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wraith808:
Yesterday was apparently the #DayAgainstDRM sponsored by https://www.defectivebydesign.org/.

I understand it, and would like it better if DRM was not included, but not prepared to cancel Netflix in an attempt to get it removed, in all honesty.  Books, to me, are a different thing.  O'Reilly was a publisher that I used for my development books, along with Packtpublishing and the Pragmatic bookshelf, Manning, and Apress.  In fact, they even published a blog post on it back in 2012: http://toc.oreilly.com/2012/05/drm-free-day-forever.html.

Now, they're going against it- all books on their site are DRMd by default, as they've changed to being a platform, rather than selling their books.  When confronted with this, they said that you can purchase their books from other storefronts, but in all honesty, that's a dodge, rather than an absolute.  It might be understandable - except for the fact that PacktPub also has a platform, and still sells their books directly DRM free.

There's also on that defective by design a list of publishers that are supporting the day and discounts- got two really good books off of Pragmatic for 40% off.  Not sure when the codes expire.

Any thoughts?

app103:
Now, they're going against it- all books on their site are DRMd by default, as they've changed to being a platform, rather than selling their books.  When confronted with this, they said that you can purchase their books from other storefronts, but in all honesty, that's a dodge, rather than an absolute.  It might be understandable - except for the fact that PacktPub also has a platform, and still sells their books directly DRM free.
-wraith808 (July 10, 2017, 01:08 PM)
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Wait a minute... Are you saying that all ebooks sold on O'Reilly's site now contain DRM? Including ebooks originating from other publishers?

In other words, is there a fundamental difference between the ebooks sold on this page of O'Reilly's site and the DRM free ones sold here, on the publisher's site?

Attronarch:
I just logged into my account at https://www.oreilly.com/ and downloaded PDFs, haven't seen any DRM.

wraith808:
I just logged into my account at https://www.oreilly.com/ and downloaded PDFs, haven't seen any DRM.
-Attronarch (July 12, 2017, 05:36 AM)
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Your current files are fine.  But try to find one to buy or purchase.  You can't.  You have to sign up for Safari.  Then once those files are downloaded they are DRM'd.  It's a subscription service (that's all they offer now), so they have to be able to revoke your access.

Now, they're going against it- all books on their site are DRMd by default, as they've changed to being a platform, rather than selling their books.  When confronted with this, they said that you can purchase their books from other storefronts, but in all honesty, that's a dodge, rather than an absolute.  It might be understandable - except for the fact that PacktPub also has a platform, and still sells their books directly DRM free.
-wraith808 (July 10, 2017, 01:08 PM)
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Wait a minute... Are you saying that all ebooks sold on O'Reilly's site now contain DRM? Including ebooks originating from other publishers?

In other words, is there a fundamental difference between the ebooks sold on this page of O'Reilly's site and the DRM free ones sold here, on the publisher's site?
-app103 (July 12, 2017, 03:45 AM)
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Indeed.  You can no longer purchase files from Oreilly.  Only rent them.

app103:
Indeed.  You can no longer purchase files from Oreilly.  Only rent them.
-wraith808 (July 12, 2017, 08:02 AM)
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Holy cow! They don't even sell print editions any more! I wonder how that is going to play out with publishers that have print on demand contracts with them, such as SitePoint. As far as I know, they have not contacted us to inform us that we have to start referring our print customers elsewhere (such as Amazon). Thanks for letting me know.

Where can I buy the videos, ebooks, and print books from O’Reilly and the other publishers that are on shop.oreilly.com?

You can buy all of the books (ebooks and print) at shop.oreilly.com from Amazon and other digital and bricks-and-mortar retailers. We're no longer selling individual books and videos via shop.oreilly.com—but we are definitely continuing to publish books and videos on the topics you need to know. And of course, every O’Reilly book and video (including O’Reilly conference sessions) is available instantly on Safari.-http://shop.oreilly.com/category/customer-service/faq.do
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