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Randall Kennedy asks, What Would Life Be Like Without Windows? (http://www.pcworld.com/article/187703/what_would_life_be_like_without_windows.html)
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What would life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and brightest among us.... Such thinking is naïve, at best. Rather than freeing IT, the demise of Microsoft would plunge the industry into an apocalyptic tailspin of biblical proportions.
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I don't think I could live without Windows. I really like looking outside and stuff while I am on my computer.
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No pane, no gain!
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Do I detect a hint of Jalousie...
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This is clearly going to be a paneful discussion.
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Do I detect a hint of Jalousie...
-Stoic Joker
Nice one, it can be your claim to frame.
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Do I detect a hint of Jalousie...
-Stoic Joker
Nice one, it can be your claim to frame.
-cranioscopical
I vie for the glass ceiling, yet he's sill on top.
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yawn... one look and already I'm glazing over...
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I'm no great admirer of yours, more a fan light!
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I actually don't like Windows. It's just that I have been using it for 14 years now. I could also go well with Linux, but I would miss a lot of things.
At least it is not by Apple.
:D
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No pane, no gain!
-cranioscopical
Esp. if it's Aero Glass.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-computer001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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At least it is not by Apple.
-Tuxman
take one tablet and call us in the morning...
I'm no great admirer of yours, more a fan light!
-cranioscopical
I'm afraid I'm going to have to grille you for that...
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Esp. if it's Aero Glass.
-MilesAhead
I hear you, plain and clear.
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to grille you for that...
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Uh, oh! It's curtains for me.
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to grille you for that...
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Uh, oh! It's curtains for me.
-cranioscopical
draped in glory, as you wished...
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...not so great for claustrofobically challenged?
...similar to living in (most) server rooms? Or submarine for that matter.
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draped in glory, as you wished...
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I'm flagging, must be my advanced years...
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draped in glory, as you wished...
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I'm flagging, must be my advanced years...
-cranioscopical
none the less, we salute you...
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...not so great for claustrofobically challenged?
...similar to living in (most) server rooms? Or submarine for that matter.
-Shades
Any porthole in a storm.
(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Transports/ship-032.gif)
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none the less, we salute you...
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Of quartz you do.
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Esp. if it's Aero Glass.
-MilesAhead
I hear you, plain and clear.
-cranioscopical
Hmmmmmmm they should have called that speed indicator number Windex but it's already taken. They didn't want to be framed for trade mark infringement.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-green/greensmilies-004.gif) (http://www.greensmilies.com)
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Hmmmmmmm they should have called that speed indicator number Windex but it's already taken. They didn't want to be framed for trade mark infringement.
-MilesAhead
;D
There's lintel chance of that.
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There's lintel chance of that.
These puns are so bad I think I'll sash my wrists.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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These puns are so bad I think I'll sash my wrists.
-MilesAhead
Apply some window dressing to the wound!
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;D
There's lintel chance of that.
-cranioscopical
I love it! It works on a couple of levels ;D
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with the amount of users apple and linux OS's are generating i think it will be curtains for windows soon 8)
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Stephen: People have been saying what you are since Windows 95. Windows is far from dead and in fact Windows 7 actually brought quite a few users back after the Vista debacle. You have to remember, the number of users for Apples OSX and Linux variants can really only go up. When you have the market share that MS has with Windows, it is not that you want it to keep going up, its a matter of maintenance. One thing stats don't account for is how many users own multiple systems in their homes, how many of these homes are DEDICATED *nix/Apple users, and how many of these homes use one platform just because they have to or have no need for something else? Saying Windows is going to meet its demise soon is like calling the end of days which so many tabloids try and do with "Nostradomous" predictions. Apple and Linux can gain all they want but until they offer the majority what they require, Windows will still have its place as it does what a good majority of the population wants.
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I know...it was just a random pun rofl, people will never fully migrate to any other OS than Windows :(
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curtains for windows soon
-Stephen66515
Move in to the light! Fiat Linux.
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On a serious note, this article basically echoes a lot of thoughts I've always had. The dreams of getting rid of MS are fantastic in concept, at least some parts, but there are a *lot* of problems to solve to get there. And if you do solve all those problems, it's hard to imagine not basically just becoming another MS-like entity. What it comes down to is that there is tremendous advantage in standardization mixed with accountability (even if that standard is only "de facto" and proprietary, and the accountability costs money). It's hard for the open source community, or even any myriad of smaller companies to offer that. Still, I'm quite curious to see how we'll move beyond MS. I mean it has to happen eventually, right? 100, 1000 years from now, will we be booting up Windows 500 in our space rockets (or our braaaains)? It's hard to imagine...
- Oshyan
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What it comes down to is that there is tremendous advantage in standardization mixed with accountability
-JavaJones
Sure beats the days of fiddling around with, say, CP/M to configure the floppy drives to read a different dialect of CP/M, with a custom driver for every printer which costs the earth because the market segment is so small etc., etc.
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What it comes down to is that there is tremendous advantage in standardization mixed with accountability (even if that standard is only "de facto" and proprietary, and the accountability costs money). It's hard for the open source community, or even any myriad of smaller companies to offer that. Still, I'm quite curious to see how we'll move beyond MS. - Oshyan -JavaJones
But that's been the very problem: standardization is fine as long as it is Microsoft's version of it. Web standards have been wildly successful despite Microsoft, who has fought them every step of the way (the reluctance to move off of IE6 is just one example). Because Microsoft wouldn't work with the Open Document Format, it created its own XML-based format and then spent two years politicizing it into a "standard" that's hardly found anywhere online or outside its suite. Microsoft has two choices in the next decade: (1) move to a *nix-based OS, or (2) become even more closed, and start developing proprietary hardware to run its software as Apple has done. It's no secret they have to drop the legacy baggage at some point.
Unless you're running MS Office, there are no compelling reasons to use the Windows OS. You can make the same arguments for running proprietary OSX. Even under Linux, I can run any version of Office if I had to. Everything else can be had via virtualization or is not needed, e.g., myriad security products. Assuming I'm not running MS Office, why pay for OS? One reason: because you want to.
As long as you're aware of the strings attached, that's perfectly fine.
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Unless you're running MS Office, there are no compelling reasons to use the Windows OS.
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-zridling
Wrong... I can think of *several* compelling reasons other than the MS Office suite to use the Windows OS. They might not be compelling to *you*, but that makes them no less compelling in my eyes.
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Unless you're running MS Office, there are no compelling reasons to use the Windows OS.
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-zridling
Wrong... I can think of *several* compelling reasons other than the MS Office suite to use the Windows OS. They might not be compelling to *you*, but that makes them no less compelling in my eyes.
-wraith808
Heartily agreed. :D
- Oshyan