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Author Topic: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness  (Read 2691 times)

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Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« on: December 05, 2012, 10:19:55 AM »
This is just bonkers...

Via:
http://tiny.iavian.net/h71

http://www.washingto...9b7e29c5_story.html?

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Hacker locates John McAfee through smartphone tracks

Weeks of international intrigue about the whereabouts of tech millionaire John McAfee ended Tuesday after the Internet pioneer made an elementary digital mistake that highlighted the fraught relationship Americans have with what they once quaintly called “the telephone.”

That homely communication tool, wired into walls everywhere for the better part of a century, has become an untethered e-mailer, browser, banker, shopper, movie viewer, music player and — to an extent that few appreciate — digital spy of extraordinary power.

McAfee, 67, who founded the popular antivirus company that bears his name, has been wanted for questioning by police in Belize since a neighbor turned up dead of a gunshot wound near McAfee’s beach-side home Nov. 11. The troubled tech savant, insisting that he had no role in the shooting, went on the run and has been taunting police by blog, Twitter and occasional podcast.

Authorities couldn’t catch him. But a hacker called Simple Nomad learned McAfee’s location shortly after journalists posted an image of him from his supposedly secret locale under the provocative headline, “We are with John McAfee right now, suckers.”

Embedded in that image, apparently taken by one of the journalists, was the sort of detailed data routinely collected by smartphone cameras and often transmitted along with images wherever they go — on e-mail, Facebook, online photo albums and, it turns out, to Vice magazine’s Web site.

Security: Duh... Cameras embed EXIF data.
Law: Oh god...
Ego: This is just funny!
Patheticness: Hacker? God... It's called looking at EXIF data...

Meh... Whatever. This whole McAfee thing is just one long string of laughs! :P
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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 10:20:43 AM »
l-o-freaking-l

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 10:38:32 AM »
If he ever gets back the the .us, he should have his own celebrity show - I propose "Cooking with McAfee" ;)
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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 11:24:15 AM »
His product couldn't find a virus if it had a note stapled to it, and apparently IRL he's not that sharp either. So he got nailed in much the same way as most of his products users did (StupidITy).

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 12:31:59 PM »
Just goes to show it's seldom wise to taunt people regardless of your motivation.

All it usually accomplishes is to put yourself on the receiving end of a "challenge accepted" response from the Universe.
 :-\

And +1 with SJ. There aren't too many commercial software products that outright suck. But McAfee's products definitely suck.

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 02:59:27 PM »
Security: Duh... Cameras embed EXIF data.
Law: Oh god...
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Patheticness: Hacker? God... It's called looking at EXIF data...

So wait, how many layers of recast blame are we looking at here?

Law: "Now remember, class, when we like you, we call you a Security Researcher. When we don't like that you showed us up but you helped us, we call you a Hacker. When we want to tap into the meme to scare the sheep into letting us pass new laws, we call you a Terrorist. So be nice, okay? You wouldn't want to be called a Terrorist. P.S. We need another $50 Billion for a new surveillance program."

So when that journalist photo went viral, no one in Law was skilled enough to use all that juicy data to come to that conclusion themselves?! It took a "Hacker" to do it?! Aren't these the guys who hire Consultants for millions of dollars a day? But they couldn't even give $100 and a pizza and bar tab to a "Security Researcher"?!

I'm just a semi-senile ol' humanities bird, but I bet every one of you Dev Cody's out there could have done that.


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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 03:09:04 PM »
Law: Oh god...
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Patheticness: Hacker? God... It's called looking at EXIF data...


So wait, how many layers of recast blame are we looking at here?

Law: "Now remember, class, when we like you, we call you a Security Researcher. When we don't like that you showed us up but you helped us, we call you a Hacker. When we want to tap into the meme to scare the sheep into letting us pass new laws, we call you a Terrorist. So be nice, okay? You wouldn't want to be called a Terrorist. P.S. We need another $50 Billion for a new surveillance program."

Spot on! The Phoenix sums it up in just 51 words. :Thmbsup:

Take a bow T-Man!!! ;)
« Last Edit: December 05, 2012, 04:17:39 PM by 40hz »

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 07:00:36 PM »

Security: Duh... Cameras embed EXIF data.
Law: Oh god...
Ego: This is just funny!
Patheticness: Hacker? God... It's called looking at EXIF data...

Meh... Whatever. This whole McAfee thing is just one long string of laughs! :P

  I learned a long time ago to remove the EXIF and any other exorbitant data from my pictures with a freebie called JPg Cleaner 95, for no other reason than it makes the file smaller and saves drive space.

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 09:08:08 PM »
I learned a long time ago to remove the EXIF and any other exorbitant data from my pictures with a freebie called JPg Cleaner 95, for no other reason than it makes the file smaller and saves drive space.

Thanks for the info. I'll look into JPG Cleaner [95] v2.6 By Rainbow Software and PiT.

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 09:13:04 PM »
I learned a long time ago to remove the EXIF and any other exorbitant data from my pictures...

It was an important consideration for me when I wrote Photo Resizer, and particularly for when I added in cropping. IIRC, I only delete the thumbnail and leave other things alone.

But really, while you might not expect your mom to know about EXIF data and the like, a guy who used to run a security company? Seriously?
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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 03:22:05 AM »
Is this the same as MetaData? Because deleting it risks turning you into a Terrorist per other threads!
(What about that Poor Journalist? Was his photo being shared without his direct permission? That's Copyright Infringement by Terrorists to you!  http://www.photo-mar...-stripping-metadata/   Oh, Won't Someone Think of the Journalists??)


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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 03:23:56 AM »
Law: Oh god...
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Patheticness: Hacker? God... It's called looking at EXIF data...


So wait, how many layers of recast blame are we looking at here?

Law: "Now remember, class, when we like you, we call you a Security Researcher. When we don't like that you showed us up but you helped us, we call you a Hacker. When we want to tap into the meme to scare the sheep into letting us pass new laws, we call you a Terrorist. So be nice, okay? You wouldn't want to be called a Terrorist. P.S. We need another $50 Billion for a new surveillance program."

Spot on! The Phoenix sums it up in just 51 words. :Thmbsup:

Take a bow T-Man!!! ;)

"Shit. You mean I miscounted? Well delete the word 'into' in the middle of '(into) the meme' then it's 50 words exactly, right?"   8)

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 07:14:14 AM »
So, any suggestion on a good portable EXIF reader/viewer?

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 07:46:34 AM »
So, any suggestion on a good portable EXIF reader/viewer?

Not FastStone. Just checked. It doesn't tell you jack.

Mostly when I've been interested in EXIF data, I've just done it all in Visual Studio... Not really very useful for others. :(


Is this the same as MetaData? Because deleting it risks turning you into a Terrorist per other threads!

Yep - same thing. And nope - not worried as I'm already guilty of a thousand other things to label myself as a "terrorist". Still, filling the piggy bank a coin at a time works. :D Oh... and that's another way in that I'm a terrorist - I have physical silver.  :o
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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 07:54:53 AM »
Doesn't Right-click -> Properties show metadata?

XnView works pretty good, and XnViewMP can show the rating info as well:
http://newsgroup.xnv...php?f=35&t=24210

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2012, 07:41:29 PM »
IrfanView can read EXIP metadata via plugin (download plugins , help). To remove EXIP metadata select Option | JPEG Lossless Operation... and in "JPG Lossless transformation", under "JPG APP marker option" select Custom and untick appropriate check-box.

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2012, 08:01:13 PM »
In Irfanview 4.35 go Options | JPEG Lossless Rotation to get the "JPG Lossless transformation" window.

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Re: Security, Law, Ego, and Patheticness
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2012, 02:00:11 AM »
In more on-topic news, John McAfee has suffered a heart attack (or reasonable facsimile) and is applying to Guatemala for asylum.  Apparently he's genuinely afraid of the Belizean government:
http://abcnews.go.co...7890926#.UMGg9CGZP80