ATTENTION: You are viewing a page formatted for mobile devices; to view the full web page, click HERE.

Main Area and Open Discussion > General Software Discussion

Splinter

<< < (5/29) > >>

TaoPhoenix:
Hmm. Thank you for the nice response!

/Quick Ruthlessly Ugly App/Feature: Just Click randomly on your desktop and start typing a memo, your choice of font size and color, but not "encased" in anything, with ability to maybe Hide/Show and move it around so when you move your folders around you move your text memos. Edit: Double Click to Hide - Show.When it "Hides" it becomes one of those little Splotchy things.

NSFW: (Am I the only one that moves my icons to accomodate a nice busty babe as wallpaper!?  8)    )
-TaoPhoenix (May 04, 2012, 07:13 PM)
--- End quote ---

Well, it COULD be, that Splinter would not be for you. I mean, if you are actually happy with 85 icons, 60 of them folders on the desktop, always looking the same and being completely "separate" and un-integratable into any and all wallpap----wait, that is it. It is the black background. I TOTALLY know what you mean, as I said, I used to be that way. First 15 years of my desktop experience, black background. I just see it differently now. (But I find it hard to believe that you 100% WANT EXACTLY 85 icons on screen at all times. Wouldnt you prefer, to have either more, or less? If less, then some current ones could be hidden as splicons and then opened when you wished. If you wished to have 150 links available, then could have those new ones hidden the same way. )

 Now, about this.----
/Quick Ruthlessly Ugly App/Feature: Just Click randomly on your desktop and start typing a memo, your choice of font size and color, but not "encased" in anything, with ability to maybe Hide/Show and move it around so when you move your folders around you move your text memos. Edit: Double Click to Hide - Show.When it "Hides" it becomes one of those little Splotchy things.

I am sorry, I do not have any idea if this is a question or statement or if it is translated incorrectly, lol. I am sure it is funny though, judging by the sentence following it.
-dmd7978 (May 04, 2012, 07:51 PM)
--- End quote ---

Again thank you for replying!

So let's see here... I like my 85 items, because they do 85 things, into about 40 new things in the cases of the folders. So I wouldn't really want to expand it much over 100, except for a little clarity in a totally overloaded folder.

Less? Not really - I'm not really a fan of the google-Esque "let's mash 7 menu items worth of options under a gear wheel" approach.

And none of it is funny - I do want to be able to just randomly type text objects that are like 1-3 day reminders that I can drag around like any other desktop object. (Amazing how rare that is for a simple concept!) (Well except the NSFW moving icons part.) But none of the rest is funny - it's an app/feature. He Who Builds The Feature Wins. See Mouser for my rant about when the World's Leading Screen Capture Utility failed to (as of X build, later fixed by the generous graciousness of Mouser) cover the single low level use case I actually used.

Whew! A Lot of words!



dmd7978:
Hmm. Thank you for the nice response!

/Quick Ruthlessly Ugly App/Feature: Just Click randomly on your desktop and start typing a memo, your choice of font size and color, but not "encased" in anything, with ability to maybe Hide/Show and move it around so when you move your folders around you move your text memos. Edit: Double Click to Hide - Show.When it "Hides" it becomes one of those little Splotchy things.

NSFW: (Am I the only one that moves my icons to accomodate a nice busty babe as wallpaper!?  8)    )
-TaoPhoenix (May 04, 2012, 07:13 PM)
--- End quote ---

Well, it COULD be, that Splinter would not be for you. I mean, if you are actually happy with 85 icons, 60 of them folders on the desktop, always looking the same and being completely "separate" and un-integratable into any and all wallpap----wait, that is it. It is the black background. I TOTALLY know what you mean, as I said, I used to be that way. First 15 years of my desktop experience, black background. I just see it differently now. (But I find it hard to believe that you 100% WANT EXACTLY 85 icons on screen at all times. Wouldnt you prefer, to have either more, or less? If less, then some current ones could be hidden as splicons and then opened when you wished. If you wished to have 150 links available, then could have those new ones hidden the same way. )

 Now, about this.----
/Quick Ruthlessly Ugly App/Feature: Just Click randomly on your desktop and start typing a memo, your choice of font size and color, but not "encased" in anything, with ability to maybe Hide/Show and move it around so when you move your folders around you move your text memos. Edit: Double Click to Hide - Show.When it "Hides" it becomes one of those little Splotchy things.

I am sorry, I do not have any idea if this is a question or statement or if it is translated incorrectly, lol. I am sure it is funny though, judging by the sentence following it.
-dmd7978 (May 04, 2012, 07:51 PM)
--- End quote ---

Again thank you for replying!

So let's see here... I like my 85 items, because they do 85 things, into about 40 new things in the cases of the folders. So I wouldn't really want to expand it much over 100, except for a little clarity in a totally overloaded folder.

Less? Not really - I'm not really a fan of the google-Esque "let's mash 7 menu items worth of options under a gear wheel" approach.

And none of it is funny - I do want to be able to just randomly type text objects that are like 1-3 day reminders that I can drag around like any other desktop object. (Amazing how rare that is for a simple concept!) (Well except the NSFW moving icons part.) But none of the rest is funny - it's an app/feature. He Who Builds The Feature Wins. See Mouser for my rant about when the World's Leading Screen Capture Utility failed to (as of X build, later fixed by the generous graciousness of Mouser) cover the single low level use case I actually used.

Whew! A Lot of words!




-TaoPhoenix (May 04, 2012, 08:01 PM)
--- End quote ---

No need to thank ME, thank YOU.

The text typing, will, likely, never be integrated into Splinter. But Splinter, due to its fundamental hotlinking ability, is able to integrate ANY other desktop application into a splinterface. It isn't wise to try to do better what other apps were designed to do. Splinter does what it is designed to do best, access information. And it is able to do that, in part, when other apps whose features are not Spli-specialties, are integrated into splinterfaces.

Just like it does with Win Explorer. It doesn't interfere or go around, it just bosses it around and tells it how, more efficiently and effectively, access, locate, store, and share thngs, and Explorer obeys. EVERYTHING, within the desktop interface, other than the shell I guess, is 100% revolving around hot linking. Even text typers file launchers are locating the files the same way. An arrow pointing to where you want to go or what you want to get. Add to that list, the desktop background now able to be thought of just like a large, multi-linkable icon. It is the ability to link to things, in NUMEROUS new ways that Splinter does. That is all, really. Nothing more.

It uses hotlinking to create new ways to hotlink.

---Edit --- MAYBE some type of text typing would be implemented, don't know. Probably, I guess. I suppose it would be a very small memory layer and so would be foolish not to do it. However, it isn't NECESSARY, as it can just hotlink to "launchy" or whatever it is called. I have never been into the typers, is all.

Splinter DOES do this, kind of. Just does it as a preset typed link. In script tab, just type name of any file on pc, and when clicking that trigger, it will open it. Not the "exact" same thing, as there is the extra step of having to click "ok" in order to close dialog box and then click trigger.

TaoPhoenix:
Well there you have it, we have formed a UN pact of non-Aggression, however my one use case isn't yet covered. No intent to "guilt" here, just that I have seen a couple of times now that a super-high-end program sometimes misses the "low level apps". Conceptually, it's not tough. If my background is Black, my text should be White and Yellow. Just type. It makes an object. Maybe Scroll Bar to toggle font size. Then you click out, and click to drag it.

dmd7978:
I think that Splinter may not matter, to you, at all, if you are not also interested in the appearance of the desktop, as in being able to make it appear however you wish. Because you can get the functionalities it has, differently, by using other apps. Splinter only allows everything to 'come together", to all be part of the "same experience". When I say that Splinter allows for the integration of all other apps into the 'splinterface", I just mean a seamless desktop environment, not something above the desktop.

It is about making it all one "thing". Lke the wallpaper is not separate frm the icons which are not separate from the apps they open or the files that display information, etc. For me, it is much more immersive/comfortable experience when I am able to work with something getting close to the "everything interface". To me, it improves utilitarian aspects when I am not "pulled" from one thing and "put" into another.

And your request is a good one. I used to love that about linux shells. I will implement something very much along exactly the lines that you are talking about, actually. I just realized that the ability to open up a splicon that appears as any number of glowy text displays below the text, is ideal for this feature. Still, unless you care about appearance, wouldn't matter, as visuals are 98% of Splinter, due to the visual aspect EXPANDING the utilitarian abilities.

oblivion:
I get the impression from the above that one possible use of Splinter would be to have a rapid ability to switch between desktop environments. So instead of having everything you frequently use in one place, all the time, you could define a desktop for, I dunno, gaming, another for work, another for surfing... allow for all the crossover that happens between those things too. If I'm reading this stuff right, then an important marker of difference between the standard Windows desktop and Splinter could be that a "Splinter Desktop" isn't just a wallpaper, it's a wallpaper with embedded functionality. So if you can switch to a new desktop by choosing it off a pane of available desktops you can also be changing your working environment entirely, not just the way it looks.

Or am I still misunderstanding what this is supposed to be about?

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

Go to full version