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Ministry of Truth - Washington Post changes wording in its archive about PRISM
40hz:
Ok...it's starting to look more Orwellian than we imagined.
This article over at Forbes shows how The Washington Post has been changing it's news archives.
...One of the most remarkable changes is the subtle retraction that companies were knowingly complicit. The Post changed the text to say that “participation is essential” to the program and bears on citing the source document.
The original:
The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley.
The updated:
The technology companies, whose cooperation is essential to PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley, according to the document.
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While I think it's right and proper for a news organization to publicly clarify or correct erroneous information or conclusions in one of its reports, I find it somewhat worrisome when the official new archive is quietly 'corrected' after the fact - and with no mention made. That just smacks of 1984 and the ongoing historic revisionism that Winston Smith's department was charged with.
So it goes. :-\ Full article can be found at the Forbes website here.
TaoPhoenix:
Well yeah, once you open THAT can of worms, courtesy of the Pandora Box Company, then all kinds of fun can be had! Restated for "Today's Audience", if you weren't around for the two days when the "real" story hit the viral web, then if you go back to it say, when you have time over a weekend, what might be there in the archive could already be Spin-Doctored.
Since I am also a fan of reporting on Int. Prop. mischief, if you're fast enough to quote the original "Real" article, and happen to have an over-documented link (meaning time it was pulled and more), then when the story behind the link changes, what's the copyright status of your original quoted article? What's the copyright status on a version that "doesn't exist"!?
Are you now a _______ (Insert attack noun here) because you're now quoting a "no longer authorized version of a news story"!?
TaoPhoenix:
On a new angle, this isn't a tabloid "professional gadfly" rag at stake. If you have *Forbes* calling 'Dis on *The Washington Post*, it's already hit the Meta Level. Even in "Orwell" the "people" knew history was changed but "couldn't prove it" etc.
Here now you have one first tier source calling out another one, and then of course now Forbes' copy is Out There.
Check out this bit from the Forbes meta-article:
"Flat denials from the technology companies seem to have staid criticism for now and may have been a factor in convincing the paper to make revisions to its reporting."
The thing about Flat Denials is they are aggressive but risky. If this were the old days, all of this would have been hushed up. But the internet is Made For Viral (viral everything - 1.0 was Pr0n, 2.0 was Social Cats, so maybe finally 3.0 is Freedom!?).
So then that leads to crumbling statements like: (Double Quoted from Forbes)
"It is possible that the conflict between the PRISM slides and the company spokesmen is the result of imprecision on the part of the NSA author."
Uh ... so they're not saying it's a photo-shopped fake slide, right!? So how does one reconcile "apparently real presentation slides" with "flat denials by the companies"!?
CWuestefeld:
Honestly, I'm not particularly concerned about this. I see post-hoc editing of news stories all the time, as the need for corrections comes to light. I'm a little put out that there's no notation on the page saying that a change occurred -- I see such notes frequently. But I don't get the idea that there's anything unusual going on due to what the article reveals.
40hz:
Honestly, I'm not particularly concerned about this. I see post-hoc editing of news stories all the time, as the need for corrections comes to light. I'm a little put out that there's no notation on the page saying that a change occurred -- I see such notes frequently. But I don't get the idea that there's anything unusual going on due to what the article reveals.
-CWuestefeld (June 17, 2013, 01:09 PM)
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I'm concerned in that some of the so-called "newspapers of record" (NYT, WSJ, and WP) do this routinely with no notification of post-facto editing. AFAIK, the only major paper that still refuses to indulge in this practice is the Christian Science Monitor.
I think we're entitled to something a little better than having to resort to the wayback machine to pin down something that was originally said. Otherwise we're walking down the same path as The Congressional Record where a rep can say one thing on the House floor - but then "amend," "revise," "correct" or completely rewrite the official transcript after the fact.
Sorry. I have to call BS on that practice. When major papers begin changing their wording for any reason other than an incorrectly reported fact or flat out error in attribution - and do it in such a way as to change the original intent or conclusion of the article without putting the reader on notice first - smacks a little too much of the "ignorance is strength" and "it's for your own good" ruling class mindset.
It's hard enough pinning some of these rascals down in real time without allowing them to go in and change what was said after the fact. That's more than a slippery slope we're heading down if we accept that. That's eliminating history and "the record" from consideration and attempting to put the equivalent of a videogame's "revert to last save" or "do over" into real life. That's what the practice of acknowledged corrections and retractions was created for to avoid.
Life doesn't have a reset or "new game" feature. Time is not a two way street in our world. We deal with nothing but actual events and their consequences plus the fallout from the decisions that were made in response to them. To get away from that is pure "magical thinking."
Let's not let the fourth estate encourage that by playing fast and loose with what was actually said when it actually was said.
:)
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