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Author Topic: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written  (Read 8136 times)

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Sometimes throwing money at problems works. As the Pentagon continues to struggle with cybersecurity, their sci-fi-like R&D department, DARPA, is ready to start writing checks. The agency just announced a competition to build a "fully automated cyber defense system." The grand prize? $2 million.

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 10:28:02 AM »
WOOHOO!

I'm going to send them in a robot that unplugs computers! :D

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 12:03:52 PM »
And this explains the entire reason why the government's systems are so easily hacked. If you're Joe Six Pack automated protection will usually be good enough to secure your network. If you're the highest profile target in the world your only chance at defending yourself is an elite team of security professionals.

They aren't being attacked by code. There aren't any 1s and 0s on a mission to break into their systems. They are being targeted by hackers - in other words people. No computer, no cluster of supercomputers, can effectively strategize against expert human hackers any more than a giant armored wall can defend against a human army. In both cases people will just go around it.

If you want to defend yourself against people you have to have people of your own. Otherwise you've lost before the first attack comes in.
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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 12:05:07 PM »
WOOHOO!

I'm going to send them in a robot that unplugs computers! :D



That's outdated technology. They already have contractors who not only unplug them but take them home when they're done.  :o
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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 12:25:08 PM »
What's the better response to this article?  Crickets and Silence?  Or Laughter?

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 12:43:53 PM »
What's the better response to this article?  Crickets and Silence?  Or Laughter?

I tend to favor point and laugh.
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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 12:46:56 PM »
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They want one "with reasoning abilities exceeding those of human experts" that "will create its own knowledge." They want it to deflect cyberattacks, not in a matter of days—which is how the Pentagon currently works—but in a matter of hours or even seconds. That's profoundly difficult.

This sounds like a job for Lawnmower Man!

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 02:20:46 PM »
I'd go with the HAL 9000. Already proven against the human threat.  :D


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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 02:44:35 PM »
How about Skynet?  That seems like an obvious one. ;D

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 02:55:54 PM »
I'd go with the HAL 9000. Already proven against the human threat.  :D

HAL9000 was still just a computer that only had control of its own direct environment. Lawnmower Man (by the end of the movie) was a pure energy being ... So he could travel up the wire and kill the hacker in their own home. Which would greatly simplify security response times because you don't have to waste time analyzing the attack to mount a counter strategy. Because you could simply kill the person launching it.


...And no I couldn't say that IRL with a straight face.

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 02:57:06 PM »
How about Skynet?  That seems like an obvious one. ;D

That would be like HAL9000 with drones. Collateral damage would be rather high...but that's never really bothered the pentagon much ... Shit man you could win!

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 06:44:32 PM »
I'd go with the HAL 9000. Already proven against the human threat.  :D

HAL9000 was still just a computer that only had control of its own direct environment. Lawnmower Man (by the end of the movie) was a pure energy being ... So he could travel up the wire and kill the hacker in their own home. Which would greatly simplify security response times because you don't have to waste time analyzing the attack to mount a counter strategy. Because you could simply kill the person launching it.


...And no I couldn't say that IRL with a straight face.

Yeah but could the Lawnmower Man sing?

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 07:10:43 PM »
I'd go with the HAL 9000. Already proven against the human threat.  :D

HAL9000 was still just a computer that only had control of its own direct environment. Lawnmower Man (by the end of the movie) was a pure energy being ... So he could travel up the wire and kill the hacker in their own home. Which would greatly simplify security response times because you don't have to waste time analyzing the attack to mount a counter strategy. Because you could simply kill the person launching it.


...And no I couldn't say that IRL with a straight face.

Yeah but could the Lawnmower Man sing?

https://www.youtube..../watch?v=OuEN5TjYRCE

Nope! ...And based on your video...I'm gonna put that in my plus column.  :D

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 07:14:36 PM »
You're just jealous.  :P
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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 07:53:53 PM »
Not sure I get it.

Is this to protect the Government from the NSA or to give the NSA a heads up on the next encryption/protection methods so they don't have to work as hard?

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 09:02:24 AM »
Yes?

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2013, 02:55:17 PM »
WOOHOO!

I'm going to send them in a robot that unplugs computers! :D



Better to send them a robot that can also encase them in a solid block of concrete, buried deep underground, and then stands guard against anyone that comes along with any type of shovel, so nobody can plug them back in, access them, or even move them.  :P

Hey, maybe mouser can do it as a NANY project and call it Unplug + Bury And Guard Against Access Robot? (UBAGAAR)

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2013, 03:13:55 PM »
Or someone could write a FARR plug-in to do that.  :P

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Re: Contest: DARPA offers $2 milllion for security software to be written
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2013, 03:37:51 PM »
Or someone could write a FARR plug-in to do that.  :P

But we don't want anyone to find and run those computers!  :P