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I see SnagIt has updated again, supporting videocasting now. http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/JX3AHLhM6wk/
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-fine link, db90h, with nice article :up:
Homepage: http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html
Buy individual copies: 47.95€ incl. VAT
Buy multi-user copy: 36.00€ incl. VAT
Upgrade: 24.00€ incl. VAT
I have version 10, but am reluctant to upgrade to 11
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The catalogue of changes seem to be unimpressive and not worth the money. Most of them are minor bugfixes and quite a few removing features!
Nothing compelling added as far as I can see:
http://www.techsmith.com/snagit-version-history.html?ver=11.
I have bought versions of SnagIt since version 2 but I don't think I will bother with this upgrade.
(By the way I thought SnagIt had supported video capture for some time - the ionly mew feature seems to be MP4 support, and output directly to three webservers - two of which belong to TechSmith and are subscription based)
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Shameless plug:
I hope potential SnagIt users will check also out my Screenshot Captor (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/screenshotcaptor/index.html) tool as an alternative, or if you want to see a different kind of program for video capture (of webcam not desktop), check out WebCam Video Diary (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/WebcamVideoDiary/index.html).
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I still do use Screenshot Captor myself. It is a great tool. Nice work on it, using whatever third party components and code from the web you use. It came together well. My intention was not to advertise some competing product, as clearly they are full blown commercial. It was more 'informational'
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Er - please can someone correct the typo in the title of this thread? "SangIt" -> "SnagIt?"
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Er - please can someone correct the typo in the title of this thread? "SangIt" -> "SnagIt?"
done.
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Thanks, mouser.
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Different strokes for different folks -- try all the programs and pick the one that works best for you!
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Big difference in resource usage with Screenshot Capture idling at around 300k.
The others are usually much more.
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Windows System Requirements
.NET 4.0 or later required for video.
One more reason to stay with v10 ;(
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Big difference in resource usage with Screenshot Capture idling at around 300k.
The others are usually much more.
-cmpm
This is true. Snagit 11 sitting idle is never below 50MB. You'll probably want the Editor running in the background. That's another 50MB. It does have some nice features that are not present in ScreenShot Captor, but SSC also has some nice features that are not available in SnagIt. SSC is definitely more customizable, and plays nicer with other apps. SnagIt is very proprietary--for example a fellow wrote a plug-in to do Imgur uploads https://github.com/hmemcpy/SnagitImgur but it can't be installed directly because the SnagIt security is so high.... Pretty frustrating, and not geek-friendly.
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Personally, I bought and use (on a regular basis) FastStone capture (http://faststone.org/). I was turned on to this tool when I was on a temporary assignment with the US Military and fell in love with just how simple it is to use. Plus, $20 for lifetime updates....can't beat that!
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I quite like the simplicity of FastStone Capture as well, I miss stuff like the blur option from GreenShot (http://getgreenshot.org/) though, which is even free.
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I own a copy of SnagIt 10, which I got for free. I agree with those who said they saw little reason to upgrade to SnagIt 11 (esp. since it would cost me $25 to upgrade). Having tried SnagIt 10, I found that for most things, I much prefer the program I've been using for well over a decade: HyperSnap (http://www.hyperionics.com/index.asp). I find it faster and much easier to use the SnagIt and much less resource-heavy. I haven't tried other screen-capture programs because I've been so pleased with HyperSnap. If HyperSnap were to disappear, I still wouldn't turn to SnagIt as my everyday program. Instead, I think I'd give Screenshot Captor a serious try.
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I have version 10, but am reluctant to upgrade to 11
-Curt
Have you noticed how much was taken OUT of v.11?
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I hope potential SnagIt users will check also out my Screenshot Captor (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/screenshotcaptor/index.html) tool
-mouser
Personally, as a long-time Snagit user, I'm on 90% SC now and only 10% Snagit.
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I have version 10, but am reluctant to upgrade to 11-Curt
oops! I don't have an installer for version 10! I don't have the program installed, and TechSmith has no link for "update your version 10", only "upgrade to version 11"! Can someone give me a link to / copy of (preferably the latest) Snagit version 10 PLEASE ?
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RE Curt
http://www.techsmith.com/download/oldversions.asp
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-thank you,(x2), kunkel321 :up:
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HyperSnap (http://www.hyperionics.com/index.asp). I find it faster and much easier to use the SnagIt and much less resource-heavy. [...] I think I'd give Screenshot Captor a serious try.-cyberdiva
Which version are you using? I have a license for Hypersnap 6, but would have to pay for 7. I rarely use it because (IIRC) the license is per-installation, and I have it on one of my USB sticks. If that stick isn't plugged in, and it usually isn't, then I usually resort to SSC or WinSnap.
I'm having issues with the right balance of features and ease of use in this type of program. SSC is complicated and I can't always get it to behave.
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and I can't always get it to behave.
say what? how so?
you people are brutal! >:(
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Which version are you using? I have a license for Hypersnap 6, but would have to pay for 7. I rarely use it because (IIRC) the license is per-installation, and I have it on one of my USB sticks.-rjbull
I'm using version 7. I paid to upgrade from version 6 (which IIRC was a free upgrade from version 5). The license says it can be used by only one person, but it can be installed on two or more computers that I own, as long as I'm the only one using it. I have it on my netbook as well as my Win7 desktop. I don't have it on a USB stick, and I don't know how the licensing works with that. You might write to Greg (the developer) and ask him.
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and I can't always get it to behave.
say what? how so?
you people are brutal! >:(
-mouser
I think what he means is what is also my problem with SSC, and also the single complaint in the recent dotTech review (http://dottech.org/freeware-reviews/27176/create-and-edit-screenshots-with-feature-rich-screenshot-captor/) -- SSC is incredibly powerful and can do almost anything you may want, sometimes it just ends up being like installing an office suite to write a grocery list :-[.
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sometimes it just ends up being like installing an office suite to write a grocery list
Ouch! :(
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
(I have some very high quality grocery lists :) )
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I think we (and include myself) are to blame - we all pestered mouser for features and he gave them to us. Now we bitch about how much stuff is in there ;)
Sorry mouser!
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Ah well, everyone should find the perfect program for the way their brain works -- we all have different needs.
But if you really want a minimalist tool, try my MiniCap (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/MiniCap/index.html), the little sister to Screenshot Captor -- it basically works via commandline and does not stay resident.
Just remember that Screenshot Captor was designed to stay completely out of your way until you need it so I hope people won't be put off my all the things it can do and focus on how they can configure it to work best for them.
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I have version 10, but am reluctant to upgrade to 11
-Curt
Have you noticed how much was taken OUT of v.11?
-cranioscopical
Looking at their list, they've removed seven features and added six. No more screenshots of full-screen command-line or dirextx apps? Removed web capture? I've never used any of these myself, but they sound rather useful. Weird!
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Hi Folks,
I think I will mention that ScreenPresso looks like another nice program in the genre. I've been using it the last couple of weeks for that quick region shot. Designed for some upload capabilities. Granted, I need to go back and compare to SSC, Winsnap, etc. Anyway, for my limited use it has been nice, the only "problem" being an occasional short delay if my CPU stuff is high on the system. Maybe I should tweak it to a high priority with Process This-and-That.
Steven
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But if you really want a minimalist tool, try my MiniCap (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/MiniCap/index.html), the little sister to Screenshot Captor -- it basically works via commandline and does not stay resident.
-mouser
My favourite *easy* screen capture "programme" was minicap via FARR (as an alias). I lost track of it after my last hardware update. Was my favourite - would be nice if it came with FARR by default (dont know if that would cause other headaches). Just re-"installed" the alias, it came with an outdated minicap so I wont link to it (I replaced the minicap with up-to-date files, will see how I get on...)
Edit/ although I see there's an Alias only download that presumably works with an installed minicap
http://tuckndar.dcmembers.com/download.php?list.3
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Hypersnap 6 [...]-rjbull
I'm using version 7. [...] it can be installed on two or more computers that I own, as long as I'm the only one using it. I have it on my netbook as well as my Win7 desktop. I don't have it on a USB stick, and I don't know how the licensing works with that. You might write to Greg (the developer) and ask him.-cyberdiva
There are authors that only allow installation on one USB stick, and maybe a USB installation excludes HD. So maybe I'd better e-mail Hyperionics. Good idea, thanks.
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I need to go back and compare to SSC, Winsnap, etc.-Steven Avery
The latest WinSnap is 4.0.3. The 4 series now have basic annotating/editing features, relatively simple and easy to use, if they give you as much control as you want. But there are drawbacks. WinSnap 4 won't save each screenshot to a new file for me. This has been reported by someone else on the forum, but the author hasn't seen it himself (IIRC). And, there's no portable version. Not sure if that was simply to avoid problems with Win7 or some other reason, but if you want portable WinSnap you have to use v3, which doesn't have annotations built in.
Still, WinSnap has a generous and lifetime license.
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First, what the heck happened here :tellme:
I've had a similar issue with my own software. Users asked for lots of features, and eventually I ended up with so many it's almost absurd ;p.
In defense of SSC, I do NOT think it is complex to use. That's just me though. It's not as simple as say the built-in Snipping Tool in Vista+, but it has lots of good features, and is generally easy to use, in my opinion. That is why I still use it.
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I am sorry if my comment came across as a criticism of SSC, I think it is a very impressive program, and I have the deepest respect for all the work mouser has put into it :-*.
But SSC is an advanced tool that solves advanced problems and that means it is not simple -- I am sorry but it really isn't compared to others, and if you think it is, I am fairly certain it is because you are biased by your experience with software, your knowledge of SSC, and love for it :-[.
Let's consider first user experience for a second -- imagine you are not the super techy computer person you are, and that you need to send a screenshot of a window on your screen to tech support, so you go hunt for a screenshot tool and install SSC.
The first thing you are greeted with is this window:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
A fairly large window, where nothing below the menu has any use at the moment since you haven't taken any screenshots yet.
You may start by looking for a button to press, but the only ones are on the right instead of top or left, and none of them do anything yet.
So you have to go to the menu .. oh the menu .. 11 menus with a total of 107 :o entries. That doesn't put you off though, you aim straight for the Capture menu, and while you wonder what the heck the first entry "entire Workspace" means as you move your mouse over it, you find the entry that says something about capturing a window: "Capture Active window".
Merrily you click that, and the SSC window disappears and a screenshot is taken of what is most likely your browser or the folder where the SSC installer was saved, because it's the last window that had focus before SSC.
This gets you this window:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Frankly a very good idea -- a window showing your screenshot and asking what to do about it, some of the other tools I've tried should have had that. While you wonder a bit about the two buttons to keep the screenshot and either show it or hide it, and what thumbnail does, you click the discard button because it wasn't the right window.
:huh:
So, you realize that SSC is still running even though it just disappeared, and you find the icon in the system tray, and lets say you right-click it. 23 menu entries. What is entire workspace again? Oh well, you learned from your mistake and click the window you actually needed to take a screenshot of so that is the active window, and then you click that little arrow thing in the system tray of Windows 7 to bring up the hidden icons, right-click on the SSC icon and select "Capture Active window", and you get this:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
A screenshot of a hidden empty window associated with the system tray popup.
At this point you go back and check the menu and find the Ctrl+PrtScr shortcut and use that to finally capture the right window, you click the Send To.. button on the captured image window and select "Send via email to.." to send your screenshot to tech support.
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Right, what e-mail program is it using? What account is it going to be sent from? What the heck is %comments%? You enter the e-mail address and a suitable topic, and just before you click Send, no wait, OK, you realize there was something odd about the two TO lines up there. "leave blank if email program won't send" .. a bit cryptic perhaps .. but the first TO has (name) after it, and the second (email), so you move the email address to the second one and press OK.
No indication of success or failure, I don't know if this actually attempts to do anything, but the e-mail never arrived. From clicking the other option, "Configure SendTo List", I gather you have to setup something first?
Ok, I know I have heavily exaggerated the stupidity of the imaginary user here, and looked for the most absurd string of mishaps I could find for comic value, and for that I apologize, but compare it to what you might get with FastStone Capture:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Easy bunch of icons, click the window you want and click the capture active window button, you get a window showing your screenshot and there is an e-mail button at the top, which sends you to your normal e-mail program with the screenshot attached, and you are on your way.
Or GreenShot, which starts in the system tray, but the right-click menu lets you capture a window by showing you a list of active windows with popup thumbnails, and after you capture the right one, there is again an e-mail button that sends you to your normal e-mail program with the screenshot attached.
Now, can any of these do even a tenth of the stuff SSC can? No, SSC is advanced .. but you have to admit, it's not simple .. not if all you wanted was to send a screenshot of a window to tech support .. not unless you know how to use it already.
And if SSC attempted to be as simple as FastStone or GreenShot to use, then I am certain it would be less powerful at doing the advanced stuff it does, it's just different software for different needs -- office suites for office work, notepad for grocery lists :D.
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To be fair you don't have to wade through stuff - just press the hot key!
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Some useful suggestions about improving SC here -- i'll addess them but i'm going to split this thread off so we dont hijack the snagit thread further.
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and I can't always get it to behave.
say what? how so?
you people are brutal! >:(
-mouser
Taken to Et tu, Brute? (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=30247.msg281377#msg281377) in the SSC area. And my "problems" aren't with getting captures per se, but mainly with editing them afterwards.