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nosh:
Thanks for the input Innuendo!

Big mistake...they have taken a "How the heck is this going to work?" concept and turned it into something that is definitely worth watching. I was very surprised.

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I have way too much on my plate right now (not just TV shows) but I won't discount the show as you've suggested, I'll watch the pilot and decide.

Don't know if my reply will reach you in time to save you. Most of the promo material for the show leaves out the "Harlequin Romance Novel" parts of the plot-line. Then again...maybe you like romance novels? :)

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You got here on time. I haven't ever read a romance novel *raises hand solemnly* but I'll confess, I don't mind watching the genre (preferably something that doesn't have Tom Hanks in it. ;D)

TaoPhoenix:
Speaking of Forever, there's some weird stuff going on (lately?) with IMDB. It's (beginning?) to have colossal gaps in who plays what role. But besides the X Files that I surveyed last week, I'm suddenly discovering blatant holes in new shows too, like Forever.

I hadn't looked at this show in a while, until reminded by it in this thread. I'd forgotten about it for no real reason, just life marching on and such.

But I'd vaguely remembered that Adrian Pasdar of Heroes was the "anonymous caller" aka "Adam" (and some con-cover character roles etc.)

But watch this!

Adrian Pasdar's IMDB (as it stands now)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0664499/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
No mention of Forever

Forever Pilot on IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3776146/?ref_=ttep_ep1
No mention of the caller, A. P. or otherwise.

But look! It's on Wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Pasdar

"Forever" Wiki
http://forever.wikia.com/wiki/Forever

Misc io9 Article about this, with him on it:
http://io9.com/for-its-greatest-hits-of-murder-episode-forever-mana-1649247743

So what's with this? Are some actors able to contact IMDB and get themselves taken off of listings there?!

It's *possible* this was a mistake that traveled along the web, but you'd think a famous actor's agency would go after this all and fix it.

I thought IMDB used to be pretty good, but I'm starting to have serious doubts about it now! : (

Renegade:
It really doesn't matter about the blessing of the liberties.  It's the nature of the liberties in and of themselves.  I was going to avoid bringing them up, but others have said the same things that have struck me over time in a much better way than I, so I'll just leave this here:

https://stevenbarneslife.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/why-walking-dead-is-dead-to-me/

I'm not expecting understanding- one needs to be in the situation to understand it to an extent.  It's just pervasive and I feel it, so it is affecting my enjoyment of it.  And this isn't the only person that has noticed it- and from a very different perspective because they didn't really 'get' it, other than the fact that it exists.
-wraith808 (March 29, 2015, 12:51 PM)
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I was curious why you weren't enjoying TWD, so I read the article.

I noticed that a long time ago. It's one of the ways I "predict" what's going to happen in a series/film. There aren't many shows that have real surprises -- they're often formulaic in one way or another.

There are a lot of common themes in movies and TV shows, and they "cue you in" on one level or another as to what is going to happen. I doubt most people ever notice any of them, and I'm sure there are more that I'm unaware of.

There are things that used to bother me. I just try to ignore them now. Or, if it's too much, I just don't watch, e.g. I just can't watch CSI or NCIS.

TaoPhoenix:

"Character role of race in media" is one of those awful "super entrenched meta issues" that for ex could take another 100 years to begin fixing!

To me it's a bit like how Microsoft used a bunch of dirty tricks to become the eternal "metagame" in the desktop OS world.

wraith808:
There are things that used to bother me. I just try to ignore them now. Or, if it's too much, I just don't watch, e.g. I just can't watch CSI or NCIS.
-Renegade (March 31, 2015, 03:41 AM)
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I *love* science fiction and fantasy, and want to be a published writer.  Which is one of the reasons that when I can't stop ignoring it, it hurts even more.

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