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Last post Author Topic: Windows 10 Announced  (Read 397288 times)

Deozaan

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1150 on: January 28, 2020, 07:21 PM »
Microsoft unveils Windows Terminal, a new command line app for Windows
-Arizona Hot (May 07, 2019, 08:01 AM)

For now it is just the source code, not the executable. For those already wanting this type of functionality (and then some): ExtraTerm (open source, works on Windows, Linux and Mac, supports cmd, PowerShell, WSL, tabs and 'terminal multiplexing').

Microsoft's new Windows Terminal is now available in the Store

Was cute that it was tabbed and one could choose from cmd.exe vs powershell flavors.  Definitely had rough edges though.  Not ready for general use IMHO.


Somehow I missed it both times it was mentioned in this thread, and I was just made aware of it through this video someone linked to on Twitter:



I just downloaded Windows Terminal on the Microsoft Store, where it's still in preview.

I'm not an expert on cmd.exe or PowerShell. As far as I can tell it works just like the old Command Prompt or the current PowerShell, but with the benefit of a tabbed interface. I think I'd like to continue using it, but I may forget it exists and just launch PowerShell the usual way (ctrl-shift right-click in Windows Explorer -> Open PowerShell window here).

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1151 on: February 05, 2020, 09:19 AM »
Prefer Windows 7 over Windows 10's updates_ Here's how to make the adjustment.jpgWindows 10 Announced

Prefer Windows 7 over Windows 10's updates? Here's how to make the adjustment

Are there any people here who have Win 10 and don't use Classic Shell or something like it?
« Last Edit: February 05, 2020, 09:51 AM by Arizona Hot »

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1152 on: February 05, 2020, 11:53 AM »
Are there any people here who have Win 10 and don't use Classic Shell or something like it?

Me.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1153 on: February 05, 2020, 12:18 PM »
Are there any people here who have Win 10 and don't use Classic Shell or something like it?

Me.

Ditto.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1154 on: February 15, 2020, 09:13 AM »
Are there any people here who have Win 10 and don't use Classic Shell or something like it?

Me.

Ditto.

What do you use?

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1155 on: February 15, 2020, 01:52 PM »
Just the shell that comes with Windows.  It's capable enough.  For my programs, I use True Launch Bar and Fences.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1156 on: February 15, 2020, 03:34 PM »
I use Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1157 on: February 19, 2020, 10:03 AM »
I prefer the Hierarchial File System I get with Classic Shell over the flat program menu of Win 10.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1158 on: February 19, 2020, 10:06 AM »

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1159 on: February 19, 2020, 12:32 PM »
I prefer the Hierarchial File System I get with Classic Shell over the flat program menu of Win 10.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. The Windows 10 Start Menu still has a hierarchical layout like it did in Windows 7 and earlier, and AFAIK you're able to organize it however you want. It just also has a "flat" area with "tiles" you can use as shortcuts to your most used apps, which you can also customize and organize however you want.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1160 on: February 20, 2020, 04:00 AM »
The Windows 10 Start Menu still has a hierarchical layout like it did in Windows 7 and earlier, and AFAIK you're able to organize it however you want.

I can't delete any entries nor can I drag'n'drop to rearrange them - everything just gets lumped under an alphabetical order.

There appears to be no way to 'declutter' the start menu of the rubbish I don't require, (eg. Xbox Game Bar, Your phone, etc).
« Last Edit: February 20, 2020, 04:10 AM by 4wd »

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1161 on: February 20, 2020, 05:51 AM »
There appears to be no way to 'declutter' the start menu of the rubbish I don't require, (eg. Xbox Game Bar, Your phone, etc).
I could swear I just right clicked the tiles and deleted the ones like that. No, it was Unpin from Start.
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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1162 on: February 20, 2020, 10:46 AM »
Yes, you can customize the pinned tiles, but the actual menu, you can only remove sub-sections.  If I actually ever used the start menu, it would be a bit lackluster.  But I think that they're trying to get people to use search more, as when I do use the start menu, I just start typing the name of the item that I want, and it works.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1163 on: February 20, 2020, 11:58 AM »
Yes, you can customize the pinned tiles, but the actual menu, you can only remove sub-sections.  If I actually ever used the start menu, it would be a bit lackluster.  But I think that they're trying to get people to use search more, as when I do use the start menu, I just start typing the name of the item that I want, and it works.

Also sometimes when I am looking for a program shortcut in a crowded folder of them on my desktop I remember that typing the shortcut name will seek it out.  I suspect many Windows users do not realize they can do that even though there is no search box .   :Thmbsup:

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1164 on: February 20, 2020, 04:37 PM »
But I think that they're trying to get people to use search more, as when I do use the start menu, I just start typing the name of the item that I want, and it works.

That's great ... when you know the name of the program you want, (I usually do but there are some I only use once in a blue moon).

If, for example, you install a program and you file it under a menu item that says 'Video' for video editors/codecs/etc (pre-8.0), it's a lot easier to just pick Video out of the menu list and see what you want out of a list of 10 or so, rather than everything installed on the computer.

I don't want every URL/read me/EULA/the name of every software manufacturer/the postman's dog/etc that program writers seem to think I want cluttering up the menu.

Generally I use a DOpus toolbar stuck on the Desktop, FARR, or Everything, rather than the thing they currently call a Start Menu.

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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1165 on: February 21, 2020, 02:53 AM »
The Windows 10 Start Menu still has a hierarchical layout like it did in Windows 7 and earlier, and AFAIK you're able to organize it however you want.

I can't delete any entries nor can I drag'n'drop to rearrange them - everything just gets lumped under an alphabetical order.

There appears to be no way to 'declutter' the start menu of the rubbish I don't require, (eg. Xbox Game Bar, Your phone, etc).

You can no longer delete and drag'n'drop from the Start Menu to reorganize files, but you can still delete or reorganize from your AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\ and C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\ folders.

Windows Store apps are another story and do indeed just get listed alphabetically, and there seems to be no way to remove them from the Start Menu without uninstalling them. And also as you said, it seems there are some Microsoft apps that are bundled with Windows and cannot be uninstalled, such as Your Phone and the Xbox Game Bar. So there's not much that can be done about those.

But I'm with wraith808. While I do sometimes use the pinned/tiled apps, I rarely use the list of programs in the Start Menu anymore. I just press the Windows key and start typing and press enter. If the Start Menu search doesn't find what I'm looking for, I create a shortcut and give it a name I'll remember to search for and pin that shortcut to the Start Menu. And if I don't know the name of what I'm looking for, then how would I know where to find it in the Start Menu anyway? Unless of course, I've done as you suggested and manually filed it into a "Video" subfolder of the appropriate Start Menu directory as stated above.
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Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Reply #1166 on: February 21, 2020, 07:26 AM »
But I'm with wraith808. While I do sometimes use the pinned/tiled apps, I rarely use the list of programs in the Start Menu anymore. I just press the Windows key and start typing and press enter. If the Start Menu search doesn't find what I'm looking for, I create a shortcut and give it a name I'll remember to search for and pin that shortcut to the Start Menu

Same here … Hell, I forgot the list was even there I haven't used it in so long.