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tomos:

Jolla now taking tablet pre-orders

5 reasons why Sailfish OS 2.0 should worry Apple, Google and Microsoft
-Arizona Hot (August 21, 2015, 02:59 AM)
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this sounds great :Thmbsup:
now a new phone from them - or simply with that OS, would be a good option - a nice move away from all this lack of security and privacy.

Arizona Hot:
now a new phone from them - or simply with that OS, would be a good option - a nice move away from all this lack of security and privacy.
-tomos (August 21, 2015, 04:53 AM)
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Because it's open-source, malware producers don't have to empirically hack it. They can study the source code instead.

Arizona Hot:
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bit:
Latest forecast suggests 'Godzilla El Niño' may be coming to California ...and everywhere downwind...IMHO basically the entire US.

One winter the owner of a beach front South Mission Bay house had a plus tide and storm surf sending waves into his living room through his big ocean front picture window.
Sooo, the next summer he had a nice big solid concrete block wall put up across the front yard.
The following winter, the storm waves hurled concrete blocks through his living room picture window.  ;D
'It's not nice to fool Mother Nature'.

tomos:
now a new phone from them - or simply with that OS, would be a good option - a nice move away from all this lack of security and privacy.
-tomos (August 21, 2015, 04:53 AM)
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Because it's open-source, malware producers don't have to empirically hack it. They can study the source code instead.
-Arizona Hot (August 21, 2015, 12:46 PM)
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got me looking at Android, about which I know very little.
In the middle of reading this - it's almost two years old - not sure how much things have changed since then:
Google’s iron grip on Android: Controlling open source by any means necessary (arstechnica.com)

From page 4 of above:
We previously explored Play Service's update implications, but it is a huge weapon in the fight against Android forks. Play Services is a closed source app owned by Google and licensed as part of the Google Apps package. Any feature you see move from "normal" Android to Google Play Services is also moving from open source to closed source. This app pulls off the neat trick of not only enticing users with exclusive, closed source features, but locking in third-party developers with Google's proprietary APIs as well.

Taking the Android app ecosystem from Google seems easy: just get your own app store up and running, convince developers to upload their apps to it, and you're on your way. But the Google APIs that ship with Play Services are out to stop this by convincing developers to weave dependence on Google into their apps. Google's strategy with Google Play Services is to turn the "Android App Ecosystem" into the "Google Play Ecosystem" by making a developer's life as easy as possible on a Google-approved device—and as difficult as possible on a non-Google-approved device.

If you use any Google APIs and try to run your app on a Kindle, or any other non-Google version of AOSP: surprise! Your app is broken. Google's Android is a very high percentage of the Android market, and developers only really care about making their app easily, making it work well, and reaching a wide audience. Google APIs accomplish all that, with the side effect that your app is now dependent on the device having a Google Apps license.
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