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Title: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 09:25 PM
As of June 13, 2008 the Latest versions of FARR include the GTDTiddlyWikiPlus Alias Pack.

I couldn't resist adding this just because it's such a fun example of using html view with FARR.

Trigger the alias by typing: gwp


From the readme in the alias pack i made:
This alias simply executes the GTDTiddlyWikiPlus page as downloaded from
 http://www.checkettsweb.com/tw/gtd_tiddlywiki.htm

To use this from FARR just type: gwp [THEN HIT ENTER]

//---------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Your edits are saved inside the file gtd_tiddlywiki.htm which is
 stored in this directory.  Deleting this file will delete all of your
 edits(!).  You can move this file if you like, just change the alias
 to point to the new location.

//---------------------------------------------------------------------------

The version included in this version is from 6/13/08,
 which is built from TiddlyWiki 2.1.3.

If you wish to reset your gtd wiki to blank and erase all of your
 edits, you can replace the file gtd_tiddlywiki.htm with the blank
 one in OriginalBlankFile, or better yet download the latest
 blank file from the website above, direct link:
  http://checkettsweb.com/tw/gtd_tiddlywiki.htm

//---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 09:26 PM
I'd appreciate any feedback regarding whether it works for people.
I had to turn off skinning for now on all forms but main form. I may turn it back on for options forms later.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 09:28 PM
Tips for using GTDTiddlyWiki Plus:

Should we make an alias pack for normal TiddlyWiki?
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 09:41 PM
I've reuploaded with an added alias pack for the standard TiddlyWiki:

Trigger the alias by typing: tiwi

From Readme:
This alias simply executes the TiddlyWiki page as downloaded from
 http://tiddlywiki.com/

To use this from FARR just type: tiwi [THEN HIT ENTER]

//---------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Your edits are saved inside the file MyTiddlyWiki.htm which is
 stored in this directory.  Deleting this file will delete all of your
 edits(!).  You can move this file if you like, just change the alias
 to point to the new location.

//---------------------------------------------------------------------------

The version included in this version is from 6/13/08,
 which is  TiddlyWiki 2.4.0.

If you wish to reset your gtd wiki to blank and erase all of your
 edits, you can replace the file gtd_tiddlywiki.htm with the blank
 one in OriginalBlankFile, or better yet download the latest
 blank file from the website above, direct link:
  http://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 13, 2008, 09:49 PM
Mouser thanks for adding these. I think these are tremendous additions and I am sure many people will find it useful. I will check it out asap
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 13, 2008, 09:51 PM
I am having a font and size problem. Here is the screenshot

(http://stashbox.org/138434/greenshot_2008-06-13_21-51-31.png)
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 09:59 PM
and exit farr and start your normal Internet Explorer and open the file.. see if the fonts are still small and if so enlarge them from internet explorer to how you want them.  then exit internet explorer and try farr again.

by the way, does anyone else have this problem?
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 13, 2008, 10:10 PM
Ie shows them fine. I am under 64bit and I tried both 64 and 32bit versions of Ie. Both tiddlywikis suffer from the same issue btw.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 10:14 PM
if you load other websites inside farr is the font size ok?
if load load other local web pages inside farr is the font size ok?
are you using vista? what version of IE?
anyone else have this problem?
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 13, 2008, 10:18 PM
Other websites and local files do not show this bad of a problem. They may look tiny smaller but they seem normal.

I am under 64bit xp, IE v7
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 10:23 PM
on a separate matter.. it's pretty clear we need some way of saving FARR htmlview window sizes -- it's annoying for the window to be too small to display these pages properly.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 13, 2008, 10:27 PM
I already asked for that also and wanted that to be part of alias definition(ie fixed size in alias definition)

Btw as far as tiddlywiki goes, it could be best at some point if we can make a modified version that is optimized for Farr. I have no javascript or html skills so I will passon this one but maybe someone with skills could do it in short amount of time.

Again thanks for including this.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 10:30 PM
Just thought of a potential problem with this alias pack -- it will OVERWRITE your wiki file with new installs. Not good.
So please just use this for testing until I figure out a good fix for that.

I have added a new subdirectory to the FARR install: MyLocalData\
This will be the recommended location for all FARR alias packs (and maybe plugin options files) to store user-specific data files.
The files here will NOT be overwritten on program update but can be initialized if they dont exist (which is what was needed to make tiddlywiki work).
In the future I will add the easy ability for users to move this directory anywhere they want on their pc.

So, you can now safely use the tiddlywiki aliases without worrying about our files being erased on update.
And you can add the FARR directory MyLocalData\ to your backup jobs if you want to backup the files here (note: this may not work with VISTA yet).
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 13, 2008, 10:31 PM
Well before we start trying to make custom versions we have to figure out why this is happening to you and not me and it shouldnt be happening to anyone, without any changes.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: s.newave on June 14, 2008, 12:06 AM
on a separate matter.. it's pretty clear we need some way of saving FARR htmlview window sizes -- it's annoying for the window to be too small to display these pages properly.
-mouser (June 13, 2008, 10:23 PM)

+10. It is quickly becoming apparent how powerful this html viewer is/will be and this type of functionality is definitely needed. I vote that the alias/plugin should have the ability to set the size of the window although just as the with all other plugins the user should be able to overide this setting. As you suggested earlier the ability to set the sizing for a specific url would be even better :D

If going down this path i would suggest some type of html options page where the user could save a specific regex url mask with the following options:

-window size & position
-keyboard focus
-pre-processing file (file/script to send html to which would in turn return html that would be displayed. greasemonkey style)
-post processing file (file/script to run after launching url)

More options could be added/removed as needed along with a set of default standards.


Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: nitrix-ud on June 14, 2008, 01:05 AM
just a reminder, i know from experience that some script need to be run on a web server
this wiki seems to work nicely, but let's not forget that some could need a web server therefore instead of having :
htmlviewurl file://%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/webtool
we would have :
htmlviewurl http://localhost/webtool
and a web server running  :'(

@mouser,
i'm really happy that you are starting to enjoy the html viewer a lot
(no, it is not just an new view for plugins  :P)

+1, for specifying windows size in alias, regex mask and what not

but

+10 for address bar (this is an absolute must)

+10 to be able to close FARR, then activate it again and switch to htmlviewurl with the last url re-loaded (very useful for GTDs, quick look up, etc.)
to keep things simple, and as a first step why not have a special variable in FARR : %lasturl%, so one could quickly build an alias :
dosearch htmlviewurl %lasturl% (we could then associate it with a FARR hotkey or in FARR toolbar)

+9 for mini-toolbarr (with those 2 special buttons : copy url to search box, open url in default browser)

idea : at some point people will not change font-size in browser anymore, because everything graphic does not change
there is much better way now with zooming (firefox has it, internet explorer has it, ...) BTW very useful when surfing on a full-hd screen...
maybe it is possible to have a special command in an alias to tell FARR to auto-zoom the webpage width to FARR width ? (by increments specified by the user ?)
of course once again this has to be optionnal, i personnaly won't use it (since i'm in full hd and my FARR windows is around 900px wide;)) but i think it could be a cool feature

Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on June 14, 2008, 01:24 AM
I think we are going to need a mini toolbar/addressbar for html mode.  the only question is whether to let it be toggled on/off and how.  We can start collecting features you think should be on the toolbar now (addressbar for url, open in external browser, save current url in alias, font size maybe).

The idea of a command and hotkey to switch into html view and load last page is a good one.

I guess i probably need to add ability to set view size in alias as well.


I am still troubled by the idea that we are getting dangerously near the precipice of making FARR a "browser with some extras" which is not what we want.  We want FARR to be a launcher with some extras including a mini browser for specific tasks.  If people want to use a nice big browser, they should use their browser.  We don't want FARR to try to be competing with real browsers in terms of surfing features.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 14, 2008, 01:39 AM
I hope that Farr  wont have much memory footprint after all these new features. I really like new features but I guess speed of Farr should be the most ultimate priority.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: nitrix-ud on June 14, 2008, 02:17 AM
I am still troubled by the idea that we are getting dangerously near the precipice of making FARR a "browser with some extras" which is not what we want.  We want FARR to be a launcher with some extras including a mini browser for specific tasks.  If people want to use a nice big browser, they should use their browser.  We don't want FARR to try to be competing with real browsers in terms of surfing features.

100% agree, i suggested the idea of an html view for FARR just after you made the showfile command
precisely to use quick and dirty tools, to look up words, to create opera speed-dialog startup page, to use single-page wiki, etc.

FARR should not become a full-blown browser...
i personnaly don't see too much benefit in having regex pattern to know whether one url should be launch internaly or in the default browser...
i don't see benefit in choosing font-size, ...
i don't think implementing any kind of popup killer, ad-killer, ... is a good idea
if you do it without adding to much memory footprint then fine, i will not complain as long as every new feature can be disabled...

FARR is a launcher and should stay a launcher... you want to google something, fine you can do it in the internal browser then somehow you fire the results in you full-blown browser
opera speed-dial like startup page would act as an advanced menu, definition lookup is ultra quick...
this is very fast browsing...
that's really the way i see it, FARR will be used for specific browsing tasks that takes less than a minute
of course some will use it for more than a minute, but somehow i think features to be implemented should be chosen with that 1-minute browsing rule in mind

Having said that and bearing the one-minute rule in mind :
address bar is a must
so are some buttons to "use" the current url
and %lasturl% is a must too ;)

i already suggested the following but i do think this is important (for keeping FARR a launcher)
there should be a way to click on a link to that it would open your default browser AND closes FARR (so that it really acts as a launcher)
i would suggest shift+click (since it is the default hotkey to open a new tab/window in major browsers)
i noticed shift+click was working great when having ie7 as the default browser, but nowadays i'm using firefox3 as my default browser.. and shift+click opens a new ie7 window each time i do it  :huh:


the only question is whether to let it be toggled on/off and how
i suggest :
in options you could set default behaviour : either on or off
through alias or plugin you could force one or the other (htmlviewurltoolbar and htmlviewurlnotoolbar, or switches)
when in the internal browser, we could toggle it using a function key (or maybe a button in status bar if it's possible)

[bug report]

pb of focusing
if you do:
igo www.donationcoder.com
then neither the search box nor the html view is focused

however if you do :
igo www.google.com
it works ok (there is a javascript script to focus the search box...so the htmlview is focused)


Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: TucknDar on June 14, 2008, 02:30 AM
I hope that Farr  wont have much memory footprint after all these new features. I really like new features but I guess speed of Farr should be the most ultimate priority.
-kartal (June 14, 2008, 01:39 AM)
Agreed. Haven't noticed any problems so far, I should add, but this is an important point.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on June 14, 2008, 07:08 PM
It looks like standard IE zoom in and out shortcuts are not working in internal viewer. Maybe if we can have them enabled I might be able to adjust font sizes?
 :-\
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: Nod5 on June 15, 2008, 10:18 AM
Some thoughts:

There's a very real risk that some users will also want more and more advanced browser related tools, plugins, aliases and add-ons (ad-blockers and so on). It could go downhill to bloat city from there...

I say stick to the core functionality of doing small tasks as quickly and as easily as possible. Primarily to ultraquickly find and operate on files, folders, programs, bookmarks, processes and system settings. Html View Mode adds the functionality of quickly displaying small webpages or local html documents. But that is in line with the core when used for small, clean pages displayed briefly (to check email, rss, tv-schedule, todo and so on). Not so for other heavy-duty, full screen and long time browsing tasks.

To get more specific, here are some possible features for Html View Mode:
1. adress field
2. toolbar buttons: back, forward, home...
3. various browser add-ons
4. full blown adblocker
5. greasemonkey/proxomitron style page manipulation tools
6. alias specific window position, size and focus options
7. tabbed browsing

I'm for 5 & 6 since they can enhance the core by simplifying pages before display and make interaction between Html View Mode and FARR easier through farr:// links.

I'm unsure if 1-4 and 7 would be needed for anything that a regular browser isn't already better suited for. Can you guys give some good examples for why they would be good in FARR? (I can see the point of a %lasturl% variable though)

Another thought: the Html View Mode risks shifting FARR from a very keyboard centric program (which is a great thing when it comes to speed) to something that may require both mouse and keyboard. Adding toolbars could increase that shift even more. The Html View Mode would "fit in" more with the rest of FARR if keyboard navigation for it could be enhanced somehow. For example, when navigating webpage elements with Tab/shift-tab can the selected element be more strongly marked visually through a larger and distinctly colored border? Can FARR take control of the up and down keys for the webpage so that page elements can be navigated that way too? Can FARR similarly control the number keys to click the 1st, 2nd and so on element the displayed html page?


So in summary, I hope that future Html View Mode enhancements are keyboard centric and stick to what I've called the core functionality. But of course in the end it is up to Mouser to set the course for FARR.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: nitrix-ud on June 15, 2008, 03:17 PM
i pretty much agree with everything you said Nod5  :Thmbsup:

except i think 1 and 2 are needed
and more than that i think 1 is an absolute must

and i don't think it will be too much work for mouser and i'm sure you will be able to toggle it on and off...  ;)
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: herojoker on June 15, 2008, 04:35 PM
Why do you want an adress field? In my opinion it's already there! There's only an "igo " before every URL...
Or do you actually want to see the current URL? Then one could easily write a little wrapper page with JS which shows the URL. I guess a full adress bar could be realized this way too (is it possible to retrieve the current URL of a page which is shown in an IFrame?).
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: nitrix-ud on June 15, 2008, 05:24 PM
There's only an "igo " before every URL...

what if you navigate a bit ?
what if you do not use igo directly ?
consider this simple alias :
regex : ^php (.*)
php.net | dosearch htmlviewurl http://www.php.net/$$1
you never see the url in FARR search box, you'll see : php explode (for instance)

Or do you actually want to see the current URL?
yes i want to see the current URL and i'd like to be able to change it

you never changed a url by hand ? to change langage, pages, ... to select only the domaine name... and so on and on and on

Then one could easily write a little wrapper page with JS which shows the URL. I guess a full adress bar could be realized this way too (is it possible to retrieve the current URL of a page which is shown in an IFrame?)

yes this can be done, but current url of the activex web object is already here
why overcomplexify a simple problem

plus... i understand that mouser will make it optional so i don't think there should be any debate concerning address bar and mini-toolbar

the real debate concerns add-blocker, add-ons, ...
and for that i vote no  :P
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: msgray on July 06, 2008, 03:48 AM
Hi all,

I discovered FARR today by following back a hit on my TiddlyWiki http://sidebarnotes.tiddlywiki.com that came from this Forum. I'm trying to understand the HTML view mode, alias etc.  It appears hard coded because I can't find a way to make my own alias as per the Help file maybe I'm missing something crucial to the understanding of this.

That notwithstanding, and although I know next to nothing about any of this, I have read these posts and can see certain misgivings about this HTML viewer growing like topsy into another Firefox or God forbid another IE. There may be a certain validity to these fears as all things seem to continue to grow and grow, possibly because the Universe is expanding for want of a better reason :-)

Needless to say I have already gotten caught up in this and would like to try something.  We have a little browser plugin at TiddlyWiki that may satisfy anyone's need for a browser without FARR growing at all, by just loading a TiddlyWiki into the HTML viewer. Except I don't know how to do it.

I've got another little squeezable TiddlyWiki that I use in my Firefox sidebar that I use for listening to the radio that's got this browser plugin in it that we could try if someone could explain how to do it; it's at:

http://sidebarradio.tiddlyspot.com/#[[ABCBrowser]]
http://tinyurl.com/5jkoty

Regards,

Morris
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
http://sidebarpluginvault.tiddlyspot.com
World's largest squeezable TW plugin database




Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 04:06 AM
Welcome to the site Morris  :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
Great to see you post here.

I created 2 aliases for FARR that use tiddlywiki and gtdwiki, which are installed by default into FARR.
You can access them by typing: tiwi OR gwp

If you go to the FARR options and the ALIASES tab, and select the gtd_tiddlywiki.alias file you will see this for the gwp result:

[Select]
GTD Tiddly Wiki Plus| htmlviewurl file://%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/TiddlyWiki/gwp/gtd_tiddlywiki.htm /ICON=gtd_tiddlywiki.ico

that line is all that is needed to show the self-contained wiki htm file in html view mode.  the file is located in the %FARRDIR%MyLocalData/TiddlyWiki/gwp/ directory.

TIWI is:
[Select]
Tiddly Wiki| htmlviewurl file://%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/TiddlyWiki/tiwi/MyTiddlyWiki.html /ICON=tiddlywiki.ico


If you want to add your own, what you should do is make a directory in
%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/

and put your wiki htm/html file and any other helper files in that directory.

and then make an alias to refer to it, just like the tiwi and gwp aliases.

an important note:
you need to select the myaliases.alias file to add your own aliases (you can move and manually edit stuff later); it's done like this to make updating safer.

one thing i noticed while getting the tiddlywiki and gtdwiki to work before was that i had to manually create some of the backup subdirs or it failed.

i can help getting your tiddlywiki to work if you get stuck following these instructions -- this htmlview mode is all brand new and the aliases aren't the easiest thing to master, so there's no shame in needing help getting it working!
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 04:08 AM
If you do get it working, you may want to "package" a standalone alias pack for your sidebar wiki so others can just download and install it, in much the same way that the gwp and tiwi aliases are packaged, with their own alias file and icon.  i can help with that when the time comes  :up:
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: msgray on July 06, 2008, 10:57 AM
I got sidebarradio.html running in HtmlView all right.  All the radio stations play and the browser works perfectly. It's quite enjoyable seeing colourful web pages open while listening to Rachmaninoff's Concerto No. 2 :-) I'm not sure what it's all good for but it works.... well you can continue listening to the radio while you work, until you use FARR again then it stops. Which is an undocumented feature since you shouldn't be listening to the radio while you are trying to concentrate on finding something :-)

For the record.....

1: I created a directory in "C:\Program Files\FindAndRunRobot\MyLocalData\TiddlyWiki\sdbr\sidebarradio.html"
2: In myalias.alias I put "Sdbr Tiddly Wiki Plus| htmlviewurl file://%FARRDIR%MyLocalData/TiddlyWiki/sdbr/sidebarradio.html"

Doing a search in FARR for sdbr returns two results:

Sdbr Tiddly Wiki Plus
Alias sdbr
Score 1000
===and===
sdbr
TiddlyWiki\
Score 433

The first opens sidbarradio.html in HtmlView and runs perfectly.
The second opens Windows Explorer to C:\Program Files\FindAndRunRobot\MyLocalData\TiddlyWiki\sdbr\sidebarradio.html

Doing a search in FARR for gwp returns two results:

GTD Tiddly Wiki Plus
Alias gwp
Score: 1000
===and===
gwp
TiddlyWiki\
Score 427
 
With the same result as above respectively.

However Doing a search in FARR for tiwi only returns one result:

tiwi
TiddlyWiki\
Score: 432

So nothing will open in HtmlView; only in Windows Explorer. I don't believe I disturbed anything.  Restarting everything doesn't help.

So there you are, the usual; a good result tempered by a fly in the ointment :-)

I would be interested to learn how to package this as you said so others might try it and maybe do a dedicated TiddlyWiki for some purpose yet to be imagined.

Regards,

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
http://sidebarpluginvault.tiddlyspot.com
World's largest squeezable TW plugin database
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 11:13 AM
It sounds like the reason that its finding the extra results for each is that you might have the actual FARR directory in your FARR search path.  Which is an interesting thing i've not considered..

Probably the smart thing to do (and which I should do in the default installation), is add the FARR directory to your list of subfolders to EXCLUDE when searching the PROGRAMFILES directory.

In other words, if you have checked the checkbox to ask FARR to search %PROGRAMFILES% (which by the way i personally have unchecked), then double click on it and add the farr directory to those directories to exclude:
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Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 11:15 AM
Now as for why tiwi is not showing any results.. that is odd, i'm not sure..
Maybe you could go to the alias tab and select the TiddlyWiki.alias file and look at the tiwi alias and see if its unchecked for any reason.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: msgray on July 06, 2008, 08:50 PM
The %PROGRAMFILES% has never been checked; even so I still added FindAndRunRobot to the exclude subdirectories as shown in the screen shot to no avail.

I have since added three more TiddlyWikis to the system and they all return two results as well. I am new to this and I don't know what is normal. I assumed the two results I originally saw was normal.

After some investigation I've found that to prevent the extra results "BOTH" %FARRDIR%MyLocalData/ in Search Folder and C:\Program Files\FindAndRunRobot\MyLocalData/\TiddlyWiki\xxxx\ in Launch History must "both" be unchecked, neither on their own prevents the duplication.

Another way of getting a single return(with both of the above checked again) is in Search Behavior change the "Stop search on regex alias match" that was ticked by default to:  to "exact alias match"

I have checked and double checked and have reached the point of diminishing returns on trying to find a way to get "tiwi" to come up properly like all the rest; short of reinstalling FARR.  Do you have a plugin that will overlay core aliases? I don't know how much of this is my unfamiliarity but I think something is amiss in "tiwi". But as Scarlet O'Hara said; "I'll think about that tomorrow" and it will be corrected in due course.

However I've got everything else working satisfactorily and would like to learn how to package some of this to share.

Regards,

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
http://sidebarpluginvault.tiddlyspot.com
World's largest squeezable TW plugin database


Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 09:05 PM
good for you for discovering the launch history thing. you might want to just delete all the entries on that list (right click and say delete all in the launch history).  that's just a list of previously launched things by you and as you figured out, the fact that you launched it once means its being matched from now on.

as for tiwi alias..
anyone else having this trouble? does tiwi alias not work for anyone else?

as for packaging, basically what you would do is:
SbrPack\Readme.txt
SbrPack\AliasGroups\Installed\Sbr\sbr.alias
SbrPack\AliasGroups\Installed\Sbr\sbr.icon
SbrPack\MyLocalData\Sbr\sidebar.html
(but change the directories to match where you refer to the sidebar.html
the readme would tell people to put the the folders in the matching folders in FARR.

I'm afraid right now there is nothing automated about it, but most people will be able to follow the instructions.

Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on July 06, 2008, 09:51 PM
mouser I setup hotkey for gwp. It shows up fine but everytime i press the shortcut for gwp I need to press enter to bring gtp tiddlywiki in html viewer as well. is there a way to invoke-run gwp automatically?

Restartsearch or search with "/n" does not do the trick for me for some reason
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 09:58 PM
Restartsearch or search with "/n" does not do the trick for me for some reason
yes i will add.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on July 06, 2008, 10:07 PM
Is dosearch broken at the moment?
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2008, 11:03 PM
is it? if so let's talk about it in another thread.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: msgray on July 08, 2008, 02:43 AM
I'm afraid right now there is nothing automated about it, but most people will be able to follow the instructions.
-mouser (July 06, 2008, 09:05 PM)

Well I think I have put together a package for a browser to use with Farr.  I hope I will be forgiven for being so banal but since I am giving it "to" Farr; I couldn't resist naming it "A Browser to Farr"  I can't imagine how many times you've heard that one :-)

I've handled the directory like this <FindAndRunRobot\AliasGroups\Installed\TWHelp\Browser\farrbrowser.alias> because I have a couple of other TiddlyWiki reference things I might add to this TWHelp directory.

Anyhow I've zipped it all up. It may or may not be clear about the directories but I've tried my best to explain in ReadMe.  Now I need someone to try it out.  Do you have a place I can upload the zip file or how do you handle things like this?

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
http://sidebarpluginvault.tiddlyspot.com
World's largest squeezable TW plugin database


Thanks, I didn't notice you could attach files.  For the time being I'll just send Browser.zip as an attachment so someone else can check to see if what I've done actually works.

Regards,
Morris
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: tomos on July 08, 2008, 02:57 AM
Do you have a place I can upload the zip file or how do you handle things like this?
-msgray (July 08, 2008, 02:43 AM)
short-term:
edit your post (or if you writing new post you may have to click "Preview" to get option to add attachments)

below the text-box you'll see "attach" & "browse" buttons

(mouser may have other suggestions)
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 08, 2008, 03:17 AM
we can also provide web space at USERNAME.dcmembers.com if you want web/ftp space.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: msgray on July 08, 2008, 05:10 AM
I'm not sure whether the attachment went I've haven't seen any post yet. I did it as a modify.  I think I'll just do a new attachment.

Morris Gray
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on July 08, 2008, 06:24 AM
Just installed... *very* cool.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: cedardoc on July 09, 2008, 01:18 PM
I've searched for others with this problem but couldn't find note of it.  Is anyone getting this error too?

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

(the screenshot didn't appear in the preview, but hopefully it'll work when I post)
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on December 14, 2008, 01:15 PM
I am getting the same error above. I just wanted to use the latest version of tiddlywiki. SO I just pasted over the one under Farr folder.

Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on December 14, 2008, 01:39 PM
kartal does the one that comes in the pack work and not give the error?
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: kartal on December 14, 2008, 02:07 PM
Yeah that one did not give me any error
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on December 14, 2008, 02:10 PM
ok so maybe i made a small modification to it or something, i'll compare old and new versions (or someone can) to see what the difference is.
Title: Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)
Post by: mouser on March 04, 2009, 12:44 PM
Maybe someone can add this one:
http://www.giffmex.org/tiddlydu2.html