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Ripoff Britain strikes again ... this time with Vista Pricing
Lashiec:
According to the newspapers, Vista Ultimate costs 600€ here in Spain. And I thought it was too much money for a SO, but $728 is insane...
By the way, talking about Vista pricing, why is that during months people had been getting mad about Vista saying that with that prices they would make the switch to Mac and Linux, and claiming about evil Microsoft getting rich at people expense and all sort of nasty things, and nobody ever said: hey, we're talking about Vista RETAIL editions, not about Vista OEM, which, by the way, is a bargain, considering that for 7€ more than XP Pro, I can get Vista Business OEM and for 100€, Vista Home Premium, which includes far more features than old XP.
All things considered, Vista is not as expensive as people once considered. Heck, XP Pro retail costs a whooping 460€ here. The only Vista edition significantly expensive is Ultimate, and most of the things included in it are not exactly useful (although people would end getting it for the 'kitchen sink' factor ;D). As always, panic take control of everyone and after that, they can't see the facts, that Vista vs. XP is more or less the same thing as XP vs. 2000: too many hype, too many fallacies, and after all, is not a radical departure from the old thing.
Oh, and in my university, Vista Business costs around 2€: the cost of a DVD. Good MSDNA ;D
Carol Haynes:
does that mean we could get a friend in canada to buy it and then ship it over without having to pay extra duty when it got here?
like Carol, i'm not going to use Vista, i'm just curious as to what would happen - you could even buy it in canada and flog it on and make a profit in the UK. it can't be that simple, i'm sure.
-nudone (February 02, 2007, 01:37 AM)
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In theory you can do that and if your friend is willing to declare the package as a cheap DVD or a gift you may get away with it. If it is all decalared properly the only charges you will incur will be VAT at standard rate plus a fixed fee from the Post Office for doing the paperwork (IIRC ~£5). There is no duty on software.
The full cost of a copy from Canada would therefore be about £260 after VAT is paid.
The only other issue to consider is that MS do not allow sellers in one trading block to export their products - which is why you can't buy the software on amazon.ca or .com and so technically you would be breaking their terms of trade. I am not sure if installation codes are serialised by country so that MS can check. The DVDs in the EU may be different to the CDs in the US as the EU has restricted some of the bundled software as a result of the antitrust hearings - whether that means the discs are different or you get a different install if you say you are in an EU country I don't know.
Personally I have no qualms about purchasing software from MS, Corel and Adobe from Canada because as far as I am concerned the restriction to individual markets around the world is effectively a restriction of trade and price fixing which I think is illegal. It is certainly illegal to have trading restrictions within the EU so you can save a bit of money by buying it from a Euro economy - so long as you can find a language version you can live with. I presume there are English versions available in France and Germany as well as the national language but you may find they are a different version and restricted to the update cycles of those countries (which tend to be much slower than the English/US versions available in most English speaking countries).
See http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/downloadFile?contentID=HMCE_PROD_009989 (it is a pdf file) which details the charges applied on imports for common items.
Carol Haynes:
I can't find OEM versions of Vista, and I think I heard something about Microsoft not wanting to allow this anyway (can't find any references though, so I might be wrong). Anyway, Vista price at www.shg.dk: Windows Vista Ultimate, 32/64 Bit, Retail: DKK3.899/GBP345.87. That's pretty insane.
-f0dder (February 02, 2007, 04:10 AM)
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OEM versions are out there. www.overclockers.co.uk stock them.
Carol Haynes:
By the way, talking about Vista pricing, why is that during months people had been getting mad about Vista saying that with that prices they would make the switch to Mac and Linux, and claiming about evil Microsoft getting rich at people expense and all sort of nasty things, and nobody ever said: hey, we're talking about Vista RETAIL editions, not about Vista OEM, which, by the way, is a bargain, considering that for 7€ more than XP Pro, I can get Vista Business OEM and for 100€, Vista Home Premium, which includes far more features than old XP.
-Lashiec (February 02, 2007, 05:39 AM)
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The reason I chose retail prices is because they are published for all countries by MS so they are comparable - other versions and special offers can reduce the price considerably.
Actually I think MS want people to buy OEM versions now because they changed the EULA for the full versions of VISTA to pretty much match the OEM EULA (and then backtracked a littel when there was a massive outcry). Whether people are technically entitled to buy the OEM version is another matter - they are after all only supposed to be supplied to system builders but many suppliers are now openly selling them to anyone who coughs up or with a nominal bit of hardware (like a USB cable).
tomos:
@Carol, I have bought English versions of Windows here (Germany) - dont think there's any difference to UK/IRE versions.
I find the range of options here very confusing, never mind the range of pricing.
Some prices:
Spoiler MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Business Englisch, System Builder Version 66J-02289
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 148,75 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Ultimate Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Englisch, System Builder Version 66R-00765
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 201,11 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Ultimate Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Englisch 66R-00020
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 522,41 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Ultimate englisch DVD windows
, Plattform: Windows Vista No Operating System
0882224181198
Versandkosten: Gratis - Kategorie: Software 549,00 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Amazon.de
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Business Englisch 66J-00022
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 391,51 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business englisch DVD windows
, Plattform: Windows Vista No Operating System
0882224181228
Versandkosten: Gratis - Kategorie: Software 419,00 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Amazon.de
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Premium Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Englisch 66I-00017
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 315,35 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Basic Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Englisch 66G-00021
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 272,51 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Business 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version 66J-02373
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 148,75 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Basic 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version 66G-00660
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 94,01 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Premium Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Englisch, System Builder Version 66I-00715
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 117,81 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business Upgrade Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Business Upgrade Englisch 66J-00023
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 260,61 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade Englisch 66I-00018
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 213,01 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Basic Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Englisch, System Builder Version 66G-00576
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 5,70 - Kategorie: Software 94,01 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade Englisch 66G-00017
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 141,61 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade englisch DVD windows
, Plattform: Windows XP Windows Vista
0882224181297
Versandkosten: Gratis - Kategorie: Software 229,00 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Amazon.de
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade Englisch windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade Englisch 66R-00021
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 343,91 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version 66I-00788
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 117,81 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version windows
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit Englisch, System Builder Version 66R-00838
Lieferzeit: bis 5 Tage - Versandkosten: 10,70 - Kategorie: Software 201,11 €
(inkl. gesetzl. MwSt.)
Von Misco Online
MICROSOFT Windows Vista Business (ohne Media Player) Upgrade englisch DVD windows 279 €
I like the one at the end: "without Windows Media Player"
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