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Last post Author Topic: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?  (Read 17280 times)

wreckedcarzz

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2007, 09:30:31 PM »
I have used 95, 98, 98SE, 2k, ME, XP (all versions), Vista Home Basic and Home Premium, and have yet to run into this problem. Heck, even running games that require minimum system requirements above that of a 7 year old computer hasn't triggered this. Maybe I am just lucky :)

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2008, 07:53:31 AM »
This is fixed in windows 2008 where the key Windows has the value 12288:
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%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,12288,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2008, 08:13:24 AM »
nice find justice, that's quite telling.

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2008, 08:47:44 AM »
So... er, has any brave soul tried setting this value (12288) in XP?
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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2008, 08:51:53 AM »
12288 is not brave.

Someone should try 9999999.

But please don't try it on a pc with real data on it :)

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2008, 09:02:02 AM »
Right then, Darwin timidly steps into the fray and starts modding his Registry. 9999998 has a nice ring to it!
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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2008, 01:02:52 PM »
My default already was Windows SharedSection=1024,4096,512
- did I perhaps get this from some "xp enhancer"-program?  :-\


12288 sounds more than brave to me!  :tellme:

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2008, 03:56:38 PM »
12288 sounds more than brave to me!  :tellme:

I admit my ignorance in exactly what this is used for, but I don't understand why that sounds brave. That's just 12MB. I have ~2,000MB RAM on this machine. Most people these days have at least 512MB if not 1GB of RAM.

On my system, Firefox often takes up around 150MB by itself. So that's why I think 12MB is nothing.


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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2008, 07:20:27 PM »
I made the change and - no surprises here - after 10 hours of continuous use, no problems. I've spent most of that time with mutiple Office 2007 apps and docs open, Endnote X, a webbrowser and so on open with not so much as a hiccough. Couldn't in honesty claim that it would have been a problem before, though.
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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2008, 09:24:59 AM »
You made the change, Darwin, but did you choose 12288 or 9999998 ?  :tellme:

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2008, 10:23:19 AM »
I admit my ignorance in exactly what this is used for, but I don't understand why that sounds brave. That's just 12MB. I have ~2,000MB RAM on this machine. Most people these days have at least 512MB if not 1GB of RAM.

On my system, Firefox often takes up around 150MB by itself. So that's why I think 12MB is nothing.
I'm with you there, Deozaan. Could someone please explain why/if 12288 is so brave in terms that even I can understand :-[

I changed my setting to 4096 which reduced this problem to "almost zero", but I've seen the dreaded message once or twice since, although nothing like before. Any point in setting 12288?

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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2008, 07:47:03 PM »
I made the change to 12288, Curt  :)

My original use of the term brave was really in the context of the expression "brave soul" - I didn't mean much by it!
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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2008, 11:04:46 PM »
I never ran into the problem before that I can remember on this particular machine, but just to see if it improved performance I changed it to 8096 or whatever amount he said was working fine for him in the article.

I haven't noticed any difference though.


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Re: Is this the holy grail to solving windows-out-of-resources bugs?
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2008, 10:55:54 AM »
I ran into this tweak awhile back and it fixed the (slightly different than stated here) issue I was having at the time. I frequently open dozens of browser windows when branching a research project each of which can have a dozen or so tabs open ... This habbit was causing major stability issues. There are two other related tweakable reg keys mentioned in the article that have made my box dead rock stable regardless of what I've asked it to do.

The original artical is no longer posted, but fortunately I'd ripped a copy to .pdf so I can still share it. This was originally written by Robert McLaws and posted on his Windows-Now.com blog.

http://www.stoicjoke...imits-in-Windows.pdf


Thanks to mouser for reminding me of this tweak as it works wonders for stabilizing Vista.