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Listary Pro for only $9.95 on Friday 19 October
cmpm:
Nice informative video, thanks tomos.
I'll leave it on and auto start for a while and see what I can do.
I'm not so much a keyboard enthusiast but I can try.
Listary informed me that WinKey + W was already in use.
But it didn't say by what nor what it wanted that hotkey for.
I looked rather quickly through the interface.... and got lost, lol.
But, I'm in no hurry.
cmpm:
Ha! found it Win+W starts the Listary window.
Easier then I thought. Win+W seems to be the launching point of most features.
Found the search box with it, nice!
rjbull:
I would presume that if Listary Pro integrates with (or "supports") Windows Explorer, then it should be able to integrate with any Explorer replacement tool - e.g., such as Total Commander or xplorer².
As I said above, the features that I would have found useful in Listary Pro are already incorporated into xplorer², so, in my case, using Listary Pro would be adding unnecessary/redundant functionality.-IainB (October 18, 2012, 04:43 PM)
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I'm wondering if maybe you've missed some of Listary's valuable features? Some of the things I like:
* Switch any standard File Open/Save dialog to a favourite folder, either global or per-application.
* Switch any standard File Open/Save dialog to whatever folder the active pane in Total Commander is pointing to.
* Total Commander support means favourites configured only within TC itself are included in Listary's favourites list.
* Help with searching any standard Windows list, not just file lists; e.g. entries in a folder in LinkStash, my links manager.
The first three of those are really about Listary acting as a helper application that harnesses the power of a decent, agile file manager and puts it to work as directly as possible within Windows' knuckle-dragging standard File Open/Save dialog. The last aids file finding in Open/Save dialogs and in Windows Explorer. TC and other good file managers are good at finding/displaying particular files in and of themselves, but Listary usefully beefs up Windows Explorer if that's all you have. Looking at the video again, I realise there are plenty of other good features I'm not using yet...
IainB:
Thanks @rjbull, that's very helpful of you. After reading what you wrote, I did wonder whether I had missed something potentially useful to me, so I just now double-checked - including viewing the Listary v. Listary Pro comparison list and the YouTube clip that @tomos linked to above - so I probably by now have better noted and understood many/most of Listary's features.
At the risk of digressing: a Windows OS disk structure can be regarded as a simple hierarchical database, and a main tool for viewing and accessing that database is WE (Windows Explorer). For me that is a very important tool, but WE seems too basic and necessitates a lot of manual intervention by the user, and I prefer something more automated, faster, and more powerful, so I use xplorer² to replace WE. Having said that, xplorer² is not to everyone's liking.
The discussion is about Listary Pro. It still seems to me that:
* (a) the features that I would have found useful in Listary Pro are already incorporated into xplorer², so, in my case, using Listary Pro would be adding unnecessary/redundant functionality.
* (b) if I didn't already have xplorer², I would probably have bought Listary Pro some time ago.
My peculiar needs are for certain kinds of functionality that I would find useful, rather than just features, and as far as the priority of those needs goes, that is:
* A = Mandatory
* B = Highly desirable
* C = Nice-to-have- and the "As" and "Bs" are what I really need, and the "Cs" are what i can do without (don't really need, by definition).
Whatever functions Listary offers that might be an "A" or a "B" are already well-provided for by xplorer², and the rest are either not required or are "Cs".
You are probably spot-on where you say that:
...Listary usefully beefs up Windows Explorer if that's all you have...
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- I began to realise how seriously limited WE was in design and functionality in about 2003 when I stumbled upon 2explorer - having formerly had no basis for comparison. I rarely use WE now except typically to check to see how it does what compared to similar functionality in xplorer².
Whilst there are probably a couple or so functions that WE has that I think xplorer² might not have, there are stacks of functions that xplorer² has that WE does not. You certainly don't really need WE if you have xplorer² - which is why it is generally used as a WE replacement.
Listary, on the other hand, seems to be a very useful adjunct to WE, but it is not designed as a replacement for WE.
Where you wrote:
...Looking at the video again, I realise there are plenty of other good features I'm not using yet...
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- I can quite understand, and I have the same view of my use of xplorer².
In terms of xplorer² not being able to meet my needs, I think I have only so far come across one case - a "C" need - which can be met by xplorer² but in a fashion that does not work as easily as I would like it to, that cannot be done in WE, and that - on the odd occasion when I need to do it, I use another tool for (Filegrab). I have discussed this need with the author of xplorer².
rjbull:
It still seems to me that:
(a) the features that I would have found useful in Listary Pro are already incorporated into xplorer², so, in my case, using Listary Pro would be adding unnecessary/redundant functionality.-IainB (October 19, 2012, 08:53 PM)
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OK, if you're happy, fair enough! I wasn't as clear as might be. The point I'm probably failing to belabour is the one Channing makes in the video tomos linked to, called Quick Switch: with the aid of Listary Pro, you can make any standard File Open/Save dialog instantly switch to whatever directory your file manager of choice is currently pointing to. No more laboriously navigating a File Open/Save dialog to match the one you're already viewing in your FM. I don't have xplorer², but I do have TC and XYplorer, and that feature works with both of them. For me at least, that's pretty much worth the price of entry on its own.
Another feature I desperately longed for a few years back - not directly related to file managers - is Listary's ability to remember what was the last file you opened in a particular application was, described as "Select last opened file automatically" in the comparison chart. If you then called File Open from the same app, Listary put the cursor on the same file, rather than on the first one and having to scroll through to find where you left off. This would be useful if having to work on a long series of files, one by one.
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