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Renegade:
End of the Road: How Money Became Worthless[/b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwMbg1KNq6c&feature=player_embedded

Heartily recommended for anyone that is curious about the topic or looking to learn more.
-Renegade (January 20, 2013, 07:20 AM)
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... you need to get a bit more cynical Renegade :D
It's a video advising us as individuals to buy gold - and made by (for?) a bunch of people who just happen to sell gold and silver (did you watch past the credits?).

Something a bit more in-depth would be nice. A bit of real investigative journalism maybe. It is well made, and seems to have some good points, but I do get tired of these promotional type videos where it's their word against the word of the people in that video over there where they say something completely different and they all believe so fervently...
-tomos (January 20, 2013, 09:58 AM)
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Actually, I posted that here because it's pretty tame. I'm very familiar with some of the people in there, and you might be a bit overly cynical there. G. E. Griffin is well known as is Peter Schiff. There's a historian in there as well, but, I won't try to convince you. This is just a tidbit and there's a lot more to know.

e.g. Did you know that J. P. Morgan manipulates the price of silver? (Verifiably so and namedly so.)

Have a look at my very simple introduction to the fraud of fractional reserve banking:

http://cynic.me/2012/05/28/frackin-reserve-the-mechanics-of-fractional-reserve-banking-1-6/

(The hard core "meat" is in #3.)

I've also got a simple fractional reserve banking simulator for Windows, Mac, Linux, a web version, and I've finished an Android version that I'll release when I have time.

The good stuff in the video picks up around 35 min in or so. (Depending on your background on the topic.)

If you want more in depth, check out the 6th article in the series I posted. It has links to quite a few more good resources.

tomos:
I'm very familiar with some of the people in there, and you might be a bit overly cynical there. G. E. Griffin is well known as is Peter Schiff. There's a historian in there as well, but, I won't try to convince you. This is just a tidbit and there's a lot more to know.
-Renegade (January 20, 2013, 10:20 AM)
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it gave me a much better understanding of that POV. I was suprised at the end though when I saw all the gold/silver connections - in any world one would have to query that ;-)

The point that you can do something on a personal level (choose to buy gold their recommendation - but there are other ideas out there) - anyways, that seemed like a good point to me. This system could keep going for a long time yet. Changes will not come from the top. Changes will only come from people choosing something else at a grass-roots level; or the system collapsing - or from both.

I might understand your fractional reserve banking stuff better after that introduction.

Renegade:
I was suprised at the end though when I saw all the gold/silver connections - in any world one would have to query that ;-)
-tomos (January 20, 2013, 01:19 PM)
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True enough. The same goes for pretty much any topic/industry though -- do the experts in the field have a vested/conflict of interest? Do you trust doctors to tell you about health issues? Again, they often have a conflict of interest, so... It's hard to know who to trust/believe. Griffin & Schiff in there I think lend it a lot more credibility. Griffin has been writing on the topic for a long time, and wrote one of the most important books on the topic of money & banking (The Creature from Jekyll Island).

Do check out #6 in my series of articles there. There is a good list of more videos on the topic with some basic commentary on them (from me). The first two are simply incredible - fantastic historical accounts that walk through just about everything you'd ever want to know there.


I might understand your fractional reserve banking stuff better after that introduction.
-tomos (January 20, 2013, 01:19 PM)
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I'd say just jump in and read my articles and play with the software. I've gone over things to introduce the topic to people that know absolutely zero about it, and at the same time, I've got enough "meat" in there for people who know a lot on the topic -- all the while keeping it simple to read and easy to understand. It's extensively illustrated with diagrams, flow charts, graphs, and other illustrations.

i.e. I wanted the make the topic easily accessible to anyone at any level.

For the topic itself, I've only added a few new ideas to the discussion.

Renegade:
For what looks like it will be a very cool video:

http://www.tpbafk.tv  

I've not watched it yet, but I've downloaded it.

If you're wondering what it is, I have three words for you:

THE PIRATE BAY~! ;D

(I love their antics!)

The film is titled:

The Pirate Bay: Away From Keyboard

If it's half as entertaining as some of their blog posts, then it's a must see! :D


EDIT: Props to wraith for pointing it out for me.

Renegade:
RE: The Pirate Bay: Away From Keyboard

Not bad. It's 90% in Swedish with subtitles. It gives some good insight into the people behind TPB though. As you might expect if you know their legal troubles, it's not an action movie or comedy - it's a tragedy.

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