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Last post Author Topic: Is Windows 10 a trojan?  (Read 7974 times)

tomos

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2016, 02:56:37 PM »
^thanks, I had thought it was a separate requirement
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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2016, 05:20:24 AM »
Today, after weeks of telling Windows to f*** off because I don't want to reboot for updates, it finally told me to go f*** myself and rebooted in the middle of me doing shit.

Windows 10 is <insert the most vile, inhuman, violent, sick, twisted, evil stuff you can possibly imagine here />.

I just have no words for how horrible this entire lunacy is. (I do have the words, but I'll spare you.)

To me it starts to look more and more like this:
Balmer...he came from the age of the standard software license. Although you shouldn't disregard those, you could. And fix those (more or less) at your leisure to get yourself out of trouble.
Nadella...he comes from the early "on-line" age and blatantly pushes for 'in your face' pop-up advertisements the whole time, creating only troubles for you.

Both are problematic, but one is much worse than the other. 2 Years in and Nadella really shows his face!

However, he forgets one thing...or didn't learn from the past. Just like in the early days of the battle between IE and FireFox, the moment pop-ups got blocked automatically by FF, it made a serious dent in the relevance/importance of IE. Granted, that started an arms race between pop-up ads and blockers, but blockers remain on the winning side.

Personally, I cannot wait until such a battle commences and proves the old adage to Nadella: 'Those who do not learn from the past, are doomed to make the same mistakes.'


Group Policy: No Auto Reboot For Logged On Users is your friend.

Gpedit.msc:
Computer Configuration
. Administrative Template
... Windows Components
..... Windows Update

^Do on local machine even in a domain environment (werked 4 me!).

For the Home Version there is a registry based equivalent (I haven't tried):

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The description of this group policy ends with the following (on my computer):
'Note: This policy applies only when Automatic Updates is configured to perform scheduled installations of updates. If the "Configure Automatic Updates" policy is disabled, this policy has no effect.'

The wording of this text does not inspire trust. To me at least.

Wouldn't it be helpful to do the following?

Gpedit.msc:
Computer Configuration
. Windows Settings
... Security Settings
..... Software Restriction Policies
....... Additional Rules

Right-click in the blank area below the two entries to create a new hash and/or path rule that 'Disallow' the execution of the GWX and related files to be executed by Windows (or any other process).

In addition you could also do:
Gpedit.msc:
Computer Configuration
. Windows Settings
... Security Settings
..... Application Control Policies
....... Applocker
......... Executable Rules

Repeat the 'Dissallow' procedure for GWX and related files here too.

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2016, 05:52:23 AM »
Wouldn't it be helpful to do the following?

Gpedit.msc:
Computer Configuration
. Windows Settings
... Security Settings
..... Software Restriction Policies
....... Additional Rules

Right-click in the blank area below the two entries to create a new hash and/or path rule that 'Disallow' the execution of the GWX and related files to be executed by Windows (or any other process).

In addition you could also do:
Gpedit.msc:
Computer Configuration
. Windows Settings
... Security Settings
..... Application Control Policies
....... Applocker
......... Executable Rules

Repeat the 'Dissallow' procedure for GWX and related files here too.

Aren't you talking about two different things here?

Renegade's problem appears to be Win10's Automatic Update mechanism in which you can defer restarts due to updates for only so long, whereas the GPEdit policies you've shown are for systems that haven't yet updated to Win10.  (Also, your method is a little hard to implement unless you're running Pro isn't it?)

Since changing the setting as stated by SJ and changing Configure Automatic Updates to Enabled (2 = Notify before downloading and installing any updates.), I now get this in the Notification Area:

2016-01-16 22_47_56.pngIs Windows 10 a trojan?

Instead of it downloading updates and then telling me it wants to restart.

Which is probably the closest I'll get to the "Notify on new updates but don't download" setting I had under Win8.1

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2016, 06:25:10 AM »
Then I think I misunderstood...sorry about that.  :-[

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2016, 12:41:33 AM »
Windows 10 is absolutely malware. 100%. No exaggeration. No hyperbole. Literal.

Yesterday Windows f*****g 10 forcibly rebooted on me for an update.

If that's not enough...

1. File extension theft

It stole numerous file associations.

2. VLC not working

And now VLC has really f****d up colours. The Microsoft software, of course, plays videos fine.

WTF?!?

And I paid for this?!?!

Some people need to go to f*****g prison for this.

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2016, 08:22:11 AM »
Windows 10, Friend or Foe - from WinPatrol

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Now, we’ve discovered yet another reason to be unhappy with Windows 10. We were receiving many reports about our products, WinAntiRansom and WinPrivacy, not starting on Windows 10 computers. When we dug into it we discovered that on many Windows 10 computers, the DCOM service was failing to start and when that happened, Windows 10 failed to even attempt to start any of the remaining scheduled services. Or, worse, the remaining services would all timeout without starting making it look as if they were in error. In addition, we have seen evidence recently that this issue is working its way into Windows 8 computers as Microsoft ports code back to the older operating systems. As of yet, we are not seeing much traffic about this issue on Windows 7.

I do hope MS won't 'reverse-innovate' this into Windows 7. It's one thing to mess up your new beta product (or whatever Win10 is), but why propagate this backwards into an earlier product that works???? Moreover, I paid real money for my Win7 retail license, so I don't appreciate MS degrading the product I have already paid for. If they mess up my Win7, that will be my last Windows product I paid for.

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2016, 02:44:37 PM »
Then I think I misunderstood...sorry about that.  :-[

That's Okay man, apparently...

Yesterday Windows f*****g 10 forcibly rebooted on me for an update.

Renegade missed my post about how to disable auto reboot too.. :D

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2016, 10:13:50 PM »
I just spent about 5 straight hours with a fresh install of Widows 10 this afternoon doing the "tech thing."

I was so completely unimpressed (when I wasn't getting completely enraged) by it that I think the last remaining and most miniscule misgiving I might have still been harboring about distancing myself from Windows has finally gotten exorcised once and for all.

To those who either choose to (or must) remain in Micro-zaftig's fold, I wish you luck.  :Thmbsup:

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Re: Is Windows 10 a trojan?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2016, 11:20:51 PM »
Yesterday Windows f*****g 10 forcibly rebooted on me for an update.

Renegade missed my post about how to disable auto reboot too.. :D

Well, to be fair to Renegade, your post was after his  :P

EDIT:  Oops! My bad, he's referring to another one  :-[
« Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 05:50:47 AM by 4wd »