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What went wrong with Linux on the Desktop
TaoPhoenix:
Closed like the Ubuntu ecosystem?
-Tuxman (August 31, 2012, 08:23 AM)
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So just use a Non-Ubuntu distro.
MS/Apple must have a couple of strange patents out there that are blocking certain features, because I just discovered that at the low OS level, I only use the OS for about 15 things, really all not that much. But the base distros can't even make a Right-Clicker like me happy.
I'm dead center of a user that Linux should be able to make happy, and they keep missing the boat.
f0dder:
^How about walled gardens for the users and closed ecosystems for developers for starters? Just the thing to destroy any real innovation. -40hz (August 31, 2012, 08:09 AM)
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Mainly the walled gardens. I don't like how Microsoft has started copying crApple with Win8... while I don't think Secure Boot is necessarily a bad thing, I don't like how it's being implemented, and especially not when Microsoft is also starting a (cr)AppStore.
I just don't see any viable alternative to Windows. Everything sucks at least one way or another - OSX is definitely a no-go since it's even worse. Every Linux distribution I've tried has felt sluggish in comparison (yes, also with non-free drivers. And I do want a graphical desktop.), and had various other issues as well.
40hz:
I'm dead center of a user that Linux should be able to make happy, and they keep missing the boat.
-TaoPhoenix (August 31, 2012, 08:47 AM)
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And therein lies the problem. There is no single "Linux." And the "they" who are involved in it's development are both numerous and divergent in their goals. And not everybody playing the game is interested in playing fairly. Or even rationally. These are points de Icaza discusses in his blog post.
From my perspective it's amazing that the bloody thing boots at all. Especially when you consider how the GNU/Linux open development model is probably one of the least efficient methods (except for a few rare Cinderella stories) of software development out there.
Remove financial incentives from the mix and you need to expect seeing developers insisting on their own agendas and priorities. "Free" in the F/OSS world is often explained as "Free as in speech." I think a better characterization is more along the lines of "You don't pay me - and you're not my boss. So don't tell me what to do!"
Ain't nobody in the world so "free" as the person who makes the time to do something and not need to get paid for doing it.
8)
mahesh2k:
and I don't quite think Apple has that locked, not yet.
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Closed hardware. Closed software. Patent P###y company and Only thing unlocked about them is their preaching of open web standards.
Reminds me of Fight-club's dialogue it was something like - "people spend their life working and ending up buying things they don't need". Catch here is that apple offering people glitter stuff. And linux or insert any other open source free stuff comes across as an alternative. Low cost. Less headache. Freedom comes with these alternatives that apple and windows don't give it to you. The point about linux or open source is not to replace the mainstream brands but to offer people the same experience without them having to cut leg and arm for it. Linux does just that. It's not some brands property to use linux to replace apple and windows. It is made to offer people freedom. Those who love freedom, know how to get it. Those who love walled garden, they'll pay for it.
And ubuntu being a closed ecosystem is another joke or maybe linux hatred for the sake of it. :p
f0dder:
Reminds me of Fight-club's dialogue it was something like - "people spend their life working and ending up buying things they don't need".-mahesh2k (August 31, 2012, 10:11 AM)
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"working jobs we hate so we can buy sh!t we don't need" :)
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