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Author Topic: Improve Request: allow an back slash in file name to create folders  (Read 6348 times)
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« on: August 19, 2005, 06:09:21 AM »

If this is easily possible for you

i want to suggest to create new folders with an backslash \ in the file name.


e.g.
[ Name: ] field

i have "Screenshot - 19_08_2005"

i want to add "Test\" bevor "Screenshot - 19_08_2005"
to create an new folder "Test" in my current Folder
and save this file there (or save in the existend folder "Test").

(or even an full path like "D:\this\is\an\Test" ??? )




e.g.
[File Name QuickField]

i want to add "D:\Screenshots\Browser\Opera_%num%"

to autom. create an new folder or save the pics in an existend folder

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The ratio between [Name] field and [File Name QuickField] field
in the main window should be alterable if one needs more space for the QuickField.
(on the otherhand: Since the QuickFiels is more static it's not so needful.)

You know, just suggestions.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2005, 10:14:53 AM »

great idea about saving filename directory - very in keeping with the screenshot captor approach which is designed to let you rename stuff.
also its a very clever idea also as a way of automatically saving files in subdirectories.

the only problem i see is the file browser - should it change to the directory where you save the file? and then you wouldn't see other screenshots in the main directory..  but if you don't change to the new directory, then the program migh have a hard time keeping track of what file you are working on since it wouldn't be visible.. i think i would have to make it change directories - but then the user might get lost and not know how to get back.

perhaps the MoveTo menu needs to somehow support both moving files to certain directories and also switching to certain directories? not sure how it should present that option to the user.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2005, 04:44:34 PM »

the only problem i see is the file browser
- should it change to the directory where you save the file?

NO.

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....  but if you don't change to the new directory,
then the program migh have a hard time keeping track of what file you are working on
since it wouldn't be visible..

> migh have a hard time keeping track

I didn't understand this.
I mean it is the same as you would use "Save as.." or "Send to..."
There you switch not to the save directory, too, isn't it ?



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i think i would have to make it change directories
- but then the user might get lost and not know how to get back.

> but then the user might get lost

I think so too.

I think we have an working directory (set in the properties)
and that's the default folder for the thumpnails i see.
If user want to see there current save dir (from Name field) they go there on there own.

I think "path \ filename" is a feature only for advanced users
since i know how people "get lost" with there files  smiley

User how didn't understand this way mustn't use this.
Maybe there mustn't be an hint in the help (or only a little)
so only user with experience use this behaviour.



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perhaps the MoveTo menu needs to somehow support both
moving files to certain directories
and also switching to certain directories?
not sure how it should present that option to the user.

> perhaps the MoveTo menu needs ...  also switching to certain directories

No, why ?
If you save in WORD you didn't switch there too.

For "normal" users may the standard Screenshot folder be enought.

If you want this however
you could f.ex. make an check box
in this "Move to..." dialog box
that say "open in Explorer"


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Just as reminder:

- "Move to..." miss the [New Folder] button

(- is there an need for anyone to COPY instead of MOVE ?)


and
- "Create new folder here" didn't ask for an name
was is no realy matter since we could use F2.


May I say this is an realy good screen cature tool ?
Now even the arrows and text and here we go  smiley
Have you now enought features and 'user-friendliness' or do you wanna collect more ?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2005, 05:39:35 PM »

keep the ideas coming smiley

the problem is that it would be moving the file, so the file would dissapear if its not in the current directory, and you would lose it from view immediately, so it might be confusing.  as you say it might be a tool just for advanced users so maybe i can just add it quietly smiley

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2005, 06:13:19 PM »

How about a "Move to ... " option that includes a customisable favourite locations list (perhaps a bit like the save boxes in MS Office - with folders down the left and files in the main save location). It would save anyone getting lost then ...

You could also have a "Jump to ..." version for jumping folder to folder, and a "Get from ..." for moving images back to the current location.

This would have the advantage that the thumbnail view could be simplified considerably as it would no longer have to be navigable.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2005, 06:39:15 PM »

that is what the moveto menu currently does, it lets you set up your own list of favorite folders to move stuff to.
and yes, this is what i was thinking w.r.t. jumpto - maybe it would be useful to let user navigate to those folders as well..
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2005, 06:54:28 PM »

> maybe it would be useful to let user navigate to those folders as well

just thoughts


File menu
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New...                                     (create new canvas)
Open...
Open last used folder                (no matter last save or move)
Open Favorites Folders >            (maybe allow only ten fav folders ? for better handling ? )
Save
Save as...
Save as in Favorites Folder >
Move to...
Move to Favorite Folder>
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2005, 07:21:47 PM »

i think we are in danger of growing 10000 menus and confusing people.
i think its probably a good thing to think of screenshot captor as using one directory to store all your screenshots until you want to move them into a permanent place.. so maybe too much moving around and saving copies in dif. places should not be encouraged, just for simplicity.  not sure though..
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2005, 08:20:27 PM »

> so maybe too much moving around and saving copies in dif. places
>  should not be encouraged, just for simplicity.

Yes i agree.
- one main save folder as set in preferences
- the possibility to move one or a group of pics
- and the advanced path\file -name feature
is enought

People how used this or move pics
should remember on there own where they save/move
as in all other apps too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2005, 03:49:40 AM »

Having read through this again - I think it is all a bit of overkill and seems to be getting needlessly complicated.

Why not just have a user configuarable capture folder (as you do now) and a simple "Explore Capture Folder" option, then things can be moved at will in the browser quickly and easily!

I think sometimes enthusiasm for new bits and pieces gets the better of us all, but ScreenCaptors primary job is to capture images and it is gradually turning into a filing and graphics program too, neither of which are really needed as they can easily be done elsewhere.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2005, 08:12:08 AM »

i think carol is generally right - a central principal of sc was make sc work well with other apps, so that sc doesnt have to do everything.
so we should focus on things that are hard to do using other applications.
and i agree also that we should probably think of sc as capturing to its user-configurable directory, as a kind of working directory, and not try to make a full file browser type thing out of it.
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