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Best free firewall for Windows?
Lashiec:
Lashiec I hope you are not making fun of me by offering WF as asolution, because I said that my budget is tight this year. I see no shame involved with being under funded nowadays.
-kartal (October 23, 2009, 08:51 PM)
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Making fun of you? Absolutely not. I just recommended what I feel is an excellent firewall, since it's what I use, I have not been infected while using it and its usability is quite above anything other firewalls offer. It just happens to be included with Windows, thus being free, hence my "It totally fits your budget" comment. My apologies if I offended you.
f0dder:
PFWs do filter incoming data too, so they are firewalls.-f0dder (October 25, 2009, 08:10 AM)
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That's not the point of a firewall.
And a PFW can't filter incoming data, as it runs on the system you actually want to protect. Any packet from outside can reach your computer before the PFW actually notices it, right?
-Tuxman (October 25, 2009, 09:17 AM)
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The point of a firewall is protecting machine(s) from network-based attacks, and PFWs (and Windows' builtin firewall) do that just fine - as long as the TCP/IP stack isn't seriously flawed, it doesn't matter much if you drop packets at the gateway or the individual machines, really. The focus is not exposing ports you don't want exposed, and possibly some SPI as well. Also, keep in mind that a gateway firewall only protects against WAN-originating attacks, not LAN-originating... even with a powerful gateway firewall with SPI and whatnot, I'd still be running Windows firewall (or iptables/ipfw/whateveryourOSofchoicehas) on the client machines.
Not all who are into illegal stuff trust keygen.exe. I almost don't use such things any more, but when I did arming computer with "firewall" was considered common sense among those who did not just click, click.-Bamse (October 25, 2009, 09:25 AM)
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If you don't trust keygen.exe, you're a moron for running it on your machine - a VM beats outgoing filtering any time any day.
Same goes for illegal software, if done right - and if even possible to avoid risk that way.-Bamse (October 25, 2009, 09:41 AM)
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Why should anyone try illegal software at all?-Tuxman (October 25, 2009, 09:49 AM)
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Not everybody is stinking rich or idealist.
Bamse:
The cool stuff is typically expensive Tuxman. Games, Adobe, MS. Fast internet make it easy. Most do not know much about free or fairly priced alternatives either. Most do not think more of software industry than music/film industry. Everything goes territory, no feeling of harming anyone = easy to justify. Irresponsible youth? There must be some sociological books about this you can read 8) Fact is it is very common. I know some people who have no idea of p2p, but they do have illegal Windows, Office etc. Got it from the guy they bought computer from. Office is even on a dvd. 1 download can spread out.
There are different levels of trust f0dder, we are talking of how likely it is X cause problems. To not use it at all is safe but alternative is not necessarily to go click, click - ooops, I never saw that coming!
Tuxman:
Not everybody is stinking rich or idealist.-f0dder (October 25, 2009, 10:10 AM)
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Most "pirated" software is something you don't need. You see, people say "hm, I want to edit my holiday pictures, so I'll pirate Photoshop". You use three or four editing functions, nothing else. So why the hell do you want to pirate it? Because you can? Come on...
The same applies to other apps. Can you tell me one application which is urgently important for you and too expensive to buy?
The cool stuff is typically expensive Tuxman. Games, Adobe, MS.-Bamse (October 25, 2009, 10:13 AM)
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Adobe is not cool, Adobe is bloated crap. I don't know any home user who really needs their stuff.
MS? 100 bucks, not really much, is it?
Games? Which kind of games costs too much for you?
Most do not know much about free or fairly priced alternatives either.-Bamse (October 25, 2009, 10:13 AM)
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Of course they do, it's just that they don't want to use them. It's more "cool" to say "lol I own Photoshop y00!" instead of "hi I use GIMP" or something. However, I can't get it why anyone has to pirate these apps. I am a proud Open Source and Freeware user and even own some legally bought licenses for a couple of applications (I even spent some money for the Vim developer).
f0dder:
Let's get the focus back on firewalls, shall we? The software-pricing-whatever thing might be an interesting discussion, but it's pretty OT... and it's been done a zillion times before, anyway.
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