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Tinman57:
Flu deaths reality check.  Credibility of flu models disputed
By Kelly Crowe, Nov 25, 2012 5:14 PM ET
Do thousands of Canadians really die every year from the flu? The flu folks keep saying so. I've already heard it repeated several times this year and flu season has just started. This is what the Public Health Agency of Canada said in a recent press release: "Every year, between 2,000 and 8,000 Canadians die of the flu and its complications."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/11/22/flu-deaths-crowe.html

Renegade:
Funny timing. I just read a few shill articles here in Oz. Yep. The vaxers are out in full force, predicting the end of civilisation unless everyone gets a jab.

I was recently talking with a friend that was in town overnight here, and he stopped getting flu shots because every time he got one, he got sick. That seems to be a common thing.

Some recent research came out showing that the 2008 flu vaccine in Canada caused more sickness than it prevented.

Considering the massive conflict of interest that the pharmaceutical companies have, how can anyone completely ignore it as a consideration in these matters? It baffles me.

They have been fined billions of dollars for criminal fraud over the past few years. They're not health organisations - they are criminal enterprises. A list of their criminal activities would simply be too long to post.

So, I'll just post a few that don't even begin to scratch the surface of the problem.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/02/us-glaxo-settlement-idUSBRE8610S720120702

GlaxoSmithKline settles healthcare fraud case for $3 billion

GlaxoSmithKline Plc agreed to plead guilty to misdemeanor criminal charges and pay $3 billion to settle what government officials on Monday described as the largest case of healthcare fraud in U.S. history.

The agreement, which still needs court approval, would resolve allegations that the British drugmaker broke U.S. laws in the marketing and development of pharmaceuticals.

GSK targeted the antidepressant Paxil to patients under age 18 when it was approved for adults only, and it pushed the drug Wellbutrin for uses it was not approved for, including weight loss and treatment of sexual dysfunction, according to an investigation led by the U.S. Justice Department.
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http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/88922/gsk-lab-fined-over-vaccine-tests-that-killed-14--babies

GSK fined over vaccine trials; 14 babies reported dead

GlaxoSmithKline Argentina Laboratories Company was fined 400,000 pesos by Judge Marcelo Aguinsky following a report issued by the National Administration of Medicine, Food and Technology (ANMAT in Spanish) for irregularities during lab vaccine trials conducted between 2007 and 2008 that allegedly killed 14 babies.
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http://en.mercopress.com/2012/01/04/gsk-argentina-fined-for-experimenting-vaccines-in-babies-from-poor-families

http://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html

The United States claims to be the world leader in medicine. But there's a dark side to western medicine that few want to acknowledge: The horrifying medical experiments performed on impoverished people and their children all in the name of scientific progress. Many of these medical experiments were conducted on people without their knowledge, and most were conducted as part of an effort to seek profits from newly approved drugs or medical technologies.

Today, the medical experiments continue on the U.S. population and its children. From the mass drugging of children diagnosed with fictitious behavioral disorders invented by psychiatry to the FDA's approval of mass-marketed drugs that have undergone no legitimate clinical trials, our population is right now being subjected to medical experiments on a staggering scale. Today, nearly 50% of Americans are on a least one prescription drug, and nearly 20% of schoolchildren are on mind-altering amphetamines like Ritalin or antidepressants like Prozac. This mass medication of our nation is, in every way, a grand medical experiment taking place right now.

But to truly understand how this mass experimentation on modern Americans came into being, you have to take a close look at the horrifying history of conventional medicine's exploitation of people for cruel medical experiments.
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http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=474 (1845 to 2007 - human experimentation)

Think U.S. health authorities have never conducted outrageous medical experiments on children, women, minorities, homosexuals and inmates? Think again: This timeline, originally put together by Dani Veracity (a NewsTarget reporter), has been edited and updated with recent vaccination experimentation programs in Maryland and New Jersey. Here’s what’s really happening in the United States when it comes to exploiting the public for medical experimentation:
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That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.

And yet, we're still supposed to trust governments that are in bed with these criminals? And if you question them, you're a kook?

Well, yeah. I'm a kook because I don't trust psychopaths that are dedicated to profit derived from human misery.

How can any research from these companies or from the industry at large be trusted? Wasn't it Merck that was fined for fraud for its MMR vaccine "research"? Didn't Merck try to "fix" the research several times, then have such problems trying to illustrate the safety and efficacy of their MMR vaccine that they gave up and instead just fabricated numbers?

And we're supposed to trust these people?

Seriously?

They're caught lying time and time again, and yet... you're a kook if you don't swallow every word that comes out of their mouths as gospel truth?

I've spoken at length to several doctors about some of these issues. Things that the doctors *should* be able to answer. How many answers have I received? Zero. None. They ALWAYS avoid the question. They NEVER answer any questions. I've had doctors bold-faced lie to my face about hard facts. They either were lying or they believed a lie - one of the two.

But, I'm being pretty ranty here. This is just one of those things that tends to set me off. I would really like to see some actual evidence-based science done in the mainstream.

barney:
I would really like to see some actual evidence-based science done in the mainstream.
-Renegade (November 26, 2012, 06:35 PM)
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Methinks that's a windmill, Don Quixote.  While I share your feelings, I don't - can't! - see that happening, in what's left of my lifetime, in any medico-governmental association <sigh/>.

Renegade:
I would really like to see some actual evidence-based science done in the mainstream.
-Renegade (November 26, 2012, 06:35 PM)
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Methinks that's a windmill, Don Quixote.  While I share your feelings, I don't - can't! - see that happening, in what's left of my lifetime, in any medico-governmental association <sigh/>.
-barney (November 26, 2012, 07:15 PM)
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Sigh... I hope you're wrong. I would really like to think that enough people are realizing the corruptness inherent in the system, and that enough people are speaking out about it. Hopefully, we will see an end to the medical tyranny being imposed on people.

There are some good sites out there that do speak out, and that have better information. Here are a few:

http://naturalsociety.com/

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/

http://www.naturalnews.com/

There are more out there as well. Natural News is probably one of the most outspoken and direct.

They regularly link to and report on all the stuff you never see in the MSM.

barney:
Sigh... I hope you're wrong. I would really like to think that enough people are realizing the corruptness inherent in the system, and that enough people are speaking out about it. Hopefully, we will see an end to the medical tyranny being imposed on people.
-Renegade (November 26, 2012, 07:53 PM)
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I sincerely hope your wish comes true.  I'd love to be wrong on this.  But when it comes to governments or medicine, I've been trained into pessimism  :'(.

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