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Title: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 08:12 AM
Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 has just been released (August 25th, 2008). Get it at http://circledock.wikidot.com

This is a major update and there is now a new settings panel with many options to customize.

I will be updating the Circle Dock homepage with more details about this release as I get time.

For know, I would like to point out this new feature:
Change the image used for the dock icons with the easiest method out there: Just set the program to "Icon Replacement Mode" in the right-click menu of the centre icon and you can change all the icon images by just dragging and dropping new PNG images onto them! Huge time saver when you are customizing your dock!

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Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 25, 2008, 08:59 AM
Looking really good. :up: :up:

Only problem so far is that it seems to toggle every time I go to the bottom of the screen. I've tried unticking the edge of screen boxes on the toggle menu, but they are all always ticked again when I look.Strangely nothing happens when i approach any other screen edge. I have a 2 monitor system with the 2nd monitor usually switched off. It toggles when I hit the outer edge of the workspace (ie left edge on left monitor, right edge on right etc) except when it hits the ObjectDock or RocketDock edges when they emerge and Circle Dock doesn't. Unfortunately the taskbar does not seem to have the same inhibitory effect.   All cured now  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 09:02 AM
Looking really good. :up: :up:

Only problem so far is that it seems to toggle every time I go to the bottom of the screen. I've tried unticking the edge of screen boxes on the toggle menu, but they are all always ticked again when I look. Strangely nothing happens when i approach any other screen edge.

I realized that I forgot to enable the code to turn the screen edge visiblity off in the settings panel. I have updated the Circle Dock download page with Alpha 7.1: http://circledock.wikidot.com/download-circle-dock

Just download the new Alpha and replace the CircleDock.exe with the new one.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 25, 2008, 09:08 AM
Thank you.  :Thmbsup:  ;D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 25, 2008, 10:11 AM
Great work on "Circle Dock"... Thanks! :)

The start menu shadow still on there... :-[

But I have few suggestion for future circle dock:
1.) Add a setting to lock on center screen.
2.) Better don't make the circle dock always on top.
3.) Make a add button menu to circle dock, (such as objectdock) can change the title, browse the link and change images.
4.) When mouse over on the image, better add a highlight (such as vista highlight the shortcut on desktop) or zoom in.
5.) When the circle dock is running, the dock is 20-30%transparent and than mouse over on dock back to normal.

That's all... 8)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 10:44 AM
Great work on "Circle Dock"... Thanks! :)

The start menu shadow still on there... :-[

But I have few suggestion for future circle dock:
1.) Add a setting to lock on center screen.
2.) Better don't make the circle dock always on top.
3.) Make a add button menu to circle dock, (such as objectdock) can change the title, browse the link and change images.
4.) When mouse over on the image, better add a highlight (such as vista highlight the shortcut on desktop) or zoom in.
5.) When the circle dock is running, the dock is 20-30%transparent and than mouse over on dock back to normal.

That's all... 8)

For the start menu shadows, I haven't been able to find a fix for them, but you can disable the centre button from showing the start menu in the Settings Panel under Centre Button. I'm uploaded an Alpha 7.2 to the Circle Dock website with this disabled. I must have forgot to turn it off before I uploaded it.

For (1), that will be an option in a future alpha/beta to lock the dock at a given location.

For (3), that was intended to be in Alpha 7 but I ran out of time. It's simple to do and will be added in.

For (4) and (5), I want to take some time to work out how to create smoother animations before I take those on.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 10:53 AM
I have placed a Youtube video of Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 on to the Circle Dock homepage: http://circledock.wikidot.com

It demonstrates some of the new features and I think it is pretty useful to see.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: mouser on August 25, 2008, 11:44 AM
Very cool video.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 25, 2008, 12:04 PM
I don't get the Start Menu at all. Presumably because I have Vista Start Menu installed.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Darwin on August 25, 2008, 12:17 PM
Wow! The video IS cool!  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: blahetal on August 25, 2008, 05:21 PM
hi, CD opens directories in the default browser (explorer). Id like to use another app as a directory browser (total commander in my case). So please could you add to settings some option for setting a alternative browser. Same for web pages, but I havent checked this (you use IE as a default net browser?), so I dont know if CD uses IE, but I will check it later today.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 25, 2008, 05:41 PM
With Vista Start Menu turned off, I do get the Start Menu.
But it is very tall and the top of the left column is effectively missing. Programs show up OK within window.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 05:54 PM
With Vista Start Menu turned off, I do get the Start Menu.
But it is very tall and the top of the left column is effectively missing. Programs show up OK within window.

Yep, there is an option in the Settings Panel under Centre Button to enable or disable the centre button from opening up the start menu. I still haven't been able to fix the shadow residue bug or find some open source code of a docklet that properly brings up the start menu. Anyone with a solution?

Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 25, 2008, 05:57 PM
hi, CD opens directories in the default browser (explorer). Id like to use another app as a directory browser (total commander in my case). So please could you add to settings some option for setting a alternative browser. Same for web pages, but I havent checked this (you use IE as a default net browser?), so I dont know if CD uses IE, but I will check it later today.

Hello, Circle Dock will open folders in whatever is set to open folders on your computer by default. In the next Alpha, I will add in a properties dialog for each dock icon that will allow you to change the location of the folder to open and maybe other parameters.

As for the browser, Circle Dock uses whatever is set to be the default browser on your computer. I think it should use Firefox if you have Firefox.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 12:32 AM
The Circle Dock have Label problem on there, if I change the label font everything and font shadows style, after close the circle dock and reopen again the label will set back to default settings.

Now I provide some suggestion for future circle dock:  :)
1.) Soft the icons by name on the right click.
2.) Can drag the icons to what place you want.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 12:38 AM
The Circle Dock have Label problem on there, if I change the label font everything and font shadows style, after close the circle dock and reopen again the label will set back to default settings.

Now I provide some suggestion for future circle dock:  :)
1.) Soft the icons by name on the right click.
2.) Can drag the icons to what place you want.


Thanks for spotting that Labels setting bug. I'll get that fixed and upload a new version tomorrow.

For (1) Sorting by name might be an option, but I'll leave that for sometime in the future.
For (2) Right now, you can rearrange the order of the icons by drag and dropping the icons over top of one another. I just need to animate it so that it's more intuitive.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 12:51 AM
thanks...! ;D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 12:59 AM
Circle Dock some time have some performance problem, after I drag and drop icons to rearrange, that will eating many CPU usage now, to stop this problem I just restart the circle dock.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 01:07 AM
Circle Dock some time have some performance problem, after I drag and drop icons to rearrange, that will eating many CPU usage now, to stop this problem I just restart the circle dock.

How much CPU time does it eat up? On my computer, it'll go upwards of 10% but it's only for like 1 or 2 seconds and then it drops back down to zero and there is no performance problems.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 01:22 AM
Circle Dock some time have some performance problem, after I drag and drop icons to rearrange, that will eating many CPU usage now, to stop this problem I just restart the circle dock.

How much CPU time does it eat up? On my computer, it'll go upwards of 10% but it's only for like 1 or 2 seconds and then it drops back down to zero and there is no performance problems.
-VideoInPicture (August 26, 2008, 01:07 AM)


The CPU running 50-70% and does not fall. Just at sometime not every time, when I drag and drop again and the CPU no eat again.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 01:32 AM
Circle Dock some time have some performance problem, after I drag and drop icons to rearrange, that will eating many CPU usage now, to stop this problem I just restart the circle dock.

How much CPU time does it eat up? On my computer, it'll go upwards of 10% but it's only for like 1 or 2 seconds and then it drops back down to zero and there is no performance problems.
-VideoInPicture (August 26, 2008, 01:07 AM)


The CPU running 50-70% and does not fall. Just at sometime not every time, when I drag and drop again and the CPU no eat again.

What are your computer specs? e.g: OS, cpu, amount of ram? I haven't seen Circle Dock do anything close to 50-70% on my computer. On a reorder operation, it just swaps the order of the two icons in the data of the dock and calculates their new positions and repositions the dock. There shouldn't be anything that keeps on running after the reordering. However, there could always be a non-obvious bug somewhere. I'll keep this in mind.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 01:38 AM
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ socket939
Abit AV8 Motherboard
2x512MB of Ram dual channel
GeForce 7600GS 256MB AGP8x

Hopefully is just my PC problem... ;)

I drag again all icons to rearrange and doesn't have any CPU problem again.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 26, 2008, 03:16 AM
there is an option in the Settings Panel under Centre Button to enable or disable the centre button from opening up the start menu. I still haven't been able to fix the shadow residue bug or find some open source code of a docklet that properly brings up the start menu. Anyone with a solution?
-VideoInPicture (August 25, 2008, 05:54 PM)
Shadow problem does not bother me since I normally have them turned off anyway.

Why not allow the centre button to be allocated to any keyboard key or combo? It wouldn't give the position by the dock but would increase flexibility. In my case, it would allow the Start Menu to come up even if I have it as the Vista Start Menu - and it covers teh whole screen anyway, so position is not an issue.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 03:57 PM
Yesterday I open the circle dock and just ran few hours, I doesn't do anything at circle dock but the dock automatically ran the CPU at 50%

Here is the Circle Dock running CPU 50% om my PC.
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8090/circledockcpu50zj5.th.jpg) (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=circledockcpu50zj5.jpg)

(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7469/circledocksp6.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=circledocksp6.jpg)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 26, 2008, 04:07 PM
Circle Dock open from restart a few hours ago; 64 items on it so far; most of the time CPU usage is 0%; I can get it to nearly 50% if I really spin it fast. Moving mouse over an icon brings it up to nearly 4% occasionally (ie usually much less).
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 26, 2008, 04:15 PM
Now I running Circle Dock at whole night and doesn't do anything, CPU usage just is 0%. This issue is sometime on my PC.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: blahetal on August 26, 2008, 04:29 PM
Hi, can CD be used for browsing the file system? The current version supports directories that can contain only shortcuts or other directories, right? But is it possible to have a CD directory that points somewhere to file system and when you click on it, to expand it, it will display all files and directories that are inside that directory. And again, when you click on some directory, CD will show its content. And when you click on some file, CD will open it. So my question is, can CD be used as a fast file browser :) and if not, could you add this feature :)

just something like Stack docklet (http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=46859), if you know it
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 09:07 PM
Shadow problem does not bother me since I normally have them turned off anyway.

Why not allow the centre button to be allocated to any keyboard key or combo? It wouldn't give the position by the dock but would increase flexibility. In my case, it would allow the Start Menu to come up even if I have it as the Vista Start Menu - and it covers teh whole screen anyway, so position is not an issue.

Yeah, I think that's a good idea. But maybe not execute a keyboard key combination but execute a regular file/folder like the other dock items. You can always create a little script file with your keyboard command and get the centre button to run that script. I'll add this in as an option for the Settings Panel under the Centre Button tab once I get a few other issues worked out.

Right now, I'm making it so that Circle Dock can extract all the default high resolution icons in Vista so that you don't have to replace all the icon images.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 09:10 PM
Yesterday I open the circle dock and just ran few hours, I doesn't do anything at circle dock but the dock automatically ran the CPU at 50%

Here is the Circle Dock running CPU 50% om my PC.
......
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7469/circledocksp6.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=circledocksp6.jpg)

Try downloading the latest version of the .Net Framework from Microsoft. It never hurts to have the latest version and may help the problem: http://www.microsoft.com/net/Download.aspx

Also, that's a cool looking screenshot. If you skin the taskbar, you can probably fool people into thinking you actually have Windows 7.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 26, 2008, 09:15 PM
Hi, can CD be used for browsing the file system? The current version supports directories that can contain only shortcuts or other directories, right? But is it possible to have a CD directory that points somewhere to file system and when you click on it, to expand it, it will display all files and directories that are inside that directory. And again, when you click on some directory, CD will show its content. And when you click on some file, CD will open it. So my question is, can CD be used as a fast file browser :) and if not, could you add this feature :)

just something like Stack docklet (http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=46859), if you know it

Yes, this is possible and desirable. However, I'll implement it after I get Circle Dock 0.9.2 Final. The way I'm seeing it is that clicking on a folder link in Circle Dock will load all the files in the folder into Circle Dock. Clicking on the centre button moves you back out of the folder. I'll be doing some optimization and implementing caching for some of the dock item structures so that this file browsing can be fast. This is primarily why I'm implementing it after 0.9.2 Final.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 26, 2008, 09:49 PM
Right now, I'm making it so that Circle Dock can extract all the default high resolution icons in Vista so that you don't have to replace all the icon images.
-VideoInPicture (August 26, 2008, 09:07 PM)
Of course, I have my Vista Start Menu (http://www.vistastartmenu.com/) running on Windows XP  :)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: blahetal on August 27, 2008, 04:26 AM
does CDs homepage - http://circledock.wikidot.com/ - have RSS or something (SVN browser?), so we know that a new version was released without checking the site every day? :) You released Alpha version, could incoming versions have changelog, so we know what was improved, fixed, etc. thanks :)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 27, 2008, 05:17 PM
does CDs homepage - http://circledock.wikidot.com/ - have RSS or something (SVN browser?), so we know that a new version was released without checking the site every day? :) You released Alpha version, could incoming versions have changelog, so we know what was improved, fixed, etc. thanks :)

The Circle Dock homepage doesn't have RSS or any live updater service. I'm not sure if Wikidot supports that. I'll post back if I find anything.

As for the change log, I'll create a new webpage on the Circle Dock website for the change log and will update it with each build.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: bmsilva on August 28, 2008, 04:04 AM
I've tried out this great software on Windows XP SP3, and there were no icons in the dock, is it normal?

When I have a folder on the dock and click on it, it replaces the "main dock screen", leaving my mouse in one edge of the dock. It would be nice to have the option to center the dock on the clicked folder, this way you'll be at the same distance from all the folder's shortcuts (maintaining the pie-menu philosophy).

Thanks
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 28, 2008, 04:13 AM
I've tried out this great software on Windows XP SP3, and there were no icons in the dock, is it normal?

When I have a folder on the dock and click on it, it replaces the "main dock screen", leaving my mouse in one edge of the dock. It would be nice to have the option to center the dock on the clicked folder, this way you'll be at the same distance from all the folder's shortcuts (maintaining the pie-menu philosophy).

Thanks

When you first load Circle Dock, there will be no icons on it because you have to drag and drop the files/folders on your computer onto it so that the links are created. See my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ko36ebOg9U for a demonstration and for how to change the images shown.

For the second part of your message, you have created a dock folder and I think that it's a good option to have for the dock to recenter itself around your mouse when you click on the dock folder. I'll try and implement this for Alpha 8, which should come out in a week or two.

I will be uploading a new Alpha 7.4 release tonight but you as a Windows XP user (it's mainly for Vista users), you won't see much difference. However, Circle Dock will now display thumbnail previews that maintain their aspect ratio for picture files.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 28, 2008, 07:05 AM
Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7.4 is released with these changes as noted in the new Change Log page:


Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: blahetal on August 28, 2008, 01:25 PM
Hi, could you add the following feature. imho it could be useful.
Now, if you want to hide CD you have to press some hotkey combination that is assigned to CD, but I'd like to control CD only with a mouse. So, I'd prefer if CD hides itself when I move the mouse cursor outside CD window (or in general, when CD losts focus). Of course, this would be an optional setting, otherwise it won't be able to add new items to CD by dragging. What do you think?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Linkitch on August 28, 2008, 06:49 PM
First off, very nice program, been looking for something to replace my standard dockable folders in Windows for quite some while, and this fits the bill perfectly  :)

But naturally, I'd like to see a few more options:
1) Individual size of icons, or atleast being able to make folders larger than normal icons.

2) Option to remove the default windows shortcut arrow on icons.

3) Don't know if it's possible, but being able to press the entire Icon area. Now you can't click where the icon is transparent. So on small icons you have to press quite accurately.

4) Bindable to all keys, e.g. I have a logitech keyboard with extra keys, would be nice if I could just press one of those and have the Menu pop up. Isn't it possible to add a script that recognizes they keystroke, just like games do it?

5) Option to enable, such that you start in the root of the Dock everytime you unhide it.

I had a small problem with the folder Icons, when i just dragged and dropped the icons from the default icon folder onto a folder in the dock, the center Icon would get the same icon. I did fixed it by manually though, by changing the ini file, just thought I'd mention it.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: rittwik on August 28, 2008, 11:33 PM
Hi,
I am using Circle Dock from yesterday. It is an excellent dock but the only problem I am facing is that when the Circle Dock is running, it taking almost 100% CPU for 1-2 second whenever
1> I open a window
2> I close a window
3> I navigate to a folder
in that time I dont even able to move the mouse cursor.  :(
I am using WinXP SP2 with 512RAM.
Thanks
rittwik
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 28, 2008, 11:40 PM
Hi,
I am using Circle Dock from yesterday. It is an excellent dock but the only problem I am facing is that when the Circle Dock is running, it taking almost 100% CPU for 1-2 second whenever
1> I open a window
2> I close a window
3> I navigate to a folder
in that time I dont even able to move the mouse cursor.  :(
I am using WinXP SP2 with 512RAM.
Thanks
rittwik

Are these actions when you click on the dock to execute a program or is it when you are just casually using other programs in Windows and you are getting CPU spikes? I have Circle Dock running in a virtual machine with WinXP SP2 with 128 megs of ram and it runs pretty spiffy. I don't get any 100% CPU spikes or lag with it. Perhaps provide a screenshot of your task manager when this happens?

What are your CPU specs?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: rittwik on August 29, 2008, 01:50 AM
Hi,
I am attaching a screenshot. It is happening when I am casually using other programs in Windows. And for that time I cant even move mouse cursor. The system specification from which I take the attached screenshot is
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Intel Pentium 4 2.53GHz
128MB RAM
Thanks
rittwik
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: rittwik on August 29, 2008, 01:57 AM
One more thing I just figure out....
As you can see from the screenshot... two other program is running..
RocketDock and Elegant Clock..
After I close those two programs it is not happening anymore...  :-\
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Pirim on August 29, 2008, 02:59 AM
It says “Organize the dock items using dock folders”, but I can not see, how it is supposed to be done. When I drop something on a folder, they both rearrange, as expected. Right click on folder shows only two options, “Remove” and “Change icon”, and those are of no use.

Heeeeelp, I’m stuck :)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 29, 2008, 03:21 AM
It says “Organize the dock items using dock folders”, but I can not see, how it is supposed to be done. When I drop something on a folder, they both rearrange, as expected. Right click on folder shows only two options, “Remove” and “Change icon”, and those are of no use.

Heeeeelp, I’m stuck :)

Hello. Right now, the current way to use dock folders right now is to add a dock folder and then left-click on it to open it. Then you can drag and drop icons from your computer into that dock folder. Click on the middle button to move back out of the dock folder.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 29, 2008, 03:22 AM
One more thing I just figure out....
As you can see from the screenshot... two other program is running..
RocketDock and Elegant Clock..
After I close those two programs it is not happening anymore...  :-\

With all three programs running all your computer, maybe it is over taxing the GPU with all the alpha blended graphics? Is there a way to see how much the graphics card is being used? I haven't heard of a way to do this but would probably be useful.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Calum on August 29, 2008, 03:27 AM
Just starting using CircleDock and I love it already. I use a laptop with an external screen attached, and being able to pop up CircleDock on whatever screen I happen to be looking at is very useful indeed.

It would be even more amazing for me if it always opened the window on the same screen as the CircleDock was on. Would that be possible?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 29, 2008, 03:35 AM
Just starting using CircleDock and I love it already. I use a laptop with an external screen attached, and being able to pop up CircleDock on whatever screen I happen to be looking at is very useful indeed.

It would be even more amazing for me if it always opened the window on the same screen as the CircleDock was on. Would that be possible?


I think it is doable and quite desirable, though I don't know of the code to do it off the top of my head.

I just started to use a multi-monitor setup last week and I can see how it would be useful for the opened application to be on the same screen as Circle Dock. I'll see if I can do it.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Pirim on August 29, 2008, 03:48 AM
Hello. Right now, the current way to use dock folders right now is to add a dock folder and then left-click on it to open it.
-VideoInPicture (August 29, 2008, 03:21 AM)

Thanks a lot. Left click is somewhat too obvious :D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Calum on August 29, 2008, 04:04 AM
Thanks for the snappy reply. :)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: rittwik on August 29, 2008, 04:31 AM
Yes you are right. But even if I close all the softwares, which are using layered windows, the CPU uses reduce but still I am having the mouse movement problem i.e. when I minimize a window I cant move the mouse cursor for 1/2-1 sec.

thanks
rittwik
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Dormouse on August 29, 2008, 05:31 AM
I have RocketDock and ObjectDock open (+ other progs), but not Elegant Clock and I have never had any problems with the mouse or 100% CPU (or anything like it) when opening or closing windows.

I am using WinXP SP2 with 512RAM.
Intel Pentium 4 2.53GHz
128MB RAM

But there is a big difference in system specs.  - I have a Core2Duo with 2GB memory and a relatively new (though inexpensive) graphics card with 512MB memory of its own. TBH, I don't think I'd like to try to run WinXP Pro in the RAM levels you quote at all.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on August 30, 2008, 05:41 PM
First off I want to say that I loved this program when I first found the old version, and I just wish I'd had the coding skills to contribute in some way. Thanks for such a great idea/program!

I was wondering something kind of random: would it be possible to replace the center button with a live clock? I think that would be a practical and efficient use of space in the dock, but I just don't know how feasible it is.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 30, 2008, 06:12 PM
I was wondering something kind of random: would it be possible to replace the center button with a live clock? I think that would be a practical and efficient use of space in the dock, but I just don't know how feasible it is.


It is certainly possible and most of the code to do that kind of thing is already in Circle Dock but I have to think through how to implement animations effectively and efficiently. This is the one piece of the puzzle that I haven't totally figured out. I just wish I had access to one of the mainstream dock applications out there so I can see how they animate everything simultaneously and smoothly.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 31, 2008, 01:05 AM
I found the mistake and must to improve the Circle Dock, is drag n drop icons from desktop to circle dock. The mistake is when the icons already drag n drop on circle dock and using it, after I deleted the desktop program icon, on the circle dock that icon and link will be follow disappear together cannot use and must find another way again to continue use the program.  :huh:

I already checked the "DockItemData.ini" circle dock just take the icon links at "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop\"

Better create a add icon menu to fix it at Alpha 8, circle dock icon must direct link at installed program file.  :)
If it is unfortunate deleted icon on desktop, and it won't be affect the circle dock icons.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Sekko on August 31, 2008, 06:38 AM
can someone help me i need to solve a problem with the dock.. i tried to put my docs, my computer on the dock.... but it doesn't.. and also i want the the dock to stay still in the center without disappearing from the desktop, can it be just like the Rockitdock.. Still and visible at all time.. please help me :-\
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 31, 2008, 06:59 AM
I found the mistake and must to improve the Circle Dock, is drag n drop icons from desktop to circle dock. The mistake is when the icons already drag n drop on circle dock and using it, after I deleted the desktop program icon, on the circle dock that icon and link will be follow disappear together cannot use and must find another way again to continue use the program.  :huh:

I already checked the "DockItemData.ini" circle dock just take the icon links at "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop\"

Better create a add icon menu to fix it at Alpha 8, circle dock icon must direct link at installed program file.  :)
If it is unfortunate deleted icon on desktop, and it won't be affect the circle dock icons.


Currently, Circle Dock does not track what happens to the original file/folder that was dragged and dropped onto the dock. If it gets deleted or moved, Circle Dock doesn't know. I have some file tracker code that I will implement in a future version to synchronize these actions.

I don't quite get the full picture of your problem here, though. Are you having trouble removing the icon from Circle Dock after the original file gets deleted?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 31, 2008, 07:03 AM
can someone help me i need to solve a problem with the dock.. i tried to put my docs, my computer on the dock.... but it doesn't.. and also i want the the dock to stay still in the center without disappearing from the desktop, can it be just like the Rockitdock.. Still and visible at all time.. please help me :-\

I answered a version of this question over e-mail but this phrasing is clearer. Some files and folders are virtual directories that don't have a physical path on your hard drive. Currently, Circle Dock does not support the drag and drop operations on these file types. You have to create a Windows shortcut for these directories and then drag and drop them onto Circle Dock. Circle Dock will execute the shortcuts.

For the second part about, I believe you want to disable movement of the dock and keep in on the bottom of all other windows except if it has focus. Someone on another messageboard has made this request and I'll be implementing it fully in Alpha 8 which will be out in about 1 week from today.

For now, you can disable Circle Dock from following your mouse around when you toggle the visibility by going to Settings -> Location and uncheck the follow the mouse option.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on August 31, 2008, 07:10 AM
I found the mistake and must to improve the Circle Dock, is drag n drop icons from desktop to circle dock. The mistake is when the icons already drag n drop on circle dock and using it, after I deleted the desktop program icon, on the circle dock that icon and link will be follow disappear together cannot use and must find another way again to continue use the program.  :huh:

I already checked the "DockItemData.ini" circle dock just take the icon links at "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop\"

Better create a add icon menu to fix it at Alpha 8, circle dock icon must direct link at installed program file.  :)
If it is unfortunate deleted icon on desktop, and it won't be affect the circle dock icons.


Currently, Circle Dock does not track what happens to the original file/folder that was dragged and dropped onto the dock. If it gets deleted or moved, Circle Dock doesn't know. I have some file tracker code that I will implement in a future version to synchronize these actions.

I don't quite get the full picture of your problem here, though. Are you having trouble removing the icon from Circle Dock after the original file gets deleted?
-VideoInPicture (August 31, 2008, 06:59 AM)

I have no trouble removing the icon from Circle Dock after the original file gets deleted, just the original desktop icon gets deleted and the icon from the Circle Dock cannot use continue, want find another way to drag n drop the icon again to Circle Dock.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on August 31, 2008, 07:29 AM
If it's any help, Alpha 8 will has a properties panel for each dock icon that will let you change that target location that the dock icon executes.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Syllabus on September 01, 2008, 12:09 AM
Some suggestions :P... For functionality... And beauty   :-*

1 - When you double click the middle icon, the Dock hides.  :-*
2 - I'm going to make some backgrounds with 'Double Rings', because, if you have more than one 'ring', the other icons will be 'floating?'... then... it's gonna look like this... if you like, tell me... I can do some for the Dock ;)

Png for test:> http://maxvibe.net/downloads/imagens/DoubleRing01.png
In use:> http://maxvibe.net/downloads/imagens/Dock2Rings.jpg

3 - Maybe a 'zoom' on the icon when we pass the mouse over it? I Think i have read this here yet, but... ;P

Well, that's it, for today :P... First day of use... Very nice program... very interested on helping :P

Keep the good work,

Cya,

Erich
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 12:26 AM
Some suggestions :P... For functionality... And beauty   :-*

1 - When you double click the middle icon, the Dock hides.  :-*
2 - I'm going to make some backgrounds with 'Double Rings', because, if you have more than one 'ring', the other icons will be 'floating?'... then... it's gonna look like this... if you like, tell me... I can do some for the Dock ;)

Png for test:> http://maxvibe.net/downloads/imagens/DoubleRing01.png
In use:> http://maxvibe.net/downloads/imagens/Dock2Rings.jpg

3 - Maybe a 'zoom' on the icon when we pass the mouse over it? I Think i have read this here yet, but... ;P

Well, that's it, for today :P... First day of use... Very nice program... very interested on helping :P

Keep the good work,

Cya,

Erich

Wow, those are nice rings! I'm going to try to release Alpha 8 next Sunday. Can I include them in the Alpha? I think it would also be nice to feature them on the Circle Dock website. I've got some language files and I think another set of rings someone has e-mailed me. I've been meaning to update the website these past few days but was experimenting with some code for Circle Dock that I haven't got fully working set.

For Alpha 8, I'm going to be completing some of those features listed in the current Settings Panel as well as implementing the options people have suggested on this board and through e-mails. It will also have a properties panel for each dock icon so that you can finally edit them after you have it on the dock. I'll also be adding some more shape options for people to adjust.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 12:31 AM
I could also make the background rotate with the dock. That's something that I think I could implement for Alpha 8.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: fleon on September 01, 2008, 03:57 AM
I seem to have a problem in CircleDock alpha 7.4.  I set my visibility hotkey to CTRL+ALT+Z and that used to work fine in alpha 7.2.  Now the only hotkeys I can seem to get to work are the F1-F12 keys.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: _kuzma_ on September 01, 2008, 06:16 AM
Amazing application, thank you! Great work!

I've made a translation (http://colorcontrols.narod.ru/files/cd/Russian.ini) into Russian, hope it will be useful for you.
It's a pity, that not every string is currently localizable, so some things can't be translated (grid headers in icon association setups, or credits in About window, for example), but what was possible is done.

And a little suggestion, if you don't mind :)
It would be much easier to localize this, if you will make labels and checkboxes stretchable. Screen position section, for example, takes a lot of space, but can't contain more than about 40 characters.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 07:19 AM
I seem to have a problem in CircleDock alpha 7.4.  I set my visibility hotkey to CTRL+ALT+Z and that used to work fine in alpha 7.2.  Now the only hotkeys I can seem to get to work are the F1-F12 keys.

Thanks for catching this. I'll find out what's wrong with it.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 07:24 AM
Amazing application, thank you! Great work!

I've made a translation (http://colorcontrols.narod.ru/files/cd/Russian.ini) into Russian, hope it will be useful for you.
It's a pity, that not every string is currently localizable, so some things can't be translated (grid headers in icon association setups, or credits in About window, for example), but what was possible is done.

And a little suggestion, if you don't mind :)
It would be much easier to localize this, if you will make labels and checkboxes stretchable. Screen position section, for example, takes a lot of space, but can't contain more than about 40 characters.


Thanks for the translation. I'll post up an updated version of Circle Dock with it.

Some items in the Settings Panel are not fully implemented so they are not using the language files yet. I'm working on finishing them for Alpha 8 along with other options. As for the Credits panel, I thought it would be a pain to translate all the text in the credits list so I just left it as English no matter what language file.

As for making the labels and checkboxes stretchable, I'll see if I can do that. Maybe I have to put everything inside an expanding table. I'm not sure how that would work right now but I'll check it out for Alpha 8.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on September 01, 2008, 07:48 AM
I've got a problem: when I set the keyboard hotkey to none, 0 becomes a hotkey and is rendered useless for general typing (I can use the 0 button in the numpad, but not the number row).
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 07:56 AM
I've got a problem: when I set the keyboard hotkey to none, 0 becomes a hotkey and is rendered useless for general typing (I can use the 0 button in the numpad, but not the number row).

Wow, you are right. I'll fix it or swap it out with another hotkey component. I'll get an update as soon as possible. For now, just check all the Ctrl, Alt, Shift, and Win boxes if you want "None". This will sort of simulate a "None" condition since I don't think you would be pressing down all those keys at once.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: himynameisbunny on September 01, 2008, 08:31 AM
Just discovered CircleDock through LifeHacker, I'm liking it so far but so far I think a few abilities that shouldn't be too hard to implement...

The main one is it's missing the ability to map the menu to a HELD key, i.e. instead of clicking the center mouse key to open up the menu, the user must hold the key for x amount of seconds for the menu to appear. This way users can still open up links in new tabs in IE7/Firefox/Opera without the menu appearing!  ;)

Also, something that would complement this would be the menu automatically disappearing when the button is released, with whatever application that was under the cursor being opened. For example, if the button was to be released when the cursor was over the icon for My Documents, My Documents would be opened.

If you want a perfect example of what I'm talking about, take a look at the Nintendo 64 version of Perfect Dark. The quick weapon select screen with the N64's A button is what I'm talking about, just with CircleDock and the mouse key  ;)

Not sure how hard the second one would be to implement, but I'd imagine the first request would be relatively easy.

Plus sorry about all the highlighting, wanted to make it easier to read haha  :D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on September 01, 2008, 08:52 AM

Wow, you are right. I'll fix it or swap it out with another hotkey component. I'll get an update as soon as possible. For now, just check all the Ctrl, Alt, Shift, and Win boxes if you want "None". This will sort of simulate a "None" condition since I don't think you would be pressing down all those keys at once.

Yeah, I had just set it to F24 (F13-24 don't exist on my keyboard).

Also, I was wondering if it were possible to expand the mouse-toggling options for mice with additional buttons. I have more buttons than I need outside of video games (7), so that would be nice to free up the middle mouse button for scrolling and tab-opening. There are a couple external workarounds, but if CD could natively support it that would be nice.

One other random idea (building off of the last post + from playing Crysis)...Perhaps in the future you could add the ability for two menues: one when you click the middle mouse button (or equivalently tap the hotkey), a second that pops up when you hold it down for a full second or so (perhaps make that time-length configurable). Maybe model the second menu after the one in Crysis, where it goes away when you stop holding it, except it'll fade back to the first menu or something. This might be a bit complex, but I think there might be some value in it as an add-on long in the future.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 01, 2008, 09:14 AM
Circle Dock is only able to see up to the first 5 buttons on your mouse (left, right, middle, X1, X2). Any buttons above these are non-standard and you would have to use the software provided by your mouse manufacturer to reconfigure the buttons. It's a driver/software limitation so I can't touch it.

For having a hold-delay option for the mouse buttons, I think I can do that and it would be a good idea since many people use the middle-mouse button to open tabs in Firefox. It'll have to be some time after Alpha 8 this Sunday though.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Syllabus on September 01, 2008, 09:41 AM
Wow, those are nice rings! I'm going to try to release Alpha 8 next Sunday. Can I include them in the Alpha? I think it would also be nice to feature them on the Circle Dock website. I've got some language files and I think another set of rings someone has e-mailed me. I've been meaning to update the website these past few days but was experimenting with some code for Circle Dock that I haven't got fully working set.

For Alpha 8, I'm going to be completing some of those features listed in the current Settings Panel as well as implementing the options people have suggested on this board and through e-mails. It will also have a properties panel for each dock icon so that you can finally edit them after you have it on the dock. I'll also be adding some more shape options for people to adjust.

Yeah, of course you can include this ring, i'm going to do some others with 2 rings, because many people use more than one :P. About the translations, i've mailed for you the PT-BR Translation, yesterday.

Those changes are cool, i like them... I'm just wondering what you gonna do with the middle 'icon', it has no use for single or double clicks... then... :P

Cya,

Erich

Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on September 03, 2008, 03:49 PM
 I'm not sure if this would be considered a bug, but I was playing with the settings and it turns out that if the center button's opacity is set to 0, you can't move circle dock or access the start menu (if that setting is on). Putting the opacity at 1 (or even 10) renders it nearly invisible anyway, but fixing it or having a "clear" icon might be good for those who don't want anything in the center.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 03, 2008, 04:14 PM
I'm not sure if this would be considered a bug, but I was playing with the settings and it turns out that if the center button's opacity is set to 0, you can't move circle dock or access the start menu (if that setting is on). Putting the opacity at 1 (or even 10) renders it nearly invisible anyway, but fixing it or having a "clear" icon might be good for those who don't want anything in the center.

This is intentional. An opacity of 0 means that the object is completely transparent, even to user clicks and input. An opacity of 1 means that it is totally transparent but you can still click on it. This is standard for all Windows controls and forms.

With the centre button's opacity set to 0, you can still access the settings menu and move the dock by clicking on the circular background. The settings menu is also accessible through right-clicking the tray icon.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on September 07, 2008, 02:08 PM
Question...any chance that, somewhere in the future multiple, independent (i.e. with different icons/links/etc) instances of the program could run at the same time?

(Or should I just do this by having two different CD folders in different locations under different names?)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 07, 2008, 03:01 PM
Question...any chance that, somewhere in the future multiple, independent (i.e. with different icons/links/etc) instances of the program could run at the same time?

(Or should I just do this by having two different CD folders in different locations under different names?)

Right now, Circle Dock will only allow you to run one instance of the program per computer even if you have separate folders with copies of Circle Dock. I purposely did this for 0.9.2 because I was afraid people were going to try to run multiple copies of Circle Dock from the same folder, which can work but then when you change some settings or add some icons, then things wouldn't save properly. It was just a way to try and make launching the program fool proof.

However, I do want to allow launching multiple instances of the program from separate folders. There is just one line of code I have to change that would allow this. Circle Dock 0.9.1 already allowed you to run multiple instances from separate folders. Perhaps I should just allow this for Alpha 8?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Rostam on September 07, 2008, 06:34 PM
Right now, Circle Dock will only allow you to run one instance of the program per computer even if you have separate folders with copies of Circle Dock. I purposely did this for 0.9.2 because I was afraid people were going to try to run multiple copies of Circle Dock from the same folder, which can work but then when you change some settings or add some icons, then things wouldn't save properly. It was just a way to try and make launching the program fool proof.

However, I do want to allow launching multiple instances of the program from separate folders. There is just one line of code I have to change that would allow this. Circle Dock 0.9.1 already allowed you to run multiple instances from separate folders. Perhaps I should just allow this for Alpha 8?

I see your reasons for not allowing it. The reason I bring it up is that I think it would be useful to to have one "permanent" (perhaps immovable) dock somewhere on the screen and one callable dock as well. I've found CD incredibly useful as a callable dock, and have made it a permanent addition to the way I use my computer, but there are often times when I think that the combination mentioned above would end up being even more time-efficient, and I think being able to have a second CD instance for the permanent fixture would be an elegant way of doing it.

Come to think of it, would it be possible to include in a future release a setting that renders the dock immovable?
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
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Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 10, 2008, 12:19 AM
Here's an interesting bug.  Launch the dock, then left-click and hold the mouse button down on the center icon.  While holding the mouse button down, hit your keyboard shortcut to toggle the dock.  The rest of the dock will disappear but the icon that is currently being clicked will remain.

I've also attached my auto-hotkey script to launch circledock by holding down the left mouse button followed by pressing the right one.  Note: your circledock keyboard toggle must be set to CTRL-ALT-Z for this to work.


Ok, I just fixed that bug for Alpha 8. I hope to get this out soon. It doesn't have everything I wanted done but there are enough useful features and bug fixes for a new release. I just have to get the translators to translate it to their languages.

As for your AutoHotkey script, I think quite a few people would be interested in that. I'll have to try it out!
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: fleon on September 10, 2008, 01:13 AM
Vid, you rock.  Just wanted you to know that.   

I redid my script to use the middle button + right button and like that more than the left + right button.   I'll be glad to post that up too, if anyone wants it.

Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 10, 2008, 01:32 AM
I tried your AHK script out and I'm wondering if there is a way for you to have a timer on it so that you can capture the left-mouse click so it doesn't get sent to other applications?
Title: Remove context menu?
Post by: modemasters on September 10, 2008, 02:03 AM
Hi just downloaded Circle Dock and i am stoked!!! Great program.

I was in the process of creating something very very similar (although not as cool) to aid co-workers on our IT Helpdesk.

I have one quick question, is there a way i can set the dock up and then remove the right-click menu so my staff can't modify it once I have it customized?

Thx once again, an invaluable tool  :D
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 10, 2008, 01:18 PM
I have one quick question, is there a way i can set the dock up and then remove the right-click menu so my staff can't modify it once I have it customized?

Thx once again, an invaluable tool  :D

There is no option to do this through the program, but you could always go into the source code and comment out the lines that say this.ContextMenu = ..... and then there won't be any more right-click menus, even in the tray icon. I recommend waiting until this Sunday to do it because that is when Alpha 8 is definitively going to be released with some bug fixes and some new features.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: modemasters on September 11, 2008, 08:26 PM
Great! That's good news.

Could you tell me what would be a good compiler to use? (Since i'm not a programmer as such)

Thx again :D

Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 11, 2008, 11:03 PM
Great! That's good news.

Could you tell me what would be a good compiler to use? (Since i'm not a programmer as such)

Thx again :D



Circle Dock is written using http://www.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/

To take away the context menus, you will have to search for the word ContextMenu through the project and comment out the code that deals with it. You will need to do this for MainForm.Designer.cs and TransparentObject.cs. The other parts of the code don't need to be touched. For TransparentObject.cs, you will also need to look under the ...MouseUp(...) type functions and comment out the code relating the context menus.

If you are willing to wait, I could probably do it for you sometime after this Sunday's official release of Alpha 8.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: modemasters on September 11, 2008, 11:34 PM
Hi again.

I worked out that you used C# after the last post (sorry!). I did comment out the items in MainForm.designer.cs and TransparentObject.cs and a couple of others i came across and this did fix the context menu appearing on the menu itself, however the tray icon still had it's context menu. I'll keep playing around, but since i am not proficient in C# i don't wan't to muck around too much in case i break something :D

I will eagerly await Sunday's new build, if you could assist me with the source after that i will be very appreciative!

Keep up the awesome work.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: One Lump Sum on September 11, 2008, 11:49 PM
V.I.P., I have to say this is a wonderful program, and a great alternative to ObjectDock.  I recently d/l a circle dock for DesktopX, but it was pretty much featureless.  Just launched like 6 pre picked files, and no rotation.  I give this  :up:  :up: !!!  I can't stop customizing it, I'm working on a few Vista Glass Style rings, but I have 2 questions.  One is, what is the purpose of the skin files with the backgrounds and seperators??  Maybe I just missed a feature somewhere in the menu.  The second is, I like the Idea that someone posted about the clock as a center button/image.  I put it around my sidebar clock and positioned it in the middle of my desktop, set the center to totally opaque, and disabled the mouse point location, it looks really cool, would like it to be permanently located in the center of my desktop, maybe with a hot key to call it on top of windows when I need it.  Any chance of getting some docklets later on down the line like OD??  It would be cool to use the center for a multiple docklet, everytime you click it, it will toggle between clock, calendar/ date, weather, maybe even a cpu meter??  This is going to be a huge, helpful, and useful app, I believe the possibilities are pretty much endless right now, just a matter of time.  Thanx, and I am glad to be using this, and will be directing many ppl here to try it out.  LoL, Damn, sorry for such a long and wordy comment, I'm hopped up on caffiene right now.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 11, 2008, 11:52 PM
Hi again.

I worked out that you used C# after the last post (sorry!). I did comment out the items in MainForm.designer.cs and TransparentObject.cs and a couple of others i came across and this did fix the context menu appearing on the menu itself, however the tray icon still had it's context menu. I'll keep playing around, but since i am not proficient in C# i don't wan't to muck around too much in case i break something :D

I will eagerly await Sunday's new build, if you could assist me with the source after that i will be very appreciative!

Keep up the awesome work.

To get rid of the context menu for the tray icon, comment out this.MainFormTrayIcon.ContextMenuStrip = this.MainFormContextMenuStrip; in MainForm.Designer.cs.

I'll make up a sort of "kiosk" version of Circle Dock after Sunday and post it on the Circle Dock website.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 12, 2008, 12:01 AM
V.I.P., I have to say this is a wonderful program, and a great alternative to ObjectDock.  I recently d/l a circle dock for DesktopX, but it was pretty much featureless.  Just launched like 6 pre picked files, and no rotation.  I give this  :up:  :up: !!!  I can't stop customizing it, I'm working on a few Vista Glass Style rings, but I have 2 questions.  One is, what is the purpose of the skin files with the backgrounds and seperators??  Maybe I just missed a feature somewhere in the menu.  The second is, I like the Idea that someone posted about the clock as a center button/image.  I put it around my sidebar clock and positioned it in the middle of my desktop, set the center to totally opaque, and disabled the mouse point location, it looks really cool, would like it to be permanently located in the center of my desktop, maybe with a hot key to call it on top of windows when I need it.  Any chance of getting some docklets later on down the line like OD??  It would be cool to use the center for a multiple docklet, everytime you click it, it will toggle between clock, calendar/ date, weather, maybe even a cpu meter??  This is going to be a huge, helpful, and useful app, I believe the possibilities are pretty much endless right now, just a matter of time.  Thanx, and I am glad to be using this, and will be directing many ppl here to try it out.  LoL, Damn, sorry for such a long and wordy comment, I'm hopped up on caffiene right now.

Thanks for trying Circle Dock out. If you want to permanently locate Circle Dock at one spot, you should get Alpha 8 (to be officially released this Sunday): http://circledock.wikidot.com/local--files/download-circle-dock/CircleDock0.9.2Alpha8DebugAndTranslate.zip

One of the new features is an option to lock the position of the dock to one spot. This is found under Settings -> Location. You may also want to set Circle Dock to "Always on Bottom" under Settings -> General.

I included the "Skins" folder because in the near future, I want to add a straight line option to the Shapes settings panel and it would use these skins for the background just like Rocket Dock and Object Dock. They are not used right now but it is better I include them ahead of time so they are there when I want to deploy a new feature.

After I finished version 0.9.2, the first thing I will look at is adding support for docklets, either the Object Dock variety or if I have to, a version of my own. However, I definitely prefer to reuse existing docklets if at all possible. I hope I can work out how Object Dock handles it's docklets.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: One Lump Sum on September 12, 2008, 12:42 AM
Awesome, thanx for the fast reply, I was playing around with DesktopX and CD and thought I'd throw up a couple screenshots of what could possibly be some great concepts.  This is just CD Overlayed on a couple widgets I have.  I hope you like them!!  Also, I dunno if this is what you mean, but I would like the dock to always be on the desktop, and not disappear when I open a file.  It would be set to "always on bottom" but maybe use the "CTRL + 0" hot keys to temporarily call it to top to open a file without closing windows, and have it go back to bottom once file is opened.  Well, here are my concepts.....

Calendar:<br>
<img src="http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">

Weather:<br>
<img src="http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/cd2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">

Clock:<br>
<img src="http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">

CPU Meter:<br>
<img src="http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: One Lump Sum on September 12, 2008, 12:45 AM
Huh, I dunno why those didn't work, well if you're interested, here are the links.

Calendar: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD1.jpg

Weather: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/cd2.jpg

Clock:  http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD4.jpg

CPU Meter:  http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/ShugaBoogah/CD3.jpg
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: modemasters on September 12, 2008, 02:08 AM
To get rid of the context menu for the tray icon, comment out this.MainFormTrayIcon.ContextMenuStrip = this.MainFormContextMenuStrip; in MainForm.Designer.cs.

I'll make up a sort of "kiosk" version of Circle Dock after Sunday and post it on the Circle Dock website.

Legendary! Can't wait :)

Just one more quick question tho... I'm going to be running CD from a folder on a server that starts up with Windows for my staff, I am going to try locking down the Settings folder that contains the .ini's to prevent further "hacking" of the dock, will this have any adverse affects? I guess the users will still be able to drag'n'drop onto the dock and that those changes will persist until the program is closed, but will then return to normal on next run?

Cheers again, excellent program!!!
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on September 13, 2008, 05:21 PM
I try to create another new background for Circle Dock, my target is want create a background is true transparent like the glass(can see through), but I don't know how to do it...

And here is my Circle Dock Background Style:

Gears of War Logo Style
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6011/gearsofwarcircledock01ga4.th.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gearsofwarcircledock01ga4.jpg)

Dual Ring Style
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2686/dualringcircledockxh6.th.jpg) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualringcircledockxh6.jpg)

So very ordinary.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 14, 2008, 12:36 AM
I try to create another new background for Circle Dock, my target is want create a background is true transparent like the glass(can see through), but I don't know how to do it...

And here is my Circle Dock Background Style:

Gears of War Logo Style
......

Dual Ring Style
.....

So very ordinary.

Wow, those are cool backgrounds! I especially like the Dual Ring version.

Do you want to include those for Alpha 8 tomorrow? I could feature them on the Circle Dock homepage. Just send me an e-mail at [email protected]. Sorry that I can't help you with the glass type effects. I'm not an advanced Photoshop user so I can't create those kind of graphics.

Eric Wong
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 14, 2008, 12:40 AM
Just one more quick question tho... I'm going to be running CD from a folder on a server that starts up with Windows for my staff, I am going to try locking down the Settings folder that contains the .ini's to prevent further "hacking" of the dock, will this have any adverse affects? I guess the users will still be able to drag'n'drop onto the dock and that those changes will persist until the program is closed, but will then return to normal on next run?

Cheers again, excellent program!!!

With the kiosk version of Circle Dock, it would only need to read from the .ini files or any other files for that matter so you can safely lock down the entire Circle Dock folder. You users won't be able to add or remove any of the items with the "Circle Dock Kiosk.exe". They will be able to launch it, use it to launch items and dock folders but everything else will be locked out including the settings panels.
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: modemasters on September 14, 2008, 05:28 PM
Wow, those are cool backgrounds! I especially like the Dual Ring version.

Do you want to include those for Alpha 8 tomorrow? I could feature them on the Circle Dock homepage. Just send me an e-mail at [email protected]. Sorry that I can't help you with the glass type effects. I'm not an advanced Photoshop user so I can't create those kind of graphics.

Eric Wong

I think you should definitely have a section for user submitted backgrounds/art etc. Custom backgrounds seem to be popular and not everyone is a Photoshop king :P I'm going to try make some new ones later today !
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Boba-Fett on September 14, 2008, 05:35 PM
I try to create another new background for Circle Dock, my target is want create a background is true transparent like the glass(can see through), but I don't know how to do it...

And here is my Circle Dock Background Style:

Gears of War Logo Style
......

Dual Ring Style
.....

So very ordinary.

Wow, those are cool backgrounds! I especially like the Dual Ring version.

Do you want to include those for Alpha 8 tomorrow? I could feature them on the Circle Dock homepage. Just send me an e-mail at [email protected]. Sorry that I can't help you with the glass type effects. I'm not an advanced Photoshop user so I can't create those kind of graphics.

Eric Wong

Hello Eric, this new Dual Ring is already sent to your Gmail account and please to check it.

Here is New Dual Ring:
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4997/newdualringcircledockiq8.th.jpg) (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newdualringcircledockiq8.jpg)

Boba-Fett
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: Curt on September 20, 2008, 04:43 AM
Congratulations on today's review at http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/
 :up:
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: klausa on September 20, 2008, 05:40 PM
How would one go about uninstalling this program?  I can't find it in my add/delete new programs in my computer.  Also, it goes away when I click on an icon.  How would I get it back up???
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: mouser on September 20, 2008, 05:52 PM
Circle Dock Mentioned on FreewareGenius today:

http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/


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 (http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/)
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: p3lb0x on September 20, 2008, 05:57 PM
Congratulations on today's review at http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/
 :up:

Circle Dock Mentioned on FreewareGenius today:

http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/

 (see attachment in previous post (http://www.freewaregenius.com/2008/09/20/circle-dock-a-beautiful-highly-customizable-launcher/)) (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=14556.msg131063#msg131063)

Nice one mouser -_-
Title: Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 7 Discussion
Post by: VideoInPicture on September 22, 2008, 02:03 PM
How would one go about uninstalling this program?  I can't find it in my add/delete new programs in my computer.  Also, it goes away when I click on an icon.  How would I get it back up???

You can uninstall Circle Dock by simply deleting it's folder. It doesn't write to the registry or anything. To toggle the visibility of the dock, click your middle mouse button, move your mouse to the edge of the screen, or press the visibility hotkey (F1 by default). This can be changed in the settings panel if you right-click the tray icon for Circle Dock.