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Knight to queen's bishop 3 - Snowden charged with espionage.

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TaoPhoenix:

Heh Renny - if you lie hard enough, it becomes true!
:P

Renegade:
Heh Renny - if you lie hard enough, it becomes true!
:P
-TaoPhoenix (August 24, 2013, 11:03 PM)
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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.-Joseph Goebbels
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The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.-Joseph Goebbels
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Ah! Words to murder by!  :Thmbsup:

Renegade:
An interesting article at Wired on General Keith Alexander:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/general-keith-alexander-cyberwar/all/

INSIDE FORT MEADE, Maryland, a top-secret city bustles. Tens of thousands of people move through more than 50 buildings—the city has its own post office, fire department, and police force. But as if designed by Kafka, it sits among a forest of trees, surrounded by electrified fences and heavily armed guards, protected by antitank barriers, monitored by sensitive motion detectors, and watched by rotating cameras. To block any telltale electromagnetic signals from escaping, the inner walls of the buildings are wrapped in protective copper shielding and the one-way windows are embedded with a fine copper mesh.

This is the undisputed domain of General Keith Alexander, a man few even in Washington would likely recognize. Never before has anyone in America’s intelligence sphere come close to his degree of power, the number of people under his command, the expanse of his rule, the length of his reign, or the depth of his secrecy. A four-star Army general, his authority extends across three domains: He is director of the world’s largest intelligence service, the National Security Agency; chief of the Central Security Service; and commander of the US Cyber Command. As such, he has his own secret military, presiding over the Navy’s 10th Fleet, the 24th Air Force, and the Second Army.
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Lots more there.

It gets into Stuxnet, cyberwarfare, and some other interesting things.

The article does a pretty good job (for the purposes of this thread) of illustrating some of the scale of what is going on.

And he has the 2nd army at his immediate command - that's some pretty scary stuff there, and that's only on part of the conventional side. Armies are big. Very big.

Renegade:
Hell. Fire. Damnation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/23/edward-snowden-daniel-sheehan_n_3806135.html

I'm not going to bother quoting anything. You can pretty much assume that it's not good news.

IainB:
An interesting article at Wired on General Keith Alexander:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/general-keith-alexander-cyberwar/all/
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-Renegade (August 26, 2013, 09:34 AM)
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Superb story. However, given the nature of the subject matter, one has to wonder how true any of it might be, or whether there are all kinds of embedded and deliberately misleading points and/or half-truths in it. Separate cases in point being the "Star Wars" and "Neutron Bomb" stories.
Some people (not me, you understand), might say that "War is deception" is the normal rule - whether it be according to SunTzu protecting his empire, or Muhammed his empire, or the British Raj protecting The British Empire, or the Marxist Manifesto, or CAGW alarmists fighting for The Cause of "The Greater Good" or World Government or whatever, or modern-day US military strategists fighting to support the preservation/continuation of supremacy of "The American Way" (as in the article you link to), but I couldn't possibly comment.

There is another, similar, great story that Hacker News pointed to here, the original source being The NYPD Division of Un-American Activities (see the whole thing here).
Interesting that these great stories seem to be coming out in the Internet media and more MSM outlets now...they seem to indicate that quite a bit of journalistic research has gone into them. However, as we can all observe, journalists don't really do much of any research nowadays, but merely just engage in publishing "leaked" and already formatted press releases and regurgitating other Internet posts - what they scatalogically refer to as "t#rd-eating".

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