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Carol Haynes:
Where do Apple get off ...

I just updated to iTunes 7.0.1 and was astonished to discover an "iTunes Outlook Addin" had appeared in Outlook !! In Outlook I removed the addin only to find the next time I started iTunes it reinstalled it !! I guess it is to sync Oultook data with an iPod but given that I don't have (or want) an iPod what is the point of an extra addin loading every time I check my emails?

Not only that having deleted the unwanted icon on my desktop it placed a new icon on my desktop.

Surely they could have a few options during installtion so that you can choose the features you need to load!

Darwin:
This is my main beef with iTunes - Apple's insistence that the ipodservice run every time I open iTunes AND the fact that I have to manually kill the service as it doesn't close when I close iTunes. I don't own an mp3 player, let alone an ipod, and I do not need this service. Disabling it, setting it to manual - none of it works (i.e. it starts with iTunes anyway)! Carol - you've prompted me to go digging into the com add-ins that load with Outlook and lo and behold, there is an iTunes add-in! I'm getting ready to ditch iTunes altogether. I quite like it as a player but this is absurd.

Darwin:
UPDATE: this thread got me thinking, so I tried something I hadn't tried before - deleting the ipod folder from the program files directory. Worked like a charm - no more ipodservicer.exe running whenever I run iTunes... As for the outlook extension - I removed via Outlook-Tools-options-other-advanced-com-addins. The first time I ran Outlook afterward it whined about extend.dat not being found but restarting Outlook cleaned that up, too. I'll have to see if this "fix" survives a reboot.

These are annoyances with simple solutions. Apple should make these services and add-ins options that are configureable from with iTunes. At version 7.1, I can't believe that they are still doing this...

JavaJones:
iTunes is a piece of crap, come on guys. ;) Get Winamp, a few plugins, and the iTunes skin and you're set. More functionality, lower resource use, and a better all around player. The only thing you can't do it in is buy from the iTunes store. If that's what you like to do, you're sunk. Oh not because you can't do it through Winamp, but because you've been buying into their propreitary DRM'd junk all this time. ;)

Seriously though this is just business as usual for Apple. They always know what's best for their customers, and that's why so many of their sheep love them to death. They evidently can't - or don't want to have to - think for themselves. Apple thinks I need to have Outlook sync with my iPod? Sure, sounds great! Apple thinks I need the Yahoo Toolbar with Quicktime? Yes sir! Apple thinks allowing other players to play Quicktime files legally would be bad, well I won't use any other player, no sir! Even though the official Quicktime player is slow and bloated on the PC. No sir! :P

It really does amaze me how much crap people will put up with from Apple before they move on. I honestly think there are lots of other equally good or better solutions out there for most of Apple's products. Their iLife software may be the notable exception - there are few home movie editor applications that match iMovie anyway. But aside that, I'm not impressed. At least they're finally selling their hardware at reasonable prices though.

- Oshyan

Carol Haynes:
The problem is that I have hundreds of tracks that I got free from iTunes store and a few that I have bought because they weren't available elsewhere (so they are DRMed). To be honest I am almost at the point of simply burning all the DRM stuff to CD and then ripping them back as MP3 - OK so you lose a few bits in the move but who cares (especially when I am listening to them on a noisy PC anyway).

I tried WinAmp a while ago and didn't really get on with it that much (couldn't quite see the point) but I do have WMP 10 and Creative MediaSource installed either of which makes a pretty good noise - though of the two I prefer WMP as it is a bit simpler to use.

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