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Last post Author Topic: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in  (Read 26295 times)

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2012, 11:34:53 AM »
If Samsung tells Apple where to stick their contract, then
1) Samsung loses a lot more revenue in the long term
2) Samsung's word as a manufacturer becomes mud

It's to their benefit to keep that separation of producer vs. manufacturer in place.

(And that enemy of my enemy is my friend has been shown historically to be hilarious in a black comedy type manner...)

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2012, 11:35:07 AM »
I would say we live in a world where we always have to search for the lesser evil. There is little to no 'good' left.

Considering the rather fine line between lesser and different, seems to me that it's damned difficult just to find lesser evil  :-\ :huh: :mad:.

And that is why so many of us opt to worship either Cthulhu or Khorne. :) Hey, might as well choose the greater evil~! ;D

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2012, 11:39:38 AM »
If Samsung tells Apple where to stick their contract, then
1) Samsung loses a lot more revenue in the long term
2) Samsung's word as a manufacturer becomes mud

It's to their benefit to keep that separation of producer vs. manufacturer in place.

(And that enemy of my enemy is my friend has been shown historically to be hilarious in a black comedy type manner...)

I agree with most of that, but from working with Samsung at a very deep level for a long time, I would bet that Samsung will eat Apple alive and crunch on their bones while they are at it. This is only the beginning. I think most people underestimate Samsung right now. Apple is only trying to buy time right now. That's all. But they will fail. Guaranteed.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2012, 01:39:17 PM »
It's amusing to me that Apple has painted themselves into a corner with their "innovative design" when the future of personal computer interfaces and functionality will probably more closely resemble something like this:




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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2012, 01:59:55 PM »
It's amusing to me that Apple has painted themselves into a corner with their "innovative design" when the future of personal computer interfaces and functionality will probably more closely resemble something like this:





That was a bloody fantastic, and a damn good watch!

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2012, 02:07:52 PM »
I usually just skim the applelovin' threads  :-[, so apologies if this has been posted before...

I think it's rather ironic and fitting for this one.



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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2012, 05:40:15 PM »
I think most people underestimate Samsung right now.

Anyone who does is pretty stupid.  I mean, when someone has a whole government totally behind them (look up Chaebols) is a pretty big deal.  As bad as politics are in the US, they aren't *that* overt.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2012, 08:47:58 PM »
As bad as politics are in the US, they aren't *that* overt.

Yet. ;)

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2012, 01:13:53 AM »
Oh nosh, you didn't just go there! Samsung should have played that in court. Agree with everything 40hz has said. Steve Jobs has to be the biggest turd ever to be dropped on tech. Frankly, I'm glad he's dead, and it's already fun seeing Samsung and others out-innovate (Galaxy Tablet 10.1) Apple from here on out. That neither our "media" nor either presidential candidate has said one word about this runaway patent BS shows everyone is in it for one reason: da money.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2012, 06:11:22 AM »

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2012, 06:17:16 AM »
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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2012, 06:22:39 AM »
@Renegade
Mostly hoax but I am curious does required amount of such coins really exist.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2012, 07:17:00 AM »
The problem with all war is that one wins!

No matter who wins here, we the user will lose. The winner will pass the expenses to us.

Monopoly increases the price and competition decreases it. We have seen that in mobile service recently.

I hope better sense prevail and the common people do not get to suffer. The billions asked by one and paid by other is peanuts to them. It is just media frenzy for trp.

Regards,

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2012, 07:29:52 AM »
@Renegade
Mostly hoax but I am curious does required amount of such coins really exist.

Apparently not:

http://www.wisdompor...ency/USCurrency.html

But that's a bit dated.

The UK has about 28 billion coins in circulation:

http://www.royalmint...om/discover/uk-coins

I know how this can be fixed! BEN BERNANKE! He loves this kind of thing~! :P
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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2012, 08:18:46 AM »
Apple and all the other big players will continue to get away with stealing innovations and claiming them as their own thanks to the recent changes made to the US patent law.

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With the America Invents Act of 2011, which was signed by President Obama on September 16, 2011[8] The law will switch U.S. right to the patent from the present "first-to-invent" system to a "first-to-file" system for patent applications filed on or after March 16, 2013 [9] Many legal scholars[10][11][12] have commented that such a change would require a constitutional amendment. Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the US Constitution gives Congress the power to “promote the Progress of ... useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to ... Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective ... Discoveries.” These scholars argue that this clause specifically prohibits a first-to-file system because the term "inventor" refers to a person who has created something that has not existed before.

Under the first-to-invent system, when two people claim the same invention, the USPTO would institute an interference proceeding between them to review evidence of conception, reduction to practice and diligence.

What this effectively does is remove the argument of "prior art" from the formula. As long as you have a large enough staff - and deep enough pockets for the filing fees - you can flood the patent examiners' desks and thereby guarantee that nothing rational will emerge from the USPTO ever again.

Once this is in place after mid-March 2013, the parties with the most money can jam the entire system indefinitely. Especially since the legal argument over who actually invented something just got thrown out the window.

So now the new mantra will be: File Early - File Often.

About the only hope for this will be if some US judge takes a cue from the South Korean judge and determines that all smartphone companies and their products are infringing on the patents of one or more of all the others - and therefore bans the sales of all smartphones in the USA. And said ban will continue in effect until such time as the companies finally get together and work out a cross-licensing plan they can all agree to.

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"Let the child be divided." (3000 years later - King Solomon still RULZ!) ;D :P

But that would probably be making what the real problem is too obvious for comfort. So i guess I won't hold my breath waiting. And truth is, Apple would rather see the entire world go down in flames than concede a single inch.
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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2012, 11:23:52 AM »
It appears obvious to me that the USPTO is the answer to the question: What do you get when you cross a Vogon with a Ferengi.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2012, 01:09:44 PM »
Oh my... :facepalm:


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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2012, 07:11:04 PM »
Is it legal in the US to give an interview like that? In the UK jurors are not allowed to discuss the jury room process outside the room even after the trial is over - and I would guess especially when an appeal is pending ???

Also most of what was described seemed (to my limited knowledge) to be about Android? So why was Google not in the dock instead of Samsung?

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2012, 07:56:46 PM »
Interesting that he repeatedly says "...and I said to the jury", Instead of saying I said to my fellow jurors. He sort of puts himself above the rest in a position of authority...and you can bet your ass he (and his pontificating to a bunch of sheeple) is the sole reason apple won.

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2012, 09:02:16 PM »
^Bingo! (Baaa!)

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2012, 08:10:02 AM »


Spoiler
Be it a Galaxy Nexus, it's even better and cheaper!  ;D


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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2012, 08:40:44 AM »
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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2012, 08:43:38 AM »
Where did that "ad" come from? Is it a real ad or an Interwebz special?

Meanwhile, if you're gonna lose a billion dollar lawsuit, use the results!

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2012, 08:45:03 AM »
So the Samsung Galaxy S3 is like an iPhone with a good antenna?

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Re: Apple v Samsung Verdict is in
« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2012, 08:45:47 AM »
Surely not a real ad. They don't get this good!  ;D