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Title: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: superboyac on March 02, 2011, 04:10 PM
A lot of my favorite programs have the ability to export xml files.  These same programs also have very poor printing capabilities.  So, somehow, I need to be able to print GOOD-LOOKING tables from the information in these programs.  I tried dealing with Excel's xml capabilities, but they are very convoluted.  I need a way to take an EXISTING xml file, and quickly be able to print it in a nice looking report.  I don't want to manipulate it in Excel for 15 minutes every time I want to print something.  Is there anything like this?

What I'm looking for is something that will allow me to map the xml elements, as far as what I want shown and what I don't want shown.  I don't want everything shown, usually there's way too much data there.  So I need to be able to hide things. Then, I need to be able to format everything: headers, fonts, background color, etc.  Then, when I do all this once, i need to be able to save it, and every other time I use an export from teh same program, i want it to spit out the nice looking things I set up.

Anything?
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: timns on March 02, 2011, 07:03 PM
I have that feeling of deja vu... there was a similar thread recently and I think we mentioned such things as XSLT (http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/)

I bet there's a few folks who could give you a hand with setting up a stylesheet, and once it's all set up, re-use and customisation should be a piece of cake. While falling off a log.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Renegade on March 02, 2011, 07:46 PM
I have that feeling of deja vu... there was a similar thread recently and I think we mentioned such things as XSLT (http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/)

I bet there's a few folks who could give you a hand with setting up a stylesheet, and once it's all set up, re-use and customisation should be a piece of cake. While falling off a log.

I don't know of any good, easy tools for XSLT development.

If the XML files are all the same type, then once you create the XSLT, you're good to go forever. However, if they are all different types, then you will need 1 XLST for each type.

But do check for XSL authoring tools as there might be something out there. I've done it by hand in the past, and don't know of any user-friendly authoring tools, but it doesn't mean they aren't out there.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Ath on March 03, 2011, 01:39 AM
There's the input description: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/fo.html

And a graphical authoring tool: http://foa.sourceforge.net/
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: barney on March 04, 2011, 11:36 PM
Tried FOA - similar need to superboyac's - but it opens only its own XML files or those created by WH2FO.

The FO stuff might work, but there's no time to learn a new scripting (?) language  :huh:.

Still searching ...  :(.

Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: timns on March 05, 2011, 10:43 AM
I have a copy of Stylus Studio and would be willing to write some simple stylesheets for you guys.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: superboyac on March 05, 2011, 06:43 PM
I have a copy of Stylus Studio and would be willing to write some simple stylesheets for you guys.
Could you post a screenshot or pdf of a sample report that you have created using a stylesheet?  I have never seen an end-result with xml.  Everyone always talks about about what you can do, but I've never seen anyone do it and print it out.  So I'd be really interested in something where you've taken an xml file, styled it using Stlyus Studio, and now have a nice-looking report.  Thanks, I'd really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: timns on March 05, 2011, 07:28 PM
Ok well it's not very 'pretty' because this is a bit of a dry old manifest, but basically we go from this:

Input XML
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

through the stylesheet, to create this
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

At this point you have complete control over the layout, since the stylesheet is turning your XML into HTML. In otherwords, you're telling the stylesheet what to look for in the XML, and then how to present it using HTML commands.

So it appears nicely in your browser and from there you can print, save etc.

Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: jasonvogel on April 06, 2011, 05:14 PM
I use the FREE XML Pad (http://www.wmhelp.com/xmlpad3.htm).  I used to use XML Spy (expensive, but awesome).

Jason
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: ewemoa on April 06, 2011, 06:34 PM
Don't know if anything from the following thread is of any use, but FWIW:

https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=22617.0 (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=22617.0)
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Ath on April 07, 2011, 01:27 AM
I use the FREE XML Pad (http://www.wmhelp.com/xmlpad3.htm). 

Hm, the site seems to have either passed away, or it's been DoCo'd (like 'slashdotted' :D)
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Armando on April 07, 2011, 09:47 AM
XML pad is good, but a bit buggy IMO. And... yes, the site seems to be gone.

After trying quite a few I settled on XML marker (http://symbolclick.com/) for simple tasks. It's fast and efficient in RAM and CPU resources.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Armando on April 07, 2011, 09:50 AM
I should mention that XML marker has some limitations (http://symbolclick.com/limitations_-_please_read.htm), and that's when I use xml pad.

[Edit : application is still in active development though and some of the limitations -- like no Unicode support -- should be addressed, according to the developer.]
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: sajman99 on April 07, 2011, 06:39 PM
I use the FREE XML Pad (http://www.wmhelp.com/xmlpad3.htm). 

Hm, the site seems to have either passed away, or it's been DoCo'd (like 'slashdotted' :D)

No luck here either. I figured I would take a look because XML Marker hasn't been updated in quite a while (2004).
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Armando on April 07, 2011, 09:10 PM
XML Marker hasn't been updated in quite a while (2004).

The developper seems activethough...  There (http://symbolclick.com/products.htm) he says

Project status:
It has been more 6 years(!) since the last release, but development has not stopped. XML Marker 2.0 should be out soon and will include the following features:

    * Read XML files in Unicode using UTF 8 and UTF 16 encoding.
    * Edit json files.
    * Tree will not collapse when editing the text.
    * Bookmarks
    * Path selector
    * Faster and uses less memory

When he says "last version" I believe he refers to version 1.1 from November 2004. So... v.2 should be around the corner... :) (I'm optimistic...)
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: marcopolo2 on April 21, 2011, 08:07 AM
I have that feeling of deja vu... there was a similar thread recently and I think we mentioned such things as XSLT (http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/)

I bet there's a few folks who could give you a hand with setting up a stylesheet, and once it's all set up, re-use and customisation should be a piece of cake. While falling off a log.

I don't know of any good, easy tools for XSLT development.

There's a useful XSL link on the W3 site here http://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/

However to answer the question of a  good XSL tool it depends on your platform, some tools are linux, some are windows and some can do both like oxygen and xmlblueprint I think. Where I work we use Liquid XML Editor (http://www.liquid-technologies.com/xml-editor.aspx), but it is commercial and you might be better off with a free one if you are only doing basic stuff.

If the XML files are all the same type, then once you create the XSLT, you're good to go forever. However, if they are all different types, then you will need 1 XLST for each type.

But do check for XSL authoring tools as there might be something out there. I've done it by hand in the past, and don't know of any user-friendly authoring tools, but it doesn't mean they aren't out there.
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Armando on August 20, 2011, 08:09 PM
[WARNING: OLD THREAD -- I thought it would be better to post these news here though instead of creating a new thread.]

Xml marker v.2 now available ! (http://symbolclick.com/xmlmarker2_whats_new.htm)

It's greater and it's still free !  :Thmbsup:

[OOOPS... No it isn't I'll check the lincense more closely, and come back...  :(

It has almost all features I need for my everyday work with XML. It's light and speedy too.


New features:

    
Title: Re: Any XML gui tools out there?
Post by: Armando on August 20, 2011, 08:20 PM
Ah well... It was a bit too good to be true...  :D
Still a great little app though. But now 125$ (https://symbolclick.com/mc2/cart.php)... Which is okay if you use it for work, for sure.

Basically license says that :

If you obtained a valid license key from Symbol Click Software or an authorized reseller, your name is the same as the Licensed To field, then you may install and use the software in the specified number of users.

Each user is either (but not both):

    One to five computers used primarily by a single person.
    A single computer used non-simultaneously by multiple people while physically present at the computer.