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« on: May 23, 2012, 04:05:55 PM » |
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hello! I want to create an outline like this:  is there a program or a way to easily create a program that can do this? in a file that can be transfered to another pc and be viewed/edited there without the need to install anything, would be perfect! thanks! |
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tomos
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 04:26:40 PM » |
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Do you mean like a "normal" outliner like this:  When you say "in a file that can be transfered to another pc and be viewed/edited there without the need to install anything" do you mean the database should include "File1" etc ? I know InfoQube is portable - I'm not sure whether it stores files in a folder associated with the database, or if it just links to them wherever they are on the drive. It's a commercial product but is in beta and probably will be for a while still. Has some quirks, some people seem to cope, some not  - the forum is very helpful.  (I attached a PDF file to the selected item - shows in the "HTML Pane" where you could also add: notes AND/OR web content OR files) |
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 04:29:46 PM » |
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yes, I mean that screenshot you posted I will check InfoQube out, thanks! Has some quirks, some people seem to cope, some not since you gave me a good start, I will move forward, a good way of which is to search for "than infoqube" this search method ocassionally returns diamonds any other searching method you may use ? (a bit out of topic, I know  ) |
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 04:33:05 PM » |
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yes, I mean that screenshot you posted
I will check InfoQube out, thanks!
Forum is here. I'm Tom there - I tend to help the beginners as I'm not a power user ;-) |
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 05:06:24 PM » |
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>> When you say "in a file that can be transfered to another pc and be viewed/edited there without the need to install anything" do you mean the database should include "File1" etc ?
exactly
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 05:17:57 PM » |
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do you think an advanced xml creator/editor/viewer would be more powerful, handy, efficient, etc?
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 05:50:55 PM » |
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>> When you say "in a file that can be transfered to another pc and be viewed/edited there without the need to install anything" do you mean the database should include "File1" etc ?
exactly
IQ uses a database file and an associated folder (within the [portable] app folder) for the HTML/MHT content (notes/saved web pages). It looks like files are not automatically stored in the database or associated folder - you could manually copy the file to the relveant folder and then link to the database. You *can* make notes/saved-web-content be part of the database, but not files. You may well find a better solution for that - I'm not familiar with other outliners. Ultrarecall used to be popular - not sure if it's fully alive (?) I'm sure there's other options out there. |
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 06:09:09 PM » |
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I want to create an outline like this: For these types of things, I like to use Blumind. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 06:37:24 PM » |
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ability to view/edit doc/pdf/xls/txt/jpg/etc inside the program (in a pane)
ability to flageach entry in the tree, via tickbox, coloring, etc
ability to save inserted files
are all must
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 08:23:08 PM » |
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ability to view/edit doc/pdf/xls/txt/jpg/etc inside the program (in a pane)
ability to flageach entry in the tree, via tickbox, coloring, etc
ability to save inserted files
are all must
view/edit *all* those filetypes " inside" the programme - I doubt that exists. I'd be surprised (but interested) if you find anything that can even edit all those filetypes via an external editor... IQ will edit office files -via MS Office- if you have it installed. Note: currently some people are having a problem with displaying office filetypes in IQ due to a problem with IE (the current viewer engine), and MS deciding we cannot really mess around with filtype associations in Vista/Windows7. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 01:36:25 AM » |
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ability to view/edit doc/pdf/xls/txt/jpg/etc inside the program (in a pane)
ability to flageach entry in the tree, via tickbox, coloring, etc
ability to save inserted files
are all must
view/edit *all* those filetypes " inside" the programme - I doubt that exists. but programs like Universal Viewer can open all that kind of files inside a pane |
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 04:18:10 AM » |
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ability to view/edit doc/pdf/xls/txt/jpg/etc inside the program (in a pane)
ability to flageach entry in the tree, via tickbox, coloring, etc
ability to save inserted files
are all must
view/edit *all* those filetypes " inside" the programme - I doubt that exists. but programs like Universal Viewer can open all that kind of files inside a pane and edit? |
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 04:49:27 AM » |
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ability to view/edit doc/pdf/xls/txt/jpg/etc inside the program (in a pane)
ability to flageach entry in the tree, via tickbox, coloring, etc
ability to save inserted files
are all must
view/edit *all* those filetypes " inside" the programme - I doubt that exists. but programs like Universal Viewer can open all that kind of files inside a pane and edit? okay, I can accept lack of ability to edit :/ but I need to view the files in pane and to mark the nodes (treeview entries) with a status (completed, filled, empty, etc) |
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 05:11:16 AM » |
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but I need to view the files in pane
and to mark the nodes (treeview entries) with a status (completed, filled, empty, etc)
I would have thought that there's a lot of outliners there that can do that. Have you done a search on dc for pims/outliners? InfoQube is incredibly flexible (which can make it challenging to learn). It's easy to try out as it's portable -but- - it might be a lot more than what you actually need
- *some* people are having problems with the viewer at the moment (FWIW I'm having the same problems with XYplorer which also uses IE in it's viewer pane)
- it is in beta
these might interest you: What are some one-of-a-kind outlining tools? (Quora, includes a very good description of InfoQube) web outliners (free) but what you're loking for is not rocket science, so what you need is not really a "one of a kind"  |
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2012, 05:43:28 AM » |
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you are right, but there is a problem with inserting files most of outliners have an RTF editor, which is good ofcourse, but they allow me to insert pdf files only as in MS Word:  which results in a box, where either nothing of the pdf is shown, or at best, the first page of the pdf is shown |
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 02:44:34 PM » |
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I still cant find a solution
there are various programs that display inserted files in a view pane, but they lack a treeview organizer/outliner and vice versa
I wonder if there is a way that I can easily and fast, create a program with those two features (and possibly others)
maybe create an xml file that can do all these, inside a web browser?
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 04:50:17 PM » |
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I still cant find a solution
there are various programs that display inserted files in a view pane, but they lack a treeview organizer/outliner and vice versa what apps have you tried? |
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 04:53:09 PM » |
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All the above mentioned, plus all outliners and PIMs listed in wikipedia
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tomos
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 05:01:28 PM » |
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You've been busy!
It seems with InfoQube that office files are only displayed if you have MS Office installed. (It currently uses IE for the viewer - which seems to require Office.)
So it will only fulfill your requirements if you have Office...
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 10:53:50 PM » |
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What about pdf?
I work very often with pdf
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2012, 02:46:38 AM » |
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What about pdf?
I work very often with pdf
I thought you said you tried it  PDF no problem here |
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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2012, 08:34:46 AM » |
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What about pdf?
I work very often with pdf
I thought you said you tried it PDF no problem here you are right but it's unacceptably slow to load :/ |
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 01:30:17 PM » |
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I still havent find a software that can do what I want:
- organize treeview entries, where treeview entry can be a text, pdf, doc, jpg, xls, etc
- open the files inside the program, in a view pane
- be able to edit the files inside the program
- be able to add notes
- save all the above files and treeview data into a single file
I recently figured out that reference management software may have similar structure, but I didnt find any (the internal viewer part is the hardest)
any hint?
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