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Last post Author Topic: Arizona sunsets  (Read 163179 times)

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2017, 07:59 PM »
05-28-17 Sunrise ghost mountains.jpgArizona sunsets

The sunrise mountains were so bright and white this morning I wasn't sure anything would be seen in the shots. They can be(I think the camera processed the pictures so something could be seen). Definitely an  example of High Dynamic Range, I think. Anyone want to disagree? They were taken around 6:20 AM here. My second page? Should I be celebrating?

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2017, 12:58 AM »
^^ That's similar to your sunrise "Shadowed Mountains" shot, earlier. I guess lots of haze (humid air) makes for that kind of effect.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2017, 04:22 PM »
^^ That's similar to your sunrise "Shadowed Mountains" shot, earlier. I guess lots of haze (humid air) makes for that kind of effect.

Entirely possible. We have had a lot of clouds recently(including now). I thought it was a light effect, but I guess humid air is a more likely answer. It still is an interesting picture. Thank you for your idea.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2017, 09:04 PM »
^^ Well, it would be a kinda "light effect". We naturally "see" things by their reflected light (except when looking at unnatural light-emitting sources, such as a video display, for example). The light from the low (rising) sun in this case is being bounced around haphazardly by reflection/refraction via the zillions of small drops of water (mist) which have condensed in the cold/dense early morning atmosphere. Some of that bounced light comes towards the viewer as just white light, partially obscuring the reflected light from the objects (mountains) behind the mist, like a natural veil. The effect dissipates as the air and moisture is warmed up by the sun, and the moisture evaporates.

At those times, depending on air temperature, there are different layers or thicknesses of such haze "veils" through which the reflected light from the mountains has to travel to get to your eye and the camera lens. The effect on the view of the mountains in your shots is quite beautiful, with the shy mountains furthest away being more demure and obscured (with a thicker veil) than those brazen wenches nearer (with a thinner veil). The white haze is like visual "noise". I've been inside that kind of haze/mist in freezing high alpine conditions, and the visual effect can sometimes be far from beautiful. When it is very dense, one literally cannot see anything - no reference point - so which way is up/down is unknown, because it is a visual "whiteout". Extremely disorientating - and potentially highly dangerous. A fog.

Similarly, a rainbow is a light effect when the sunlight gets refracted and split into its constituent colours (a prismatic effect) by the zillions of small drops of water in the atmosphere. The result is seen as a circular rainbow - per the sun - from an aircraft flying above, and as a partial circular rainbow from the ground.

If I have the time, I could happily watch the changing light on mountains all day long (preferably accompanied by a crate of beer and some BBQ meat). From experience though, sadly the best shots are usually those ephemeral ones captured by the senses - via the eyes - and photographs unfortunately tend to run a poor second to those. Which is a good reason for putting down the camera and just watching. Try telling that to Japanese tourists though...

But I do appreciate being able to view "your" mountains, from somewhere else halfway around the world.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2017, 09:15 PM »
DSC00471.JPGArizona sunsets    DSC00528.JPGArizona sunsets    DSC00527.JPGArizona sunsets

Fire on the mountain and fire on the mountain at night!

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Fire on the mountain update.
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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2017, 10:33 PM »
A comparison of the same sunset by both cameras.

GEDC2633.JPGArizona sunsets     DSC00477.JPGArizona sunsets

            GE J1470S                         Sony DSC-HX20V

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Sunset parallels

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2017, 10:42 PM »
06-26-17 Mountain with less fire.jpgArizona sunsets

The mountains are not burning now. The rain yesterday probably had a lot to do with that, so any haze or vapor here is probably just moisture from low clouds.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2017, 12:07 AM »
Very nice. Thanks. Was showing this to my 6¾ y/o son. He likes it too.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2017, 12:26 AM »
Very nice. Thanks. Was showing this to my 6¾ y/o son. He likes it too.

Unfortunately, a second look shows some fire still there. I hope they get rid of that.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2017, 10:15 PM »
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Big sun sunset without clouds.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 10:02 PM »
My latest set of big sun sunset pictures.

DSC00550.JPGArizona sunsets   DSC00551.JPGArizona sunsets   DSC00553.JPGArizona sunsets


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2017, 11:47 AM »
Unfortunately, a second look shows some fire still there. I hope they get rid of that.

07-20-17 Clouds on the mountain .jpgArizona sunsets

Clouds on the mountain, not smoke. The monsoon rains doused the fire again.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2017, 11:55 AM »
07-20-17 Clouds on the mountain 2.jpgArizona sunsets

Another view of those mountains. I had to put it in a separate post because of the size of the panoramas.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2017, 12:34 PM »
I think the clouds / smoke / fog make the best photos of the hills :up:
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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2017, 10:28 PM »
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A dramatic sunset?


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2017, 10:32 AM »
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A triple-colored cloud.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2017, 12:18 AM »
08-13-17 Sitting clouds.jpgArizona sunsets

Taken in town this morning(Arizona time, yesterday DonationCoder time).
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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2017, 02:17 AM »
I thought the "triple-colored cloud" was kinda special, but the "sitting cloud" is most unusual, because the depth differential is provided by the sitting clouds - not the natural light-and-shadow (as in earlier shots of that range of mountains).

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2017, 11:57 AM »
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I thought this was a nice sunset, even if it wasn't spectacular.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2017, 12:19 AM »
09-09-17 Bright pyramid .jpgArizona sunsets    09-09-17 Clouds.jpgArizona sunsets

Storm clouds today.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2017, 09:39 PM »
Mushroom cloud sunset.jpgArizona sunsets    DSC00730.JPGArizona sunsets

The left picture is how it looked to me. The right picture looks more dramatic.


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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2017, 04:15 AM »
The left picture is how it looked to me. The right picture looks more dramatic.

presuming they were taken about the same time: what was the difference when taking the pictures - i.e. how did you make one darker?
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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2017, 03:56 PM »
You do that by pointing the camera at a slightly different place. I do this until I get something I like to get a picture that looks like what I want to see. The camera tends to produce orange sunsets if you don't do this. See pictures in #30, #34 and #35 for examples.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2017, 04:55 PM »
You do that by pointing the camera at a slightly different place. I do this until I get something I like to get a picture that looks like what I want to see. The camera tends to produce orange sunsets if you don't do this. See pictures in #30, #34 and #35 for examples.

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Re: Arizona sunsets
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2017, 08:59 PM »
DSC00737.JPGArizona sunsets    GEDC2662.JPGArizona sunsets

         Sony DSC-HX20V                          GE J1470S

The Sony picture is way too orange, but I couldn't get it to be less so. The GE picture is much closer to what I saw, but still too orange. I would have taken more GE pictures, but the battery ran out of power.
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