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Author Topic: Most BitTorrent users being monitored by copyright agencies, study finds  (Read 3614 times)
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« on: September 05, 2012, 03:42:02 PM »

All BitTorrent pirates here that were bothered by the results of this article, reply with "Arghh!"

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 05:07:38 AM »

Go to ScanEye and click Check IP - see what it says you've torrented, (copyrighted stuff via public trackers only, AFAICT).

It picked up the one *cough* Linux ISO *cough* that I downloaded 3 months ago - imagine my horror when it turned out to be a movie 

Of course, if you use private trackers, encryption, etc then you'll understandably get not much.  If you use a VPN provider that dynamically allocates your gateway IP then you might get a list of files that others or yourself have torrented via that IP.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 06:46:13 AM »

Go to ScanEye and click Check IP - see what it says you've torrented, (copyrighted stuff via public trackers only, AFAICT).

Okay, that's a bit more than just a little spooky.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 06:56:02 AM »

Demonoid has few uploaders who used to keep tracking link and when people used to download from these type of uploaders, they used to get notice from the ISP. I remember comment from one of the seeder with this problem. I guess it was some old off the shelf documentary which was uploaded and shared. And now demonoid operators are behind the bars.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 07:02:40 AM »

Of course, if you use private trackers, encryption, etc then you'll understandably get not much.  If you use a VPN provider that dynamically allocates your gateway IP then you might get a list of files that others or yourself have torrented via that IP.
Encryption will help against MITM snooping, but won't stop tracking you when the observers partake in the same swarm as you. Private trackers might take a little more effort to monitor (but how hard is it getting an invite to those places?), but might also be more interesting to target than the public trackers. VPN? Gotta trust the provider not to sell out their logs (and trust the ones that claim they don't keep logs) :-)

My IP is clean ^_^
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 10:24:17 AM »

The irony is that to track behaviour they are breaking the law!!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 11:02:41 AM »



My IP is squeaky-clean. Coincidence? You be the judge...Grin

The irony is that to track behaviour they are breaking the law!!!

When did that ever stop a corporate posse or bounty hunter?  undecided Wink
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 11:57:10 AM »

The irony is that to track behaviour they are breaking the law!!!
Which law? smiley

You can spy on a torrent swarm without downloading anything from it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 12:18:08 PM »

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Mine as well...
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 01:10:08 PM »

The irony is that to track behaviour they are breaking the law!!!
Which law? smiley

You can spy on a torrent swarm without downloading anything from it.

To be in the swarm monitoring they must be downloading illegal material too

Plus there must be some privacy issues (internationally) if they are potentially using it to personally identify people.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 01:40:49 PM »

Plus there must be some privacy issues (internationally) if they are potentially using it to personally identify people.

I don't know how it works in other places, but over here you can scream about privacy until you're blue in the face if such privacy would interfere with preventing or stopping an illegal activity. On paper it might make for a compelling argument. But in a courtroom your rights to privacy get very short shrift if you're being charged with a crime. Most judges and jurors simply don't want to hear it. Especially in cases where  "invasion of privacy" is offered as your primary defense argument against the charges being brought.

It's very difficult to get evidence thrown out of court despite how easy TV 'cop shows' make it out to be.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 02:08:25 PM »

To be in the swarm monitoring they must be downloading illegal material too
Nope.

And you don't even need to grab the .torrent if you've got it's infohash. Then you can simply ask the tracker for some peer IPs... you can then contact the peers and do normal bittorrent protocol communication to see which blocks they have, use extensions to get even more peers, etc. But you don't need to ever get any actual file data.

Of course, if you want to verify the a peer has the data it says it has, you'd need to retrieve blocks and check if their hashes match, which requires the hashblocks from the .torrent file.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2012, 02:09:06 PM »

To be in the swarm monitoring they must be downloading illegal material too

Is it still illegal to DL something if you own it, or are authorized by the legal owner to ascertain its availability?

Hacking is illegal ... Unless it is being done at the request of the targeted networks owner.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2012, 07:18:36 PM »

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Mine as well...



Just in case you don't get to see an example of its other output.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2012, 09:20:17 PM »

Mine is clean as well...  Evil
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 12:35:20 AM »

I also have a clean IP address!

I guess quite a few of us have VPN subscriptions~! tongue

Just kidding~! (Or not? tongue )

Maybe I only use my VPN subscription to help organize my War of 1812, 200th Anniversary Celebrations? tongue Grin
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 12:34:38 PM »

I guess quite a few of us have VPN subscriptions~! tongue

Just kidding~! (Or not? tongue )

Actually, I do have VPN subscriptions. Plus access to a dozen more through client owned networks I do work for.

But oddly enough, I have never downloaded a movie, game, or song I didn't specifically pay to download.

I'm such a Boy Scout about some things. Pretty sad huh? embarassed
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2012, 09:39:24 AM »

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Not sad: admirable!  Thmbsup
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