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Windows XP Myths
dk70:
I suggest you check out F0dders link before you get impressed with "knowledge". And re-read this thread again nudone, obvious who is attacking who and most definitely who is for the xxxxth twisting argumentes and stated facts, like my poor old certified by Microsoft WDM driver. Point is there is no room for disagreement with this guy, exactly the point. Check F0dders tons of links again, same story everywhere. Impressed with his spamming to own site and linkage to his many "sources" is irelevant, or should be. The old wise man approach dont work either. You do realize Im now supposed to explain why WinME gave problems to many unknowlegable users (including myself of course) and explain their knee-jerk reactions, right? We are now not focusing on the WinME release, driver support, need for WinME, history of WinME etc. but stupid crybabies on forum. Of course we are. Can you spot the tactics by any chance? If you dont wish to take sides then dont.
Only people Ive ever seen padding his back are those who live out their inner troll through him or somehow see entertainment value in a thread/debate which ALWAYS will digress into this. And so he eventually end up with warnings and bans - 1+1 is 2. Simply stating facts which can be verified.
I just gave you direct qoutes from ADM and Moderator from Avast forum Mastertech. Zig-zag away, these are the facts. If I bothered I could find many more of same type but your breaking of every forum rule imaginable and general behavior is fully documented. I doubt very much ADM here should give thumbs up to that.
I dont think I should talk about another forum member like this - unless Im right.
Mastertech:
I suggest you check out F0dders link before you get impressed with "knowledge". And re-read this thread again nudone, obvious who is attacking who and most definitely who is for the xxxxth twisting argumentes and stated facts, like my poor old certified by Microsoft WDM driver. Point is there is no room for disagreement with this guy, exactly the point. Check F0dders tons of links again, same story everywhere. Impressed with his spamming to own site and linkage to his many "sources" is irelevant, or should be. The old wise man approach dont work either. You do realize Im now supposed to explain why WinME gave problems to many unknowlegable users (including myself of course) and explain their knee-jerk reactions, right? We are now not focusing on the WinME release, driver support, need for WinME, history of WinME etc. but stupid crybabies on forum. Of course we are. Can you spot the tactics by any chance? If you dont wish to take sides then dont.-dk70 (October 15, 2006, 06:06 AM)
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Funny I can't find any links from Fodder to back up his dispute with the XP Myths page, he mentioned a book that doesn't even mention the setting he was referring to by his own admission. Yet I provide direct links to Microsoft Knowledgebase articles and those are to be just brushed aside?
And no you already clearly explained you don't know who to blame for your problem which was Creative Labs. Many more unknowledgeable users who frequent forums had the same problems yet all those who followed their OEMs and Microsoft's advice didn't have problems. Coincidence? I think not. What tactics? Are you implying something? I sure did not bring up ME as you can clearly see. The only tactics I see is when people can't back up what they claim they lash out with personal attacks.
Only people Ive ever seen padding his back are those who live out their inner troll through him or somehow see entertainment value in a thread/debate which ALWAYS will digress into this. And so he eventually end up with warnings and bans - 1+1 is 2. Simply stating facts which can be verified.-dk70 (October 15, 2006, 06:06 AM)
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What is you obsession with labeling me as a "troll", actually Fodder started that when he couldn't defend his argument and resorted to stating that Microsoft does not know what it is talking about with it's own operating systems. I think it is sad that once you get beat in the technical argument you choose to try and personally attack someone.
I just gave you direct qoutes from ADM and Moderator from Avast forum Mastertech. Zig-zag away, these are the facts. If I bothered I could find many more of same type but your breaking of every forum rule imaginable and general behavior is fully documented. I doubt very much ADM here should give thumbs up to that.-dk70 (October 15, 2006, 06:06 AM)
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The moderators at the Avast Forums don't know how to moderate, instead of removing the personal attacks posts they resorted to deleting all of mine. That is not how you moderate, you don't punish the victim simply because a few people don't like you. Please look for more if you are so confident. You have already made these unsubstantiated claims. What is "breaking a forum fule"? Posting or replying to a topic and then trying to rationally discuss it? Or is it clearly explaining how a feature of XP works with documented sources? Please tell me what that is? Apparently slandering someone by labeling them a troll and then making more slanderous statements you are unable to substantiate is "within forum rules". Why are so afraid of hearing what I have to say? Why are all the Firefox Fanboys so afraid? That is the real question.
I dont think I should talk about another forum member like this - unless Im right.-dk70 (October 15, 2006, 06:06 AM)
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How much money do I win if I bet you use Firefox?
mouser:
dk70 you had to stir up the pot again just when it was cooling down..
this post has gotten needlessly personal,though there are still some interesting technical arguments going on.
the regular members here are the ones who should be asking themselves why they are getting all worked up about posts.
you should know by now that someone is going to step in and remind new posters that we try to be more respectful and polite here, and you should know by now that the way we deal with such situations is by treating people who we believe may be crossing the line with the respect we want them to show in kind. that's the way this forum works. if you think someone is out of line, then you don't start engaging in name calling, you politely point out that we try to be more respectfull here and in your reply they will see that it is true.
there's no danger of this forum degerating into flame wars, so if you see someone acting out of line, you don't have to engage in a heated battle to the death with them. especially new visitors. just show them by example that we take a different tone on this forum. in time they will either realize that they like the way we do things, and tone down their approach, or they will decide they don't want to be part of the discussions, or in the worst cases we may have to ask someone to leave, but there's no need to go to defcon 1 at the first sign of trouble.
so let's take a deep breath and return to normality.
I really think that f0dder and dk70 could have taken this opportunity to demonstrate more restraint and set a better example - come on guys, lead by example! And Mastertech I would also ask you to try to express your opinions in a more respectfull way as well, even if you feel like someone is not correct in what they are saying.
Mastertech:
Wait a minute now I remember and now I understand what your problem is. dk70 you tried arguing with me about how Windows Prefetching works and why the setting in CCleaner was useless and did nothing but REDUCE performance by cleaning the folder. You didn't understand how Windows Prefetching worked or what the problem was with the CCleaner setting. I remember now... guess what CCleaner finally moved the useless clean "Old Prefetch Data" option to the advanced section and disabled it by default because I was right. Need I say more?
dk70:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mastertech+troll is f0dders link.
My other link is outdated yet show enough, more forums have him in "banned" group now.
Getting closer nudone? If so you are welcome...
Am I blind or did f0dder edit/delete one of his post? I send him a PM which he quoted here. Which is only reason why I jumped in - would love not to. As said ALWAYS the same outcome. I told him not to go infight with this dude because that and link-spamming is only motive as has been seen on majority of all techy sites you know of! For years even, hence the milelong list of bans and warnings. Again stating facts anyone can verify, not personal attacks. Not relevant - or is it? His last trick, as you can see, is just to turn all arguments into "personal attacks" which he then expect to be saved from. Might even turn to moderator asking for help! Same old MT game. Anyway, feel free to quote it again f0dder, all considered I couldnt care less - though next time ask first. Not entirely pleased seeing my PM in public, ok exception from the rule though.
True about Avast ADM and moderators - they should have banned you long ago. I told you they would already in 2005! Can see it miles away. Sadly you have the ability to drag some down to your level, possibly getting them into trouble, and generally taking advantage of the "good spirit", like here. Why my PM to f0dder which I sensed where obvious target since he dont submit and know too much...
Opposite you MT I did investigate features and details of prefetching, only you make a big deal of it. I gave you links to plenty of MS sources even.
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