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Author Topic: Good video on climbing Mt Everest  (Read 407 times)

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Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« on: December 03, 2018, 05:02 PM »
One of my favorite books is Into Thin Air, about a serious tragedy on Mt Everest: https://www.amazon.c...saster/dp/0385494785

Here's a nice video talking about the logistics of climbing Mt Everest:
« Last Edit: December 03, 2018, 05:13 PM by mouser »

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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 11:35 PM »
Off topic: You keep posting videos of things that I've either already seen recently (such as those speedrun history videos) or videos that YouTube keeps recommending to me. So either YouTube is just pushing the same videos to everyone, or you and I seem to have similar tastes in videos. :Thmbsup:

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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 11:39 PM »
So either YouTube is just pushing the same videos to everyone, or you and I seem to have similar tastes in videos
i suspect some combination of the two.

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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 08:34 AM »
interesting video

One of my favorite books is Into Thin Air, about a serious tragedy on Mt Everest: https://www.amazon.c...saster/dp/0385494785
re the book:
I've read about it before -- that he gives another guide a lot of the blame and accepts none for himself. The other guide wrote a book in response. Dont know if you knew all that (or read the other book). If the one star reviews are to be trusted though, the response book was very poorly written.
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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 06:49 PM »
and accepts none for himself.

I disagree with this -- I think he spreads the blame around quite a bit, and takes for himself a very generous helping.  No one comes away looking very good.  But the other book is worth reading too.

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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 03:07 AM »
^ thanks mouser.
People often love to come down on one side or the other (e.g. the negative reviews on amazon for either book); good to get an objective perspective.
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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 03:42 AM »
One of the things you learn from reading these books on high altitude climbing like Everest, is how the lack of oxygen at this altitude (even when using supplemental oxygen) completely messes with their brains and slows down and muddles people's thinking to the point where they are not thinking properly at all.

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Re: Good video on climbing Mt Everest
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2018, 07:19 AM »
@mouser:
One of the things you learn from reading these books on high altitude climbing like Everest, is how the lack of oxygen at this altitude (even when using supplemental oxygen) completely messes with their brains and slows down and muddles people's thinking to the point where they are not thinking properly at all.
The manifestation of that phenomenon doesn't seem to be restricted to just a very high-altitude phenomenon though, as it has also been observed and documented as happening with people who were breathing oxygen at sea-level at the time it was manifested, and even though they may have sometimes been taking an elevated "high-level view" or "helicopter view" of things.
There was a rumour going round that I read about that supposed that the problem may be genetic in some way and lay with a class of folk who were deemed to be genetically "undesirables", or something (no, I don't think it was a reference to Hitler), but I couldn't possibly comment. So, whilst high-altitude oxygen starvation or (say) any state of diminished ability to absorb oxygen at the "normal" rate of absorption may be a causal factor in muddled thinking, it's not necessarily the whole story nor the only causal factor.

It is thought (Brinkley, et al) that this strange phenomenon was originally encapsulated in about 1934 by the renowned Yorkshire pigeon fancier, ornithologist and inventor of "blogging", Prof. Fred Bloggs, who, when, attempting to discover the reason as to why some of his prize-winning homing pigeons seemed to occasionally lose their way during races and lose him the race, he declared obscurely, but (in hindsight) with penetrating insight:
"Them as is 'igh oop cannot allus see tut'way forrard clear. There's now't so queer as folk."
People initially thought that he had been referring - possibly unkindly - to the race judges who had cost him the loss of the annual Nantes - Oldham race, which he had won for 5 years running, because one of his birds was judged to have arrived a minute too late due to a timing error, but when he was later asked to explain he said:
"If'm yew got yer 'ed oop in't clouds, allus yew c'n breathe an' allus yew c'n see is tut'clouds an' when yer sh#t yew dun't know nor care 'oo it's fallin on."

On the shoulders of giants.