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Last post Author Topic: Personal keylogger  (Read 14453 times)

4wd

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2018, 03:03 AM »
MS Defender doesn't complain about the latest version at all both on my system or via VirusTotal.
MBAM doesn't complain about it either scanning the executable or when it's running.

It doesn't send anything to the network, it doesn't cause thermonuclear meltdown, the Sun still set today, I still have to pay taxes, and (most annoyingly) it doesn't make coffee.

It can be extracted from its installer and run without having to install it.

I don't want it to be 'stealth' or anything like that or 'hidden' or 'invinsible' as it is only for me and nothing malicious.

It also doesn't run as 'stealth', 'hidden', or 'invisible' unless you tell it to hide the tray icon.

Do you actually try anything anyone suggests?
Or do you wait until someone has done it for you?

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2018, 03:13 AM »
Trojan:Win32:Tiggre!Plock


This ^ and the fact that a keylogger is basically always going to seem suspicious to an AV system (I'd be worried if it didn't...).

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2018, 05:01 AM »
Trojan:Win32:Tiggre!Plock

This ^ and the fact that a keylogger is basically always going to seem suspicious to an AV system (I'd be worried if it didn't...).
-Stephen66515 (April 20, 2018, 03:13 AM)

Exactly but it seems that most of the AV programs are either intelligent enough to know when something isn't doing something wrong until it does it or too dumb to know ... which is it?

And he specifically said MS Defender.

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2018, 08:16 AM »
Trojan:Win32:Tiggre!Plock

This ^ and the fact that a keylogger is basically always going to seem suspicious to an AV system (I'd be worried if it didn't...).
-Stephen66515 (April 20, 2018, 03:13 AM)

Exactly but it seems that most of the AV programs are either intelligent enough to know when something isn't doing something wrong until it does it or too dumb to know ... which is it?

And he specifically said MS Defender.

Well, I just downloaded the last one suggested...ran it...MSDefender doesn't give a shit about it - didn't pop up a warning, I didn't have to add it as an allowed application, my firewall didn't go apeshit and my dog didn't bite me...soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....not too sure what is even going on in this thread anymore  ;D

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2018, 04:26 PM »
....not too sure what is even going on in this thread anymore  ;D
-Stephen66515 (April 20, 2018, 08:16 AM)

Allow me to elucidate:
1) OP has asked for recommendations for software to perform a certain function.
2) Recommendations were given but OP gives no indication that any of them have actually been tried apart from being downloaded and having the AV complain about them.
3) [Insert number here] months later OP repeats same request and provides no explanation of why any previous suggestion was unsuitable because he has not tried them.
4) Repeat from step 2.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

Could probably add that despite proving that the latest comment by him was incorrect that we will continue from step 3 anyway.

To put it another way, in the 5 years since the OP posted:
a) He could have reviewed every single keylogger out there and put his results in our Review section.
b) He could have learnt a programming language and written one that suits him.

PS. If you think I'm being overly sarcastic ... you are 100% correct.

PPS. I forgot to include that it usually takes at least a dozen posts over the course of a month or two to find out what is actually required.

I should probably make a flow chart, it might be easier to follow.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 01:30 AM by 4wd »

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2018, 08:22 PM »
I should probably make a flow chart, it might be easier to follow.

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Naughty boy! Put on this pointy hat and stand in the corner!

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2018, 09:00 PM »
I should probably make a flow chart, it might be easier to follow.

Dunno ... reminds me more of some of the overly complex sentence diagramming in English class when I was in high school, circa early 60's ... not certain flow charting could do justice  :-\.

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2018, 12:02 AM »
I should probably make a flow chart, it might be easier to follow.

Dunno ... reminds me more of some of the overly complex sentence diagramming in English class when I was in high school, circa early 60's ... not certain flow charting could do justice  :-\.

Would end up in an endless loop with no possible outcome anyway  ;)

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2018, 06:35 AM »
This thread is brilliant  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2018, 08:50 AM »
some of the overly complex sentence diagramming in English class

That damned lazy cat! "Up, up," said Sally. "Go up, up, up."


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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2018, 09:08 AM »
OK! I installed FreeKeylogger and it seems now that Windows Defender doesn't quarantine it.
However, it has one MAJOR flaw: it doesn't allow you to seach for typed/clipboarded text across any date! You have to choose a specific date and search!

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2018, 09:37 AM »
OK! I installed FreeKeylogger and it seems now that Windows Defender doesn't quarantine it.
However, it has one MAJOR flaw: it doesn't allow you to seach for typed/clipboarded text across any date! You have to choose a specific date and search!

Then ask their developer to add your feature?

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2018, 06:35 PM »
@kalos:
OK! I installed FreeKeylogger and it seems now that Windows Defender doesn't quarantine it.
However, it has one MAJOR flaw: it doesn't allow you to seach for typed/clipboarded text across any date! You have to choose a specific date and search!

This must be very frustrating for you.

Your original requirement was:
  • Hello!
    I am looking for a program that will monitor and save all the text I am typing, along with date, window/app info, etc.
    Is there a simple solution?
    thanks!

As @mouser suggested earlier in this thread:
  • I find a clipboard tool (of course I use my own, CHS) an excellent emergency backup for such occasions.  All I have to do is Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C and I've got a copy of the text in its current version saved in case of a crash.
    I'm sure I'm not the only person who uses a clipboard tool for such purposes.

That is: using CHS and going Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C would suffice.

Using CHS would give you:
  • capture/retention of the block of text that you are working on;
  • along with date/time;
  • along with window/app info plus other metadata, where relevant (e.g., URL);
  • a simple solution.
- which would seem to meet your requirements. What's not to like about that - or have your requirements changed?

Did you trial CHS for the purpose?

If you had started to trial CHS for this purpose on 2017-11-05, then you could have been trying it out at your leisure for about 5+ months already by now, to establish whether it could work for 80% or more of your requirements and you with it, and you may well have discovered in that time that you actually did not really need the left-handed screwdriver that you thought you needed.

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2018, 07:11 PM »
@kalos:.b]Your original requirement was:[/b]
  • Hello!
    I am looking for a program that will monitor and save all the text I am typing, along with date, window/app info, etc.
    Is there a simple solution?
    thanks!

You forgot that bit, it implies automatically.
The OP could suffer from a debilitating problem that prevents the use of, or the remembrance to execute, the requisite key combinations required to periodically perform the needed action(s).

We wouldn't want to be accused of bias against any particular minority/majority/individual/alien/pet/political party/etc based on information that was, (or wasn't), provided at the outset that could have increased our chances of helping any minority/majority/individual/alien/pet/political party/etc in a much shorter time frame, (possibly less than 5 years for example).

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2018, 12:39 AM »
Getting back on track, away from the hilarity ...

However, it has one MAJOR flaw: it doesn't allow you to seach for typed/clipboarded text across any date! You have to choose a specific date and search!

C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\FKL Viewer\logged_files\*.dat

Contain everything that's logged from the keyboard in plain text - use a program to search them, (hell, even Cortana can probably do it given the right info since Windows Search could).

Ask nicely in the Coding Snacks area and someone may even be willing to write a program that interprets all the [Down], [Up], [Enter], [Back], etc into the final user-readable text, (or not).

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #65 on: April 23, 2018, 01:47 PM »
Finally, I resolved to this:

Loop {  ;  Smallest keylogger I can come up with. Key strokes are saved to key.log, opens in notepad.
   Input, key, V T5,
   FileAppend, %key%, key.log
}

 ;D ;D

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Re: Personal keylogger
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2018, 10:26 PM »
^^ Oh, well done. I did wonder why you didn't use AHK, which can  monitor and log everything from the keyboard. However, I figured that because the output file would be a jumbled heap, it probably would not be able to meet your requirements.
Let's see how you get on with using it.