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Author Topic: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool  (Read 3108 times)

Carol Haynes

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iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« on: September 23, 2013, 03:32:39 AM »
OK - not really a surprise but the iPhone 5S fingerprint reader is not proving tough to be cracked.

Who ever thought it would be - its a scanner for heavens sake so if you can find something to scan (like a residual finger print) and perform a pretty trivial photoshop operation you have something to unlock a phone and read your partners secret sexts.

Did anyone really think this was secure technology? I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone argued this technology was revolutionary (apart from Apple's usual marketing hype and the fanboys brain dead response) - it has been around for years on cheap domestic laptops from a number of manufacturers (not that I have EVER seen anyone actually use it),

Sheesh ...

Further details on Gizmodo - and probably half the internet by the time you see this.

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 04:09:59 AM »
Well, they're working for the NSA, and does anyone really expect great workmanship from government contractors? ;D :P
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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 06:28:41 AM »
Well, they're working for the NSA, and does anyone really expect great workmanship from government contractors? ;D :P

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 07:24:10 AM »
Here are the details http://www.ccc.de/en...breaks-apple-touchid complete with video!

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 09:37:12 AM »
Here are the details http://www.ccc.de/en...breaks-apple-touchid complete with video!

That was hilarious! ;D  :Thmbsup:

Carol, I think you need to learn when to post things in the "silly humour" thread! :P ;D (Just kidding, but almost not kidding! :D )

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"In reality, Apple's sensor has just a higher resolution compared to the sensors so far. So we only needed to ramp up the resolution of our fake", said the hacker with the nickname Starbug, who performed the critical experiments that led to the successful circumvention of the fingerprint locking.

HAHAHAHA~!  :Thmbsup:

Hey, but I'm sure the NSA is getting better data now. ;) ;D

I posted a semi-related thread here:

http://www.donationc...ex.php?topic=36189.0

Again, more hilarity ensues.

My prediction for the next "security" feature is that we'll see "retina scans" or something else with the same results.

Here's a real security tip: Don't lose your device. :P :D
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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »
My prediction for the next "security" feature is that we'll see "retina scans" or something else with the same results.

Yes - either that or class actions for laser burns and blindness! Bad enough when an optician shines things in your eye - don't want tech companies poking about!

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 02:12:05 PM »
Anyone who thought that this was a security measure must be the same people that rely on the 4-digit pin on their iPhone.  It's a deterrent, nothing more.  And anyone who thinks anything otherwise should expect a world of pain when they are disabused of that notion.

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 03:42:08 PM »
It's a deterrent, nothing more.

I agree. The intended use of the PIN or the fingerprint scan is to make it so your kids or someone who finds (or steals) your phone will be unlikely to just use it for free calls or readily grab stuff from the device.

One could say that it's just as easy to make an imprint of a door key in clay to use as a template for making duplicate as evidence that door keys have been broken.  Even though that's true, most burglars won't even bother with that amount of trouble or subtlety. That doesn't mean door keys are completely useless, just that they're not a complete security solution.

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 03:48:09 PM »
One could say that it's just as easy to make an imprint of a door key in clay to use as a template for making duplicate as evidence that door keys have been broken.  Even though that's true, most burglars won't even bother with that amount of trouble or subtlety. That doesn't mean door keys are completely useless, just that they're not a complete security solution.

One difference is that you don't leave little imprints of your key everywhere you go like you leave your fingerprints on everything you touch.


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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 04:00:14 PM »
From the Gizmodo comments: http://kotaku.com/lo...pparently-1360743607

Ya just gotta love the Japanese.

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 06:35:29 PM »
From the Gizmodo comments: http://kotaku.com/lo...pparently-1360743607

Ya just gotta love the Japanese.

Secure phone - but in the wrong state in the US you would get a jail sentence everytime you used it!

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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 06:52:55 PM »
Secure phone - but in the wrong state in the US you would get a jail sentence everytime you used it!

Not for dudes.

Plus it would solve the problem of leaving little imprints of your key everywhere you go.  At least one would hope.


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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 12:00:41 AM »
From the Gizmodo comments: http://kotaku.com/lo...pparently-1360743607

Ya just gotta love the Japanese.

I was thinking that for guys' unique parts, that alone should serve as a deterrent against even touching someone else's device. ;D

In other news...

http://www.wired.com...cant-take-the-fifth/

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Apple’s Fingerprint ID May Mean You Can’t ‘Take the Fifth’

Yep. It gets worse.
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Re: iPhone 5S fingerprint system easy to fool
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 12:07:21 AM »
Ready? ;)

http://hackersnewsbu...base-shared-nsa.html

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BWAHAHAHA~!


(Satire - but still funny.)
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