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Author Topic: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees  (Read 5409 times)

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NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« on: July 23, 2013, 08:28 PM »
MOAR from the "you-can't-make-this-up" department:

http://www.huffingto...8.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

But ask the NSA, as part of a freedom of information request, to do a seemingly simple search of its own employees' email? The agency says it doesn't have the technology.

"There's no central method to search an email at this time with the way our records are set up, unfortunately," NSA Freedom of Information Act officer Cindy Blacker told me last week.

The system is "a little antiquated and archaic," she added.

I filed a request last week for emails between NSA employees and employees of the National Geographic Channel over a specific time period. The TV station had aired a friendly documentary on the NSA and I want to better understand the agency's public-relations efforts.

Antiquated?

Archaic?

Seriously?

Not sure about you, but this just seems a bit "convenient" to me.
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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 09:38 PM »
Wouldn't Edward Snowden have something to say on that!?

Ms. Blacker seems to be playing a risky gambit with the "denial as usual"!


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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 10:32 PM »
Wouldn't Edward Snowden have something to say on that!?

He was scheduled to make a statement on it, but never showed up. His publicist said he was busy taking a shower & changing after pissing himself while he laughed his way into incontinence. :P
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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 06:56 AM »
Wouldn't Edward Snowden have something to say on that!?

He was scheduled to make a statement on it, but never showed up. His publicist said he was busy taking a shower & changing after pissing himself while he laughed his way into incontinence. :P

 :D :Thmbsup: - However it does make perfect sense as obviously they wouldn't want any sort of "paper trail" documenting their own terrorist activities.

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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 08:16 AM »
From the NSA All-Purpose Dictionary:

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can't - [kant, kahnt]

     1. not supposed to
     2. unable or not allowed to (archaic)


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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 08:20 AM »
Antiquated?

Archaic?

Seriously?

Not sure about you, but this just seems a bit "convenient" to me.

That's the beauty of getting in the habit of automatically lying to everyone about everything you do. After a while it just comes naturally.

They've become a bunch of double-plus ungood duckspeakers, to use Orwell's terminology. :-\

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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 07:44 PM »
That's the beauty of getting in the habit of automatically lying to everyone about everything you do. After a while it just comes naturally.

I kind of wonder if they've got things engineered and compartmentalized so well that the people doing the "lying" actually believe the lies because they're only privy to enough information to make them actually believe that. i.e. Do we have genuine liars or do we have a system of deceit?

They've become a bunch of double-plus ungood duckspeakers, to use Orwell's terminology. :-\

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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 12:09 AM »
Chances are this was nothing but the typical deny first and don't bother checking later policy that government agencies (especially intelligence services) have WRT to FOIA requests. The CIA has it down to a science. Last year somebody filed a lawsuit after they responded to a FOIA request for nothing more than their FOIA policy and they responded saying their were no documents matching the request.

Now keep in mind every agency publishes their FOIA policy publicly so the only way someone whose job was processing information requests wouldn't find it is if they didn't look. In fact that was the point of the request - irrefutable evidence the CIA is actively ignoring the law like everybody knows they are. The NSA certainly does the same thing.
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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 01:28 AM »
Last year somebody filed a lawsuit after they responded to a FOIA request for nothing more than their FOIA policy and they responded saying their were no documents matching the request.

That's hilarious! :D
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Re: NSA Can't Search Emails Of Agency Employees
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 02:11 AM »
This belongs over here!

(Renny, who works for the NSA, wrote)
Not sure if this has been posted before (and don't care to spend an hour to find out), but it's funny:
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