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Author Topic: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2  (Read 3745 times)

zridling

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Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« on: August 25, 2006, 10:17:06 PM »
The Office 2007 ribbon has been memed to death by now, but how can you lie about something so obvious as the size of the ribbon as Marc Orchant seems to do? It ain't smaller! Here's more on the subject in response to March Orchant's claim (lie!) that it takes up 5-8 pixels less than the Office 2003 toolbar. See for yourself and ask what he's looking at:

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Thank goodness I can hide that ridiculous monstrosity. As for Office 2007's keyboard shortcuts, this is the mess they created:

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« Last Edit: August 25, 2006, 10:19:13 PM by zridling »

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 02:13:52 AM »
The more I see & hear about Office 2007, the more I want to hang on to my Office 97, 602 Pro, Wordpad, and/or MS Works 8.

And it's so blue.  :down:

(blue used to be my fav color till I got Windows 98...too many BSOD's have made me hate the color ever since)

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 04:03:54 PM »
You can change it to black or silver, and I think when it's released, several other colors.

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2006, 05:26:05 PM »
Those screens look pretty ugly :-s

I'm holding on to my Office2000... one of the better versions, pretty fast even on my old pmmx-200/64meg (and on that hardware, you can REALLY feel how sluggish OpenOffice is >_<).
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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2006, 06:03:53 PM »
Except for live preview, I've yet to see any real advantage to Office 2007, which obscures the programs' power features. Been using the beta since it was released and god I hate the freakin' ribbon. It's like computing for 5-year-olds.

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 07:06:35 AM »
Funny how working with something can be so different from watching it work.

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 01:50:05 AM »
Touchè, mrainey, touchè! But you have to throw me a bone on both sources — myself (completely unreliable) and MicroSuck, er, Microsoft (proven instigator and daily agitator).  :Thmbsup:

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 06:52:27 AM »
Keep on doing what you do Zaine, we all benefit from it.

I use UltraEdit for writing, paste into Word 97 for any needed formatting.  Don't need no stinking ribbons!
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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2006, 07:01:01 AM »
(blue used to be my fav color till I got Windows 98...too many BSOD's have made me hate the color ever since)

Hahaha~! Yep... That it did a LOT!

My only BSOD's on my dev box (Windows 2003) are... Hmmm... Sounds like a post worth of profanity! :)

But BSOD's are rare other than that (except for every time I try to install some Creative drivers). So I just don't use that software anymore.

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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2006, 08:02:05 AM »
Hmm, a CD/DVD recorder causing BSODs? Sounds like a flawed drive that can't handle large DMA buffers.

And Creative drivers... uh-fscking-oh. Real crap.
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Re: Ribbon vs. Toolbar, round 2
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2006, 01:52:35 AM »
Thanks Michael. Since version 9 of UltraEdit, it's my primary "word" processor. I cajoled Ian (UltraEdit's developer for those who don't know) into adding and keeping a few text/writer-friendly features in the program. Like you, I compose everything from emails to Word docs to reviews to code in UltraEdit, and then just cut and paste into the container app.