And all I'm saying is I'm not sure the market will support such success at this point. It is frankly sheer luck that WP is successful *and* as good as it is. Don't kid yourself and imagine that the success has so much to do with how "good" it is. Joomla, Drupal, both are extremely successful and popular. Are they "good"? Sure. Better than every other CMS? Highly arguable. I agree that it would be nice if a clear leader emerged in the CMS market as it has in the blog market, and even more if it was a relatively well designed system like WP. I just don't see it happening soon given the current landscape.