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Last post Author Topic: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...  (Read 82276 times)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #175 on: October 26, 2008, 11:57:24 AM »
Alan: Here at DC we have a policy that people can recommend their own software, as long as they mention they are related to the product.
From a quick google search, it's obvious that you are associated with the product, and most probably its author (see here).

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #176 on: October 27, 2008, 04:12:02 PM »
NoClone shop:

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #177 on: October 20, 2009, 06:29:44 AM »
Just a heads up for anyone considering XYplorer, its price will be making a jump in 2010:
http://www.xyplorer....tsnew.htm#prices2010
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New Prices in 2010!

19-Oct-2009
The addition of power features like Dual Pane, Mini Tree, Tags & Comments, Search Results Caching, Custom Toolbar Buttons, Undo/Redo, and Action Log, will be reflected in next year's prices:

Lifetime License
     NOW:  single € 29.95 -- US$ 44.95 -- £ 28.95 each
    2010:  single € 49.95 -- US$ 74.95 -- £ 44.95 each

Standard License
     NOW:  single € 17.50 -- US$ 24.95 -- £ 16.95 each
    2010:  single € 29.95 -- US$ 44.95 -- £ 26.95 each
   
Home License
     NOW:  single €  9.95 -- US$ 14.95 -- £  8.95 each
    2010:  single € 19.95 -- US$ 29.95 -- £ 17.95 each

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #178 on: October 20, 2009, 01:30:25 PM »
Lifetime License
     NOW:  single € 29.95 -- US$ 44.95 -- £ 28.95 each
    2010:  single € 49.95 -- US$ 74.95 -- £ 44.95 each

Holy crap on a stick! Going from US$44.95 to US$74.95 is a huge jump.

If someone's been on the fence about buying this one the time to act is now.

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #179 on: October 20, 2009, 03:54:45 PM »
Another reason to spend money for another file manager. Don't support DOpus-like capitalism.  :P

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #180 on: October 20, 2009, 04:16:08 PM »
Another reason to spend money for another file manager. Don't support DOpus-like capitalism.  :P

Yes. How dare software authors attempt to make money...

I just don't get the complaints - Opus costs about the same as a dinner for two at a reasonable restaurant here in Aus. I know which I get more value from.

DonL has the right to charge any price he likes and users have the right to decide whether they feel the product worthwhile. Personally I don't like the fact that there's no upgrade path from Home to Pro and I think that might be a mistake. Still, that's just my opinion and as I said, DonL can try whatever marketing methods he likes.

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #181 on: October 20, 2009, 04:22:25 PM »
Sure, but it is just a file manager (although a good one indeed). $74.95 (still a quite high value in real money) is too much IMHO.
He could ofc take the double of that, and someone could willingly pay that. But ... come on: $74.95 for a file manager?!

(Yep, I take the lifetime license as my point here. To me, all other license types are just paid trials.)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #182 on: October 20, 2009, 04:38:59 PM »
Sure, but it is just a file manager (although a good one indeed). $74.95 (still a quite high value in real money) is too much IMHO.
He could ofc take the double of that, and someone could willingly pay that. But ... come on: $74.95 for a file manager?!

I spend a lot of my computer time using a file manager, it's easily the most used application on the pc. Compared to Office 2007 which I use infrequently I get good value from my $85AUD for Opus.

I installed XYPlorer some time ago for a brief look and personally I don't see $75USD value in it, but someone who uses it all the time may disagree. Realistically, it's 2009 here in Australia and $75USD doesn't get you much no matter what you try to buy. :)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #183 on: October 20, 2009, 04:48:18 PM »
Office 2007... not worth a single cent.  :P

However, back to topic: Right, a file manager is the most-used application on most systems. But does that mean that it automatically has to be more expensive than other, maybe even more sophisticated applications on your system?

If a price would depend on the product's usage, I wonder if the Firefox guys were millionaires...

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personally I don't see $75USD value in it
At least you got my point here.

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #184 on: October 20, 2009, 05:02:24 PM »
If a price would depend on the product's usage, I wonder if the Firefox guys were millionaires...

I read a while back that Firefox was making a fair bit of money due to the referrals that using the Google search widget generates.  So there's not necessarily a need to charge a price to make a good income.  In 2006 Mozilla paid out about $20 Million to 90 employees - so the average is over $200K per employee.  Of course that's not all necessarily paid to the employees (some for benefits and taxes I'd think). But I also wouldn't assume that the distribution was even though, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two millionaires in there.

  - http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=6715



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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #185 on: October 20, 2009, 05:06:35 PM »
If a price would depend on the product's usage, I wonder if the Firefox guys were millionaires...

Firefox generates millions of dollars.

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personally I don't see $75USD value in it
At least you got my point here.

Not really, you're saying that it's over-priced. I'm saying that for me it's not worth the money - it's not my preferred manager so it wouldn't be worth $10 to me - let alone $75. Others who use it all the time are easily getting $75 worth of value from it.

Forgetting for a moment the brand of file manager, regardless which you prefer, software which is used constantly is easily worth the price of dinner and a movie. :)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2009, 05:10:53 PM »
There is little reason that software should be treated differently than other commodities (unless you want to get into the open source and FOSS debates  :P ) DOpus is, if not the most expensive, among the most expensive of its kind. Whether the feature set justifies it and sets it apart from others of its kind is only up to each individual user.

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2009, 05:37:49 PM »
There is little reason that software should be treated differently than other commodities (unless you want to get into the open source and FOSS debates  :P ) DOpus is, if not the most expensive, among the most expensive of its kind. Whether the feature set justifies it and sets it apart from others of its kind is only up to each individual user.

well said :)

I think cost-wise that XYplorer at current lifetime licence for $44.95US is very worth snapping up. I do miss some things from DOpus (didnt upgrade to version 9, bought XY instead) but I suspect I'd also miss things if I was migrating the other direction. XY is much more affordable and being developed very actively.
If I had the money though, I'd buy both :D
Tom

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #188 on: June 24, 2010, 05:43:50 PM »
I have a license for several file managers, but the one I keep actually using besides Explorer is Q-Dir (the Unicode version). Now at version 4.28

Read: http://www.softwareo...seite=Freeware/Q-Dir
Get: http://www.softwareo....com/?Download=Q-Dir

Steady as a rock, and with this oh so useful "Quadruped-View" window ;-)


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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #189 on: June 24, 2010, 05:51:37 PM »
Users speaking German might also want to try Expicula which looks promising indeed.  :)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #190 on: June 24, 2010, 11:22:41 PM »
Yes, Expicula seems to be pretty straightforward, intuitive and quick.
Thanks for the reminder!

 
Users speaking German might also want to try Expicula which looks promising indeed.  :)

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #191 on: June 25, 2010, 04:13:31 AM »
De nada.  8)
Just stumbled upon it and thought it could be a valid alternative.

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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #192 on: July 04, 2010, 04:26:50 PM »
The most important features I get from (overlapping and eyecandy included):

QT Tabbar, CFi ShellToys, Xentient Thumbnails, WireKeys, PS Hot Folders, Send To Toys, MediaInfo, Punk ÜberIcon, BAxBEx for IrfanView, and DM2.

Because of Quizo QT Tabbar I never got to realize that CFi Shell Toys includes a magnificent, tabbed, full Explorer "replacement"!
click to enlarge:

cfiexplorer.pngFile Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...


-comes included with bunches of shell extensions and tools, and its own Control Panel.

Pricing:
First license:  GBP £20.00  (approx. US $29.00,  EUR €24.00)
Additional licenses:  GBP £5.00 each  (approx. US $7.00,  EUR €6.00)
 :up:


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Which versions of Windows can ShellToys be used with?
You can use ShellToys with 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Windows from Windows 98 onwards, except Windows NT. That means it can be used with Windows 98, 98 Second Edition, Millennium Edition, 2000, and all 32-bit and 64-bit editions of Windows XP, Server 2003, Server 2008, Vista and 7.


Does ShellToys support 64-bit versions of Windows?
Yes, an x64-compatible edition of ShellToys is available from our Download page.


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Re: File Managers! Windows Explorer replacement! Come one, come all...
« Reply #193 on: July 04, 2010, 05:52:05 PM »
I have a license for several file managers, but the one I keep actually using besides Explorer is Q-Dir (the Unicode version). Now at version 4.28

Read: http://www.softwareo...seite=Freeware/Q-Dir
Get: http://www.softwareo....com/?Download=Q-Dir

Steady as a rock, and with this oh so useful "Quadruped-View" window ;-)



For awhile I kept trying this one.  Looks like the author tries to perfect it. But it seems like every time I try to do something while something else is happening, the window goes white and it stop responding(well, not "every time" but a high enough percentage that I gave up on it.)

I like the idea of it.  Just seems like the threading is too fragile.

edit: this may be exacerbated by large files.  I tend to move around multi-GB files. If all the drag & drop are trivial files then it handles it. It just seems like once you put a load on it by having a long file copy in the background, it can't deal with it unless you just leave it sit 'til completion.


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