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Last post Author Topic: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.20 Beta - Aug 20, 2018  (Read 67180 times)

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 03:29 PM »
If an app installed on multiple devices wants to keep sync'd between multiple devices, it has to write some real code to merge changes and keep files synchronized, etc.
You could, presumably, manually sync with Dukto over a LAN (local WiFi in my case).

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2016, 01:45 AM »
(1) When one edits an entry, one finds the dates presented in US format.  I would much prefer them to be in ISO format, that being the clearest, least ambiguous, and most suited to a program that may be used internationally.
(2) It's possible to edit a date and time manually - and the field accepts any old garbage, there doesn't seem to be any error-trapping.  You also allow use of the standard Android date-picker.  Is there any reason not to make that mandatory, i.e., remove manual editing?  If you do that, for consistency there would have to be a time-picker as well.

1: in the advanced options you can change the format of the displayed date and time to make it how you want it.

2: this is trickier.. right now the date history is basically free form multi-line text where no formatting is enforced.  i choose that for simplicity.  but perhaps ideally it would enforce a specific strict list format.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2016, 02:46 PM »
1: in the advanced options you can change the format of the displayed date and time to make it how you want it.
Thanks, I didn't know that.  But, I must be missing something, because it doesn't work for me:
WhenLast_2016-09-11_202831.jpgWhenLast (Android app) - v2.20 Beta - Aug 20, 2018
This is even after rebooting the device (Asus MemoPad 7, ME173X, Android 4.2.2).  Perhaps an explanation of the tokens and format is in order, at least as a link to somewhere?

2: this is trickier.. right now the date history is basically free form multi-line text where no formatting is enforced.  i choose that for simplicity.  but perhaps ideally it would enforce a specific strict list format.
Were you to decide to give WhenLast statistics, it would be necessary to enforce the correct data format.  Maybe it's a nice idea that's not worth the bother of doing.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2016, 03:50 PM »
changing the options wont change past history text, only the dates shown on the live items (and possibly subsequent date history entries, not sure about that).

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2016, 04:27 PM »
changing the options wont change past history text, only the dates shown on the live items (and possibly subsequent date history entries, not sure about that).
Dates on live items now display correctly with token string yyyy-MM-dd; I didn't think past history items would be changed.  I confirm it doesn't change new entries, they are still in US format.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2016, 03:46 AM »
Version 1.96 beta - Sep 26, 2015 - link added to first post.
Will be on Google Play Store soon.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2016, 10:50 AM »
Mouser, I downloaded the .apk and tried to install it as an update to my current wonderful When Last.  However, though I was told that my existing data will not be lost, it went on to ask whether the updated app will get access to New or All.  I'm supposed to choose, but I've got no idea what that means.  It was set by default on New, but that seemed to suggest that the app wouldn't have access to everything on the app, just new stuff.  The instructions thus seem contradictory, at least to my feeble brain.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2016, 01:11 PM »
im not sure what that is all about but im guessing the problem is all because you installed the real copy through the official play store and this is an unofficial beta.  let me upload this to the play store and then youll be able to upgrade seamlessly.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2016, 03:54 PM »
Thanks, mouser!  I think you've probably identified the source of the problem.  I'll just wait until the new version is in the Play Store.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2016, 05:28 AM »
Can you see if this works for you, beta tester access for whenlast:
https://play.google....nationcoder.whenlast

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2016, 09:51 AM »
Thanks, mouser.  Even though I was already enrolled as a beta tester, I clicked on the Become a Tester button and got a screen telling me I am now a tester.  It also said that if I already have the WL app installed (which, of course, I do), I'll get an update with the testing version shortly.  It hasn't happened yet, but I just did all this a couple of minutes ago.   We'll see.  I'll report back.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2016, 09:55 AM »
OK, got the notification from Play Store and have now installed the beta update.  Many thanks!

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2016, 08:16 PM »
cool.

some new features include the ability to set a custom title for your widgets (or remove title completely), some optimizations that should speed up synchronization and better error handling for that, lots of little bugfixes.  new menu items for deleting/resetting all entries in current section.  new option to enable a "ViewAll" button that lets you quickly toggle hidden items on and off along with the edit buttons, and an indicator to show when you are looking at a hidden item.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2016, 06:52 PM »
I've finally accepted that WhenLast (and my other android apps) look terrible and are basically unusable on a small portrait oriented phone.  I will now try to fix.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2016, 01:34 AM »
The new beta uploaded to play store (v1.97) now should display much better on small screens.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2016, 12:51 PM »
It does look much better now (Samsung S7, Samsung SII)  :Thmbsup:

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2016, 04:28 PM »
Thanks, Chris!

For the curious, here's a comparison between a screen large enough for WhenLast to run in 2 column data mode vs. the new one-column data mode for small screens:

Normal 2-columns for label and last date:
Screenshot - 9_29_2016 , 4_26_40 PM.pngWhenLast (Android app) - v2.20 Beta - Aug 20, 2018


New single column (2 row) smaller text layout for small screens:
Screenshot - 9_29_2016 , 4_26_28 PM.pngWhenLast (Android app) - v2.20 Beta - Aug 20, 2018

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2016, 06:36 PM »
Yes, I really like the changes you've made for displaying on small screens!  And it may be my imagination, but it seemed to me that the syncing went a bit faster.  However, there's one strange thing with the syncing.  Everything synced beautifully and quickly except for one item.  I have an item called Charged Phone which--surprise, surprise--helps me keep track of when I last charged my cell phone.  For some reason, that date should have changed, but it didn't.  I'm not sure why.  The Dropbox sync was said to be complete on both ends.  I tried again, but still the date remained the same.  My tablet's WhenLast says correctly that I last charged the phone on Sep 27, 2016, but WhenLast on the phone says Sep 17, 2016.  Both are using the same version of WhenLast (1.99).

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2016, 08:09 PM »
Hmm.. that's unpleasant.

If there is nothing sensitive in your whenlast lists, what you could do is open your desktop dropbox folder and find the whenlast data files for both of your devices, and mail them to me.
If there is sensitive material in them you could just open them in text editor and isolate the entries corresponding to phone charging and send those to me.
([email protected]).

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2016, 04:12 PM »
Thanks, mouser.  I've just sent you an email with what I hope is the right info.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2016, 11:29 PM »
Version 2.01 beta - Sep 30, 2016
  • NewFeature: You can now sort on various fields.
  • Improvement: New view submenu (no more ViewAll button)
  • Miscelaneous fixes

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2016, 08:14 AM »
Beta uploaded; the widgets should be slightly more resource friendly.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.01 Beta - Sep 30, 2016
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2016, 06:08 AM »
So good to see that this is alive!

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.12 Beta - Dec 8, 2016
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2016, 12:43 PM »
Version 2.12 beta - Dec 8, 2016
  • Feature: Lastitem widget now has option to display item and date on separate lines.
  • BugFix: ALL Section was not always being displayed when it should be.
  • Improvement: Widget timer update improvements (and new option)
  • BugFix: Long-click drag-and-drop was not working on some items (thanks ewemoa!)
  • Improvement: Notices (reminders, etc., shown on bottom of window) are now persistant until acknowledged.
  • Bugfixes: fixed some import bugs (thanks ewemoa!)
  • Fixed timer bugs, especially effecting the case where user has multiple widgets from same app.
  • Improvement: Widgets now default to ALL category if visible, or fallback to a sensible one.
  • Improvement: Widgets now have options for showing hidden items, empty sections, etc.
  • Improvement: Widgets now have independent option for sortmode.
  • Bugfixes: Lots of miscelaneous bugfixes.
  • Improvement: If current section becomes empty and should be hidden, it was being left onscreen after a chance in view options.

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Re: WhenLast (Android app) - v2.12 Beta - Dec 8, 2016
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2016, 01:03 PM »
Normal widget mode:
Screenshot - 12_8_2016 , 1_08_02 PM.png

New "separate-line" widget mode for small widgets:
Screenshot - 12_8_2016 , 1_04_59 PM_ver001.png