Actually, the following is a thread (verbatim) from the Ecco pro forum in which Vadim, the author of Taonotes is writing in response to the announcement of a new & forthcoming Ecco Pro "clone" by one of the long time Ecco Pro support experts, Phil Seeman
So you could say Taonotes it's a Ecco Pro wannabe in a sense.
Take note that Ecco Pro is an abandoned PIM (Outliner) with a cult like following despite having been abandoned close to 10 years
The posts are rather long, but it gives you an idea where TaoNotes is trying to position itself.
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I was not writting here for a relatively long time... but today
there is good reasons for that: 1) the topic that was initiated; 2)
today I am releasing new TaoNotes v3.00... so, I will use this case to
post here once... escuse me if you treat it as off-topic...
I did not change my point of view... I do not believe in
announcements about concerned forthcoming products... None of them is
being developed well... Working on the main job as IT consultant for
life-living I develop TaoNotes in my spare time... But I think it has
progess despite of it's less than a year I started to develop it...
So, I am in jeleous a bit when I see that someone announces the
new application arrival and about 100 people in the moment becomes
followers.... of nothing... and I have less then 100 followers of my
application working hard for a years...
I need a beta testers too.... I do not promise user-definable
columns in this version, nor cross-referencing items.... just working
outliner with predefined columns set...
So pardon my lirics above, I wanna inform you that there is new
New TaoNotes Pro v3.00 that delivers WYSYWYG content editing and many
outline navigation improvements. So now it's three-pane outliner with
possibility to edit and format (HTML formatting is supported) items.
to learn more....
-------------------------And here are a couple of posts by someone else responding to Vadim's post
I think the critical difference -- one you keep missing, I believe --
is that your product doesn't provide any of the core functionality of
Ecco. You've never taken the time to understand what Ecco does at its
most fundamental level, and so you product lacks any true "Ecco-ness".
For that reason, it's simply not of much interest to anyone here (I
By contrast, Phil has been an Ecco-phile for many years. He
understands inherently what Ecco does and how it does it, and he's
told us he's writing a new program to implement the basic Ecco
paradigms. Consequently, people here are interested.
You want to get people here interested in TaoNotes? Implement an
outliner coupled to an ad-hoc database, and you're half way there.
These are all very good points. In the absence of the character that Jeff
talks about, Vadim, your program becomes just another PIM.
I'm going to add another comment that I hope you will not take personally.
It is meant as constructive criticism. I belong to a number of groups that
you apparently subscribe to, most of them involving GTD. Your
self-promotion in these groups is constant. In addition, though much less
important, when I have tried to engage you directly about some of the
characteristics of the software in these forums I have received no answer.
Given the above, especially the first, your posts have taken on the
characteristics of popup ads. I believe that I can state with some
certainty that most people are ignoring them by now. Combine this with the
petulant tone of the post below, bordering on the implication that you are
being persecuted because we are not all raving about your program, and I
believe you may start to understand some of the resistance that people may
feel about getting too involved with your software. I've seen you make
other such posts in the past and I believe that I can state uncategorically
that they turn people off. I'm deeply sorry to put it that way but I
believe that it is so.
I would strongly and constructively suggest that you limit your own posts to
these groups advertising your software to major upgrades, perhaps about once
every 6 months. I would also constructively suggest that you not respond to
posts about other people's software, whether it exists or not, with
promotion of your own.