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Title: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Mattphoes on March 12, 2011, 07:18 PM
I am looking for a decent text expander solution. So far, I tried Direct Access and Breevy but both appear to be too buggy/slow and limited to be really useful.

Do you have any suggestion?

My requirements are:

+ Storing boilerplate templates and call them either by text shortcuts or hotkeys

+ Templates may include formatted text

+ Should work with Firefox and Open Office
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: lanux128 on March 12, 2011, 08:17 PM
you may want to take a look at Auspex (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25182.0). :)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: barney on March 12, 2011, 08:38 PM
I've been using ShortKeys (http://www.shortkeys.com/) for several years.  The free version is limited to, I think, fifteen (15) replacement sets, but the paid version accommodates many more.

The replacement text is limited to 3,000 characters, so that may not work for you.  I've never had need to try truly formatted text, so cannot speak to that.  It's a Windows TSR, so it works in almost any application.

You might give it a try.

You might also take a look at timns' Auspex (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25315.msg232476#msg232476).  I don't know the limits, just started playing with it, but since timns is an active DC local, he'd prolly accommodate reasonable enhancement suggestions if Auspex doesn't currently perform to your needs.

Edit:  I see lanux128 got in while I was typing  :P.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: lanux128 on March 12, 2011, 08:52 PM
You might also take a look at timns' Auspex (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25315.msg232476#msg232476).  I don't know the limits, just started playing with it, but since timns is an active DC local, he'd prolly accommodate reasonable enhancement suggestions if Auspex doesn't currently perform to your needs.

yes, that's one of the main reason i suggested Auspex as [user]timns[/user] is quite active and responsive to user suggestions. :up:
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 13, 2011, 11:31 AM
There has been much discussion of text expanders on DC already.  I listed some of the other expanders, and links to DC thread that mention them, here: Re: Auspex (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25182.msg231405#msg231405)

List is not exhaustive!
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 13, 2011, 11:35 AM
I think you should have a look at Auspex  :Thmbsup: and rjbull's thread named about a half dozen more (much to my surprise at the time, but that was me jumping in with both feet before researching what else was out there)

Yes, Auspex is still in development, and yes I would love to have more suggestions for what to add, and of course how to make it better at what it does already.

And to the folks in the thread above, I say thank you for the recommendation.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Mattphoes on March 13, 2011, 06:40 PM
I gave Auspex a quick try but it seems to be way too buggy and early to be really useful at the present stage, compared to all the well established programs that already exist for years.

I appreciate your enthusiam to hunt bugs as an entertaining hobby but right now I have things to do and no time for fiddling.

I am now evaluating Phrase Express (http://www.phraseexpress.com) and it seems to be an awesome program. It seems to be very well designed, established and I just scratched its surface.

It's free for home use. You might want to check it out.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 13, 2011, 08:50 PM
I appreciate your enthusiam to hunt bugs as an entertaining hobby but right now I have things to do and no time for fiddling.

?????  :huh:

Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: cranioscopical on March 13, 2011, 09:48 PM
I appreciate your enthusiam to hunt bugs as an entertaining hobby but right now I have things to do and no time for fiddling.
It's always interesting to hear a new voice, one can learn a lot. I like to think that you'll find something that is appropriate.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: cmpm on March 13, 2011, 09:52 PM
Pretty short search for a simple program and settle for Phrase Express, which is one of many awesome programs that can be found just from simply searching and viewing the first couple of pages of hits.

Auspex is in development and awaiting input from users to make it better, as this site is so good at.

Phrase Express is below the level of Auspex in light user specific input for features, as well as user custom settings.
And I found Phrase Express to be more intrusive and overkill then helpful.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Mattphoes on March 13, 2011, 10:36 PM
Is there anything particular where Auspex outperforms the others? Phrase Express and Auto-Hotkey seem to deliver everything I could imagine. ...So far I can see.

I don't understand the comment about "intrusiveness". A text replacement util does what you feed what it should do.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: cmpm on March 14, 2011, 03:12 AM
You must use the commercial version. I'm guessing.
The personal version prompts to upgrade to commercial when used for personal use.

http://www.autotext-software.com/

Is a free, no pop-up or prompts to upgrade to commercial, fine program.

Phrase Express and Auto-Hotkey seem to deliver everything I could imagine.

That is part of the problem with Phrase Express imo, phrases for everything.
Just let me type and I know when I get phrase insertion prompts, because I put them there.
I don't need a large database of phrases to scroll through.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 14, 2011, 06:45 AM
The personal version prompts to upgrade to commercial when used for personal use.

I think they include an algorithm that tries to decide whether you're using it for personal or commercial purposes.  I can see why, but it must be very hard to make an accurate decision.  E.g., if I were, as a private person, writing a letter to a utility company, how would an algorithm decide.

http://www.autotext-software.com/

Is a free, no pop-up or prompts to upgrade to commercial, fine program.

A freeware by the Phrase Express people, when Phrase Express is already free for personal use?  Getting very complicated!

I currently use Typing Assistant (http://www.sumitsoft.com/), and like it, but you have to press the number of the phrase that you want in the pop-up list.  I asked them to remove that and allow "instant" text input, but they said no, as then users might be more likely to type the wrong thing by accident.  I see where they're coming from, but I disagree.  Having to use an explicit trigger spoils the flow.  And after all, what's typed is the user's responsibility.  I would prefer to go back to Instant Text (http://www.textware.com/index.htm) which doesn't enforce that, but would have to pay $99 to go from version V to the version VII that works properly on Vista Home Premium with UAC On (full new price is $189).  At present I'm resisting!
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Mattphoes on March 14, 2011, 08:56 AM
I use the personal free PhraseExpress Edition and never got such notification. It seem to has all features as the commercial version.

Typing Assistant, however, is not free for any use.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: cmpm on March 14, 2011, 09:35 AM
If it's an important document I would proof read it anyway.
With or without spell and phrase help.
I use tinySpell and it is very good for spell checking.

Most anything I type in has it's own spell checker anyway.

I've seen good and bad reports on Phrase Express reviews.
From errors and too much resources used, to a great program.
My experience with it was rejected and uninstalled.
If yours is better, good for you.

Are you working for Phrase Express or it's parent company Mattphoes?
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 14, 2011, 10:19 AM
Typing Assistant, however, is not free for any use.

That's true, but neither, as far as I am aware, are Breevy (http://www.16software.com/breevy/) or Direct Access (http://www.nagarsoft.com/) that you mentioned in your OP.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 14, 2011, 10:24 AM
If it's an important document I would proof read it anyway.
With or without spell and phrase help.

I have problems proof reading something I've written myself because I read what I think should be there, rather that what's really there.  I use text expanders more to shorten typing by using expansion on long words and phrases, rather than to ensure correct spelling.  I generally check everything above trivial size with the spelling checker built into whatever editor or word processor.

I've wondered, though, about something I read years ago.  On Linux, you tend to have one spell checker that's called by every program that needs it.  On Windows, every program has its own.  How many spell checkers do you need on one PC?  How much space are their dictionaries wasting?
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 14, 2011, 10:49 AM
I'd sure like to hear more about the Auspex bugs so I can fix them for people who do use it...  :)

Please feel free to comment here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25937.0) so they don't clutter up this thread.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 14, 2011, 11:03 AM
^@timns- that would be for your "entertaining hobby" you have so much "enthusiasm" for and which deserves to be applauded?  :-\  ;)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: kip on March 14, 2011, 11:17 AM
One I recommend quite often is Yadabyte Subtext, quick, easy, free and portable if required

Yadabyte Subtext (http://www.yadabyte.com/Yadabyte_Portables.php)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 14, 2011, 11:22 AM
If you want formatted text:

-----------PCMag.com Utility Library Update ------------

NEW RELEASE: RoboType 4
RoboType accelerates your typing by providing a means to
associate boilerplate text, form letters, signatures, and
other reusable text, html, and images with short abbreviations.

Released: February 17, 2011
Version: 4.0

Learn more and download
http://enews.pcmag.com/u.d?kYGkeLaNnsSrT78NN1yk=440

RoboType 4: Type in Shorthand
By Tim Smith

only $7.97
No additional charge for Utility Library subscribers
Subscribe now just $19.97
Version: 4.1.8
Updated: March 9, 2011

Supported Platforms: Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, & 7 (32 & 64-bit)

Are you a tech support specialist who has to type the same responses to questions over and over? Or perhaps you're a lawyer or business professional typing the same name throughout a document? You can always copy and paste, but that's clumsy and slow. RoboType solved this problem when it was first released in 1997 by providing a means to associate boilerplate text, form letters, signatures, and other reusable text with short abbreviations. When you typed the abbreviations, RoboType replaced them with the expanded text.

Robotype 4 continues to build on the original's strong foundation but adds many new features including:
Support for rich text, html, and images as replacement snippets
• The ability to replace date phrases with dates in multiple formats. For example, if you type "now," Robotype will offer to replace the text with the current date
• A new popup menu for the user to select replacement data if the same abbreviation has been assigned to multiple snippets
• A Random password generator. Type "password" and a dialog box for generating a password will appear
• The ability to launch programs based on an abbreviation. For example, if you're typing in notepad and want to add two numbers just type "calc" and Windows calculator will launch
• A new user interface featuring a tree and groups of abbreviations
• Compatible with Windows XP, Vista, and 7

Other than formatted text, the features aren't particularly exciting  <shrug>.  Not free, but very cheap.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 14, 2011, 11:22 AM
^@timns- that would be for your "entertaining hobby" you have so much "enthusiasm" for and which deserves to be applauded?  :-\  ;)

Hooray, someone noticed  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 14, 2011, 11:25 AM
One I recommend quite often is Yadabyte Subtext

But very basic, and I once had it deleted from my USB stick as a false positive by an overenthusiastic college AV system.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: wraith808 on March 14, 2011, 01:42 PM
Are you working for Phrase Express or it's parent company Mattphoes?

This.  And take a look at the posts of the OP. 

Yeah...  though not conclusive by any means, it does seem a bit suspicious...
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Mattphoes on March 14, 2011, 03:00 PM
No I am not. Would I've asked then? ;-)

I will Robotype a try but it looks pretty basic.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: caveatrob on March 16, 2011, 02:07 PM
No love for Breevy? I've been using it quite a bit. Let me know if there's something I"m missing out on with other programs...
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Renji on March 16, 2011, 02:23 PM
There's another one called PhraseExpress.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: fenixproductions on March 16, 2011, 03:42 PM
Darn, PE again? Looks like spambots love it.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: TucknDar on March 17, 2011, 07:18 AM
No love for Breevy? I've been using it quite a bit. Let me know if there's something I"m missing out on with other programs...
I'm using Breevy as well. Excellent program and a responsive author. Not as advanced as PE I suppose, but has the features I need.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Renji on March 17, 2011, 08:09 AM
Darn, PE again? Looks like spambots love it.
-fenixproductions (March 16, 2011, 03:42 PM)

Had used it sometime back, so came to my mind. Not using PE or any other such software now!
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: cmpm on March 17, 2011, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the input Renji and Mattphoes,
but there is a lot of info here about PE.
Just use the search on this forum and find 2 pages of hits.

I would like to know more about Breevy and Auspex, and I follow their development.
Although these programs help more with people who type a lot, imo.
Which I do sometimes, and it would help if we could see these others as well.
Personally I don't always say the same thing the same way,
sort of boring...
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 17, 2011, 03:54 PM
Hi, Michael here from PhraseExpress.

I think they include an algorithm that tries to decide whether you're using it for personal or commercial purposes.  I can see why, but it must be very hard to make an accurate decision.

We used to give away free licenses to users who provide evidence for any claim that our commercial use detection would be malfunctioning. So far, we never had to issue a license for that reason.


Phrase Express is below the level of Auspex in light user specific input for features, as well as user custom settings.

We listen to user feedback with utmost care and would be sorry if you got a another impression.

However, PhraseExpress matured over 12 years and already include so many features driven by user demand that it becomes incrementally difficult to add new things as we want to be focussed. Nonetheless, we try our best to stay to be the innovator (http://new.phraseexpress.com) in our niche.

Just curious, as you compare PhraseExpress to Auspex. Is there any feature in Auspex, that you miss (http://www.phraseexpress.com/features.htm) in PhraseExpress?


And I found Phrase Express to be more intrusive and overkill then helpful.

As always, it depends on what you make out of a tool. If you turn on all the "knobs", it does a lot of things. PhraseExpress is no exception.

But, PhraseExpress has an Easy Mode and an Expert Mode (http://manual.phraseexpress.com#expert). If you feel overwhelmed by the complexity, the Easy mode is your blue pill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluepill).
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on March 17, 2011, 04:13 PM
I think they include an algorithm that tries to decide whether you're using it for personal or commercial purposes.  I can see why, but it must be very hard to make an accurate decision.

We used to give away free licenses to users who provide evidence for any claim that our commercial use detection would be malfunctioning. So far, we never had to issue a license for that reason.
-BartelsMedia (March 17, 2011, 03:54 PM)

That's quite an achievement.  I used to write scripts that corrected for the multitude of various ways users could enter the names of products, and was constantly amazed at the variations they came up with...

You omitted:
Text snippets can be HTML-, RTF- and Microsoft Word text formatted and contain .JPG, .PNG. .BMP und .TIFF bitmap images.
  as the OP wanted to have formatted text, which, as far as I'm aware, not all text expanders offer.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 17, 2011, 04:24 PM
That's why you have RegEx... you can create a nice pattern match to catch a huge variation of names in one hit.

e.g. to{1,2}mor{1,2}ow
Catches: tomorow, tommorow, tommorrow in one elegant expression
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Ath on March 17, 2011, 04:28 PM
in one elegant expression
Agreed, but the pessimistic still complaint that: You have a problem, you apply/throw a regex at it, then you have 2 problems...
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 17, 2011, 04:31 PM
in one elegant expression
Agreed, but the pessimistic still complaint that: You have a problem, you apply/throw a regex at it, then you have 2 problems...

Not following you. We use RegEx to solve problems. Agreed bad regexes could cause problems, but so do a million other things... bad drivers, bad coders, out-of-date chicken...

Now, I agree that a lot of people are scared of RegEx, but it's like a lot of things: take a bit of time to learn it and it'll repay you many times over  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Ath on March 17, 2011, 05:44 PM
I agree on regexes being an elegant solution to many problems, that would otherwise could be difficult to solve.

ppl scared of any regex, posted their opinion, that I quoted (without the quotes, sorry) above, that's the pessimistic group. I'm not in the pessimistic group...
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: timns on March 17, 2011, 07:23 PM
I agree on regexes being an elegant solution to many problems, that would otherwise could be difficult to solve.

ppl scared of any regex, posted their opinion, that I quoted (without the quotes, sorry) above, that's the pessimistic group. I'm not in the pessimistic group...

It did occur to me afterward that it didn't really sound like your normal 'tone'  :)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: HOTGA on March 17, 2011, 11:34 PM
I am a long time user and fan of Phrase Express. It is a wonderful application and I highly recommend its use to everyone. I have tried Breevy which I like too, but Phrase Express offers more in-depth functionality. I have used the professional version of Phrase Express since version 6 (its now up to version eight) and I love it. I consider myself a accomplished user of the software and I have taken time to test its more in-depth features, and yet I discover new uses for it everyday. I recommend those who had issues with earlier versions try the latest pro version and really see what the software has to offer. I would be happy to answer any questions anyone has with respect to Phrase Express. I refuse to use a computer where it is not running!
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 18, 2011, 04:16 AM
RegEx is a very good example.

PhraseExpress has RegEx support for a long time. The "Inline Calc" feature of PhraseExpress is based on it, for example:

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However, as a few already stated, RegEx is a wild beast. It can do amazing things but at the same time is far too complex for average non-programmer users. Mistakes can easily render your keyboard useless (while the Text Expander is running).

You can offer such features if you are offering a "Take it or leave it" freeware that has no support obligations. Timns seems to provide nice support for you folks here but we as company would drown by support load within minutes if we would release such feature in our mainstream application, used by many corporations who rely on a stable software that must be bullet-proof.

It is a coincidence that we just discussed here whether to offer the RegEx feature in PhraseExpress for those who ask for. It would look like shown here: http://screencast.com/t/W0aVDibk5C

Perhaps, we could request the user to solve a short RegEx quizz before the feature can be enabled. Somehow like skill-checking captcha (http://www.labnol.org/internet/favorites/the-most-complex-captcha-in-the-world/244/).

What do you think?
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 18, 2011, 08:19 AM
Perhaps, we could request the user to solve a short RegEx quizz before the feature can be enabled. Somehow like skill-checking captcha.

I think that's a clever and very innovative approach.

I also think the average corporate user would feel highly insulted should they fail to pass it. They're a competitive bunch and have a tendency to look over their shoulders a lot.

I think it would be smarter and more politically expedient to either offer two separate versions or offer regex as an installable (and removable) option. Ideally with its own installer to cut down on the number of 'casual' installs.

Just my 2¢  :)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 18, 2011, 08:30 AM
Oops, I forgot the smilie on my previous suggestion. It is not meant too serious.

However, the more I think about it, the more appealing the idea get. Normal users probably have no interest in the feature anyway. And if they can't answer the easy RegEx quizz, then the feature really is not useful for them. It would break more than it would help.

By the way, RegEx already works for every user but just the pre-defined "special functions (http://www.phraseexpress.com/phrases.php)" provided by us. Some sort of read-only phrases.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: barney on March 18, 2011, 08:37 AM
I think it would be smarter and more politically expedient to either offer two separate versions or offer regex as an installable (and removable) option. Ideally with its own installer to cut down on the number of 'casual' installs.
+1

Set it as a plug-in module, installation optional.  That way, there's separate development of two (2) components, neither of which really rely upon the other (well, OK, the plug-in depends upon the main module, but development of the plug-in doesn't  ;D).
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 18, 2011, 08:40 AM
Generally, it is a good idea to offer extra features as plug-ins or additonal product variations.

But users are already confused by our three editions (Easy, Standard, Pro) and we would like to avoid adding complexity in this area.

And Regex is totally integrated and fits so smartly into the general product architecture that it would be unnecessaryy overhead to make a plugin out of it.

We will probably add the feature via a command-line parameter.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 18, 2011, 09:10 AM

But users are already confused by our three editions (Easy, Standard, Pro) and we would like to avoid adding complexity in this area.
-BartelsMedia (March 18, 2011, 08:40 AM)

Suggest you talk to your sales department then.  ;D

Offering different 'editions' (i.e. feature sets) is a "pay to play" price tier strategy. Different 'editions' exist for marketing reasons more than anything else. 

If they didn't you could just create one edition, and turn on various 'extended' feature sets using a basic/intermediate/advanced switch.

If your customers are confused, there's a simple solution - stop confusing them.

Just come out and say you have versions of your program that pack additional capabilities and which are available at additional purchase cost. Don't be coy with "more powerful" and "professional version" blather. Just spell it out: additional features are available (to those who may need them) at additional cost.

I think most customers (or at least the type you want) would appreciate the candor.  :)

Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: Josh on March 18, 2011, 09:15 AM
+1 to 40hz comments. I absolutely despise the use of "edition" terminology when it is not appropriate.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: caveatrob on March 18, 2011, 12:08 PM
Would love to see a comparison of Breevy and PhraseExpress.

Breevy continually adds new things-  did you know that you can make a folder full of abbreviations pop up as a context menu in any window for you to choose an abbreviation?
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 18, 2011, 12:18 PM
did you know that you can make a folder full of abbreviations pop up as a context menu in any window for you to choose an abbreviation?

PhraseExpress does this since 2006:



It also has some unique extra features:


Here is a list of features in PhraseExpress (http://www.phraseexpress.com/features.htm) for comparison.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 18, 2011, 10:35 PM
Is it just me, or is some of this thread starting to read like an ad?  ;)

Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: barney on March 18, 2011, 11:10 PM
Is it just me, or is some of this thread starting to read like an ad?  ;)

Been that way for quite a few posts, methinks  :'( :P.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: mouser on March 18, 2011, 11:44 PM
Is it just me, or is some of this thread starting to read like an ad?


Seems to me that if there is a thread about "what's the best tool for.. ?" then the author of one of these tools should feel comfortable explaining why they think theirs is best  :)  Something that might seem like an "advertisement" if posted out of context seems very appropriate on such a thread.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: barney on March 19, 2011, 02:08 AM
Something that might seem like an "advertisement" if posted out of context seems very appropriate on such a thread.

Yep, yer right ... but that doesn't make it seem less like advertising  :D.  Nothing wrong with that, and nothing wrong with developer(s) comments as to what the software can do, especially in contrast to other mentioned software.  After all, it was developed to fill a perceived need, although some of us need help with that perception.

For instance, I personally was unaware of much of the capability explained because I'd never had a need for that capability.  I'm now better informed, and know where to look should such a need arise.  Methinks the advertising element arises from:
The back-and-forth of such an exchange can look more like advertising, without that truly being the intent, than elucidation.  That doesn't mean anyone wants the interchange to stop, but we do tend to tag things with our own labels  :P.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: mouser on March 19, 2011, 02:24 AM
As a software developer this is an issue that i've had some experience with.. I remember when i first started DC trying to post on a couple of forums about my software and being told to stop "spamming".  And yet if someone else posted about my software it was "thank you for letting us know about some nice new software."   Although I would never do it, it made me realize why so many companies hire people to post about their software and pretend they are just normal users.

So one of the principles we've tried to follow on DC is to say that authors and companies are welcome to post about their software here, as long as they do so in the appropriate place and state their affiliations clearly.

It's also why i think it's important that we welcome companies to post about their software when we have a discussion like "what's the best tool for xxx" or when there is a thread about their software, or in the "announce your software" section.  If it's a place where we would welcome a normal user to tell us why they would use program X, then it should be ok for a company person or the author to tell us why they would, without having to pretend they are not associated with the company.

The only thing we require is disclosure and that they post as humans, rather than copying+pasting some block of text from an advert.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: 40hz on March 19, 2011, 05:21 AM
Is it just me, or is some of this thread starting to read like an ad?


Seems to me that if there is a thread about "what's the best tool for.. ?" then the author of one of these tools should feel comfortable explaining why they think theirs is best  :)  Something that might seem like an "advertisement" if posted out of context seems very appropriate on such a thread.

I did not mean to imply they were spamming. (Note the presence of the wink-bixie  ;) at the end of my original comment.) 

I'll try to make my attempts at joking around a little more obvious next time. :)


Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: mouser on March 19, 2011, 05:30 AM
40hz you didn't say anything inappropriate -- i just thought it might be a good opportunity for me to advocate for why i think people should feel comfortable posting on these kinds of threads recommending their own products, since i know some might be unsure whether they should do so.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on March 19, 2011, 08:24 AM
I do not hide my identity as coming from PhraseExpress. Of course, I answer questions about our software if they arise.

For this purpose I have configured Google Alerts that notifies me if our product name is mentioned on any social media platform. It is because, you are important to us.

I am particularly eager to clarify things if any user (regardless if authentic or fake) praises a feature of a competitor that even originally came from us.

I hope that you at least don't believe that we stage users who apparently seem to have registered here for the sole purpose to bring up a competitor name?

In this context, you have to be aware, that competitors have set Google Alerts for our product as well. ;-)
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: mahesh2k on March 19, 2011, 10:20 AM
I gave Auspex a quick try but it seems to be way too buggy and early to be really useful at the present stage, compared to all the well established programs that already exist for years.

I appreciate your enthusiam to hunt bugs as an entertaining hobby but right now I have things to do and no time for fiddling.

I am now evaluating Phrase Express (http://www.phraseexpress.com) and it seems to be an awesome program. It seems to be very well designed, established and I just scratched its surface.

It's free for home use. You might want to check it out.

Oh i get it now, who's OP here.  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: steeladept on March 25, 2011, 08:30 AM
I do not hide my identity as coming from PhraseExpress. Of course, I answer questions about our software if they arise.

For this purpose I have configured Google Alerts that notifies me if our product name is mentioned on any social media platform. It is because, you are important to us.

I am particularly eager to clarify things if any user (regardless if authentic or fake) praises a feature of a competitor that even originally came from us.

I hope that you at least don't believe that we stage users who apparently seem to have registered here for the sole purpose to bring up a competitor name?

In this context, you have to be aware, that competitors have set Google Alerts for our product as well. ;-)
-BartelsMedia (March 19, 2011, 08:24 AM)
I appreciate the sensitivity to the statements above and believe me when I state I do not believe ANYONE here believed you did try to hide your identity. You have been here off and on for quite some time and have been quite helpful anytime anyone has questions or problems.  DC is a particularly helpful place to get results on any software because so many different people here use so much different software in so many different ways.  It only helps improve the site when developers, marketers, or others directly related to the software and it's development join the site and contribute as well.

I don't know mouser personally, but I do know how he reacts to many issues that arise on the site and I have never, never, seen him accuse anyone of anything abusive.  The most I have seen posted is a firm but polite request about affiliation or request to steer clear of specific topics as appropriate given the terms of participation.  Given that, and what I read from him above, I can only say I have no doubt he was stating that to the readers in general to remind them of the policies of this forum and why it is okay - actually preferred - that you participate here in the way you are. 

I just hope that is how you took it and if not, then I hope this explains how it reads (at least one way it reads) to a third party.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: elvisbrown on March 29, 2011, 11:58 PM
I'm a coder and my typing is pathetic to be honest....I use Phrase Express for simple typing corrections like chnage to change and I have many inbuily typing defects all of which get corrected on the fly as I type badly. Brilliant.

But where it exceeds all the others that I tried is that I can type in "slabentry" without the quotes and have all this code automagically appear:

Dim session As New NotesSession
Dim db As NotesDatabase
Set db = session.CurrentDatabase
Dim view As NotesView
Set view = db.getView("XXXXXXXX")
view.AutoUpdate = False
Dim vc As NotesViewEntryCollection
Set vc = view.AllEntries
Dim entry As NotesViewEntry
Dim doc As NotesDocument
Set entry = vc.GetFirstEntry()
While not entry is nothing
Set doc = entry.Document
<some code here please>
Set entry = vc.GetNextEntry(entry)
Wend


and this just one of many bits of pre-configured keywords I have put in.....it makes the boilerplate bits of coding immediate without annoying typos and errors.

When first installed it can seem a bit overdone and daunting but you can delete out all the crap stuff that is in there by default.

Highly recommended. BTW I've not been nagged about commercial use.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: HankFriedman on May 14, 2011, 10:14 AM
I installed Phrase Express but could not figure out how to customize it to autocorrect my spelling errors.

It has built-in correction dictionaries but didn't make it obvious at all how to build one's own.

I uninstalled it right away.

Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: HankFriedman on May 14, 2011, 10:16 AM
By the way, the Yadabyte Subtext program seemed simple and fine, until I rebooted and it lost all of my newly entered abbreviations and corrections :(
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: rjbull on May 14, 2011, 04:11 PM
I installed Phrase Express but could not figure out how to customize it to autocorrect my spelling errors.
It has built-in correction dictionaries but didn't make it obvious at all how to build one's own.
-HankFriedman (May 14, 2011, 10:14 AM)

They'd probably point you to a video on their Web site.   They have quite a lot, though they don't make them obviously visible from the front page.  The support person, who posts here as BartelsMedia, has posted links to them.  You could also ask in their forums - but don't dare compare with another product, or even suggest any other product exists.  Typing Assistant that I currently use makes it easy to get at auto-correction.  It looks like it can do bulk imports too, though I've not tried that.  But, it's payware for all uses, though modestly priced.
Title: Re: Best Text Expander software for Windows
Post by: bmms on May 15, 2011, 04:31 AM
I installed Phrase Express but could not figure out how to customize it to autocorrect my spelling errors.
-HankFriedman (May 14, 2011, 10:14 AM)

With PhraseExpress, you actually don't need to manually create custom AutoCorrect entries at all. PhraseExpress automatically detects frequently individual misspellings automatically for you (http://www.phraseexpress.com/video/pex8_typolearn/pex8_typolearn.html) and store them without any manual interaction.

Adding your own AutoCorrect entry is as easy as creating a regular new phrase: Enter the correct spelling as a phrase and enter the misspelling as an Autotext. Step-by-step video tutorial: http://screencast.com/t/haRhziIi

PhraseExpress can also import Microsoft Word AutoCorrect entries for use in any program (http://www.phraseexpress.com/video/import_autocorrect/import_autocorrect.html).

You can even import AutoCorrect list from web pages like http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:List_of_common_misspellings with the batch import feature (http://www.phraseexpress.com/video/pex8_batchimport/pex8_batchimport.html).

All that free-of-charge for personal use.

Hope, this helps.