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Author Topic: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?  (Read 4303 times)

Curt

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First title was: "How can Firefox search for updates when aut updating not is enabled?", but I think this new title is more accurate.
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My Outpost Security Suite Pro 8 popped up a warning basically saying "mozilla firefox/Updater.exe is trying to do something...", and blocked the updater. I went to check my settings, because I never have auto-updating enabled in Firefox, and surely it was disabled => "Never search for updates".

But how can Firefox (24) search for updates when auto updates not is enabled?  :tellme:  
And are there other forms of "contacts" Mozilla also is lying about?

This is the first time I have this problem with Firefox. A scanning revealed no problems.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 02:01:36 AM by Curt »

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Re: How can Firefox search for updates when aut updating not is enabled?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 08:16:12 PM »
Perhaps you could check update activity via menu Tools|Option|Advanced|Update|Show Update History.
2013-11-26_090735 ff25-0-1.pngWhy is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?



Curt

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 01:50:26 AM »
-thanks, erikts, but
My Firefox Update History is of course reflecting that, automatic updating is disabled.
I have updated it 3 times: July (v22), August (v23), September (v24):

2013-11-26_084206.gif


so why did Firefox suddenly try to update nevertheless?  :tellme:
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 02:02:35 AM by Curt »

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 03:41:36 AM »
What are your settings exactly?
I get notification - have you that option enabled?

Screenshot - 2013-11-26 , 10_39_31.pngWhy is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?

if so, I would presume it's simply checking what's available.
If not...

[edit] sorry I missed that in your screenshot there Curt [/edit]
Tom
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 02:27:25 AM by tomos »

Curt

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 06:36:56 AM »
as my picture shows... I don't ask for notifications

So, "not..."  ;-)

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 08:16:08 PM »
Okay. If you don't block \Mozilla Firefox\updater.exe, perhaps you can inspect the activity via Show Update History menu or firewall log.

An old-locked thread in Mozillazine is similar to your case, OP has disable update but still saw Updater.Exe activities.

I don't know ... may be Mozilla forced you to upgrade.   :-\

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 11:48:15 PM »
Hi there,

As per me, don't look in firefox settings, you have to look for your PC settings.
There is an option in PC control panel. there is find auto update option.

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 10:16:10 AM »
... A scanning revealed no problems.

-rubbish. Back then I was only thinking about scanning, but I didn't take the time to actually do it!  :-[

Now this has turned up again:

2013-11-27_171222.gif


Please check & tell if you have a updater.exe in your Mozilla Firefox folder?  :-[

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 10:19:01 AM »
yep, i do.

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 10:20:39 AM »
thanks, mouser. Is it 266 KB (273304 byte) ?

btw:

Quote from: update-settings.ini
; If you modify this file updates may fail.
; Do not modify this file.

[Settings]
ACCEPTED_MAR_CHANNEL_IDS=firefox-mozilla-release

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 10:34:10 AM »
I have updated to version 25, so I expect the problem will be gone for a few weeks.



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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »
I had a similar thing with Opera x64 12.14.  It has check for updates on by default.  It asks me if I want to update to 12.16.  Like an idiot I click OK.  Then I cancel.  So now I have to delete the temp folder with the update or it will pop up a dialog every time I start it asking to install the downloaded update.

Anyway, I do the update, then change the setting to never check for updates.  It puts all the crap advert bookmarks I just cleaned off the toolbar back on.  Then it changes the update setting back to Check For Updates.

I see why they are going away.  The sad part is, it's the only browser out of Firefox, Waterfox or Opera that has snappy resonse on my Windows8 Laptop.

btw the editing trick still works in the bookmarks.adr file.  If you import bookmarks from Firefox, just go into bookmarks.adr and delete the entry that says Firefox folder at the top.  Now the Firefox bookmarks will be at the root.

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2013, 12:16:45 AM »
Just in case you have not already checked these fields in about:config ...
it's item 34 on this page - About:config entries - MozillaZine Knowledge Base.

Firefox - update fields in about-config.png

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2013, 07:57:47 AM »
Thanks, IainB. But I don't have any "update".
Has it been replaced by app.update?


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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2013, 08:53:49 AM »
But I don't have any "update".

me neither FWIW
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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 12:58:35 PM »
^^ Sorry about that. Maybe the clip is for an earlier (older) version of Firefox(?).

I run on the FF beta channel, and it always automatically uploaded and installed the latest ß version, but then recently the ßs started crashing a lot, so I searched for a way to block the installs, and came across a post that showed how if I changed the settings for 2 fields in about:config, then the auto-install would become "manually accept". So I did that and it worked.
However, I can't for the life of me recall what the specific settings were.    :-[
So the settings I copied above were the best that I could come up with.

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2013, 04:37:06 PM »
Has it been replaced by app.update?

Yes, app.update.* - see here.

Check:
app.update.auto
app.update.enabled
app.update.silent

And remember, there's also:
extensions.update.enabled

Which is set from the Add-ons Manager:

2013-11-29 09_57_36-Add-ons Manager - Pale Moon.png
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 04:59:01 PM by 4wd »

Curt

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, 12:43:42 AM »
-wow, that was thorough answer! Thank you, 4wd!

As my above screenshot shows, my personnal setting was "NEVER search for updates", yet app.update.auto was "True", which can explain a lot. I have changed it to "False", now time will tell if that's all that's needed.

Thanks again, 4wd, your answer was way beyond what any one could ask for! :Thmbsup:

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Re: Why is my Firefox searching for updates when aut. updating not is enabled?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2013, 11:36:37 PM »
Hi,

i am new here. but i trying to find some info regarding some issues.

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