.
-cyberdiva
I think the problem is communicate.
The important thing is communicate.
I have forgot splendid programs and old ones like wordperfect 3.1 or Quattro because the communication.
At the present moment you can have virtual machines running other operating systems, but the importan point for me is the ability to use Ditto (clipboard manager)
Ditto have the feature ditto friends.
i am trying to know the possibility of interchange information with the virtual machine.
I think everyone in this forum wish to have an integrated option.
:P
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^If that's the case then just do a basic install of Win 7 and the drop VMWare Workstation on top of it. Then do everything under virtual. That would be the easiest and best solution IMO. With 16GB RAM and an i5 chip you should be able to handle anything...
8)
-40hz
I have an i7
I am very happy now.
Best Regards.
Really i want to come back to climb mountains
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Guess I'm the one who is confused here. :-[
-40hz
you're not the only one :-\
@ Contro, this blitz of posts with multiple quotes is totally confusing
edt/ I give up
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In order:-40hz
hi 40 -
nice seasonal avatar :)
I think you're answering my questions from last year that Contro quoted... might help him (I'm sorted at this stage).
-tomos
Oh...
Ok...
Guess I'm the one who is confused here. :-[
-40hz
Me ?
:-[
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If I understand it correctly, the XP-Mode is basically a free copy of Windows XP installed in Microsoft Virtual PC.
So if you already have an XP license, you might as well install it in your VM software of choice.
-Deozaan
That's the point. using virtualbox we don't need the professional version. But I have xp pro....
But a good reason is the limit of 16 GB of ram memory with premium edition.
Except that with VirtualPC you can have some things i am very used of :
multiclipboard, by example
Perfect communication between the virtual machine and the host. This is the point, and then have specialized machines.
with your old beloved soft.
:-*