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Title: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 14, 2007, 11:52 AM
I wrote up a large blog post exposing a company called CD Earth, LLC which seems to be ThinkAll reopening their doors.  This company is doing the exact same thing with the exact same software.  Giving away free software for $2.95 shipping and shipping you extra CDs that if not returned in a prompt manner you will get charged $14.99/ CD for.  Then you are agreeing to be enrolled in a Software Library Club where they will automatically charge you $5.95/CD to ship you CDs that you either have to return to them in a given time frame or be charged $14.99/CD.

This company is doing nothing more then preying on people and ripping people off.

My Blog post:
http://www.veign.com/blog/2007/10/cdearth-thinkall-one-big-scam.html

Digg It:
http://digg.com/software/CDEarth_scamming_users_just_like_ThinkAll_did

Lets get the word out and put a stop to this company.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 14, 2007, 12:11 PM
In case anyone is in doubt of CD Earth being ThinkAll here is the LLC filing information:

Manager on Filing Document:
Yury Mintskovsky

Manager Address:
{snipped} N. Dallas Parkway, Suite {snipped}
Dallas, TX 75248 USA

Registered Agent:
Incorp Services, Inc.

Address:
{snipped} Brazos Street, Suite {snipped}
Austin, TX 78701 USA

Same guy named in a lawsuit by the FTC for ThinkAll.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Deozaan on October 14, 2007, 03:37 PM
So what can we do to get this guy shut down again?
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 14, 2007, 08:25 PM
Probably contact the FTC and let them know.  Here is the FTC write up on ThinkAll:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/01/manay.shtm

Need to spread the word again.  I have more information on another scam site by this guy that hasn't officially opened yet.  I will be doing another blog post on this website sometime this week.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 14, 2007, 08:51 PM
A$$hole... (the Thinkall/CD Earth guy, not you Veign! Thanks for alerting us to this  :Thmbsup:)!
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 14, 2007, 09:07 PM
Wait till you see the other website he has started but not yet fully released yet. Sickening and preys on the novice.  I will do the blog post next weekend after I do more research.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 15, 2007, 09:26 AM
The thing I can't understand is if you are being pursued by the FTC why open a new company in your name?  You would also think the FTC would pick up on it.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Ralf Maximus on October 15, 2007, 09:58 AM
Criminals is stupid.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: tinjaw on October 15, 2007, 10:51 AM
Veign, I think what you are doing is a good thing. I should do more to help on matters like this, but I am going to blame it on lack of time.  :-[ Thanks for fighting the good fight.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 15, 2007, 11:57 AM
Thanx TinJaw.   Even more coming down the pipe on ThinkAll.  Just need to get the word out.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 18, 2007, 09:27 AM
Seems like the blog post (http://www.veign.com/blog/2007/10/cdearth-thinkall-one-big-scam.html) is getting buried in Google and all the Press Release's released by CDEarth are taking focus.  We need to get this on the first page of Google so users are warned about whats going on.

To do this consider adding a link from your blog back to the blog post (http://www.veign.com/blog/2007/10/cdearth-thinkall-one-big-scam.html).  This will help keep in fresh in Google and spread the word.

if we can do what happened with ThinkAll where my blog post took over the number #1 spot in Google, then people will be warned.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 18, 2007, 09:43 AM
Here's another company owned and run by the same guy behind ThinkAll and CDEarth:
http://www.mdkiosk.com/index.php

Will you get what you pay for?  Not sure and I wouldn't want to find out based on the business practices of the other two websites.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 18, 2007, 10:12 AM
Chris - I am naive when it comes to blogging, and don't have a blog. Is there any other way that I can help bump your blog's profile?
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 18, 2007, 10:19 AM
The only way is to have backlinks with CDEarth in the anchor text. You can Digg it (http://digg.com/software/CDEarth_scamming_users_just_like_ThinkAll_did) - might help.

Thanx!
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 18, 2007, 10:52 AM
OK will do, Chris. Just waiting for my e-mail to be verified. As I am waiting for a human to respond this might take a bit of time, but it's on my to do list!
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 18, 2007, 01:28 PM
Done! Apparently, I set up a digg account two years ago but had no recollection of it. All taken care of now. I hope you get a lot of response on this, Chris. I hate to think of people getting ripped off, especially if it can be avoided by getting the word out.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 18, 2007, 03:47 PM
What's strange is my post is no longer in Google's Index.  Blog backlinks will force Google to re-index it and hopefully we can make it stick.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: hamradio on October 18, 2007, 03:54 PM
We need to bury it at digg! >>> CDEarth has a new 3101 Computer Screensavers, Backgrounds & Wallpaper CDRom (http://digg.com/software/CDEarth_has_a_new_3101_Computer_Screensavers_Backgrounds_Wallpaper_CDRom)
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 18, 2007, 04:06 PM
I added a comment, Carroll.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Deozaan on October 18, 2007, 04:15 PM
I also added a comment and clicked on the guy's profile and found he made another post about CD Earth on Digg.

What a scumbag.

Luckily no one else has dugg them as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 18, 2007, 04:21 PM
It would almost be good if it made the front page as the comments would be read by everyone.

He won't last.  I'm sure the FTC will be on his case once people start realizing what's going on with the 'Free' software and start complaining.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Lashiec on October 19, 2007, 02:06 PM
We need to bury it at digg! >>> CDEarth has a new 3101 Computer Screensavers, Backgrounds & Wallpaper CDRom (http://digg.com/software/CDEarth_has_a_new_3101_Computer_Screensavers_Backgrounds_Wallpaper_CDRom)

The guy is not exactly bright, isn't he? He uses the same name as the collection he is digging, if it made it to the front page, people would bury it for blatant self promotion. That won't happen, Digg users are interested in more constructive themes... :-\
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 19, 2007, 02:08 PM
I'm a digg neophyte - how exactly do you bury a posting? I'm keen to help!
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Lashiec on October 19, 2007, 02:11 PM
It's right there. "Bury it", with a red cross, and the word "Bury" at the right side of the cross
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on October 19, 2007, 02:38 PM
I also thought that was

The guy is not exactly bright, isn't he? He uses the same name as the collection he is digging, if it made it to the front page, people would bury it for blatant self promotion. That won't happen, Digg users are interested in more constructive themes... :-\

I also thought that was funny.  I almost wish it would hit the front page.  He would get ripped apart.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Darwin on October 19, 2007, 03:50 PM
It's right there. "Bury it", with a red cross, and the word "Bury" at the right side of the cross

Ah...  :-[

Couldn't see for looking!
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on November 04, 2007, 10:48 AM
What's funny is my blog post has taken the #1 spot in Google if you do a search for CDEarth (http://www.google.com/search?q=cdearth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).  Not sure if it will last long but at least it will save some people from being ripped off.
Title: Re: CD Earth picks up where ThinkAll left off
Post by: Veign on July 01, 2008, 01:31 PM
Update on what happened to ThinkAll (who now owns CD Earth):
http://www.veign.com/blog/2008/06/thinkall-cd-earth-must-pay-22-million.html

Justice!