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Author Topic: Program to control program  (Read 2993 times)

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Program to control program
« on: April 01, 2012, 03:50:21 AM »
 ;D
A strange title.
I refer to alternatives to ClickOff but more general. ClickOff have the ability to interact with the program to close some windows.
But it's resident all the time.
I refer to alternatives to RunAsDate but more general. RunAsDate have the ability to enclose the program in a sort of shell and is not resident all the time. Only when the main program is running.
I know we can control certain parameters of a program with the o.s. : By example with the properties of the shortlink of the main program.
I use Cobian Backup and other programs with the ability to run before or after the backup operation other programs.
Obviously I dream with the Universal handler able to control all my programs and interactions in an automated way.
I supposed this is not easy.
What I am looking now is a more powerful script than the one ClickOff is, but resident only when I am executing the main program. A sort of program like RunAsDate, but oriented to control windows messages like ClickOff does.
And if is able to do more things is welcome because of my dream.
 :P

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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 11:41:05 AM »
Are you really #sure# the 332kB ClickOff cannot do it?
If so, please tell more exactly what program it should 'master', and how.




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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 01:51:37 PM »
Hello Curt.
I have problems with ClickOff I don't understand. So I am looking for alternatives.
I haven't seen the possibility of create a sort of "Sandbox" with ClickOff.
Is resident all time.
 :-\

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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 02:04:19 PM »
Hello Curt.
I have problems with ClickOff I don't understand. So I am looking for alternatives.
I haven't seen the possibility of create a sort of "Sandbox" with ClickOff.
Is resident all time.
 :-\

There is a "scan windows" button that you can toggle on and off - does that help?

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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 02:24:10 PM »
Sorry I am looking for alternatives to ClickOff.
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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »
Did you look at Autoit or Autohotkey?
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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2012, 02:53:47 PM »
Did you look at Autoit or Autohotkey?

I suppose you are telling me about the script makers. I am looking for somethind done.
Best Regards
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Re: Program to control program
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 04:01:05 PM »
    I refer to alternatives to ClickOff but more general. ClickOff have the ability to interact with the program to close some windows.
    But it's resident all the time.
    [...]
    What I am looking now is a more powerful script than the one ClickOff is, but resident only when I am executing the main program.

    There are various alternatives to ClickOff, some free, some not.


    • PTFB Pro
      • Automatically respond to prompts, popups and information requests
      • From a simple button press to complex sequences of actions
      • Powerful, full featured auto clicker and macro recorder
      • Automatically restart programs that hang or are not responding
      • Resize and reposition windows whenever they appear
      • Packed full of features for professional environments
      • Quick & easy to use
    • RtvReco
      RtvReco is designed to automate many aspects of Windows, by pressing buttons in annoying dialog boxes, choosing menu items, maximising, and minimising windows for you.
    • PowerPro
      • Running commands: Tool bars, tray icons, hot keys, mouse actions, menus, timer, scheduler.
      • Controlling other program's windows: Close, minimize, maximize, roll-up to caption, tray minimize, position.
      • Providing utility functions: Send keystrokes to programs, run commands when windows first open, virtual desktops, clipboard extender, keyboard macros, shutdown, show all folder files in a menu, sounds, wallpaper, and screensaver activation and randomization.


    PowerPro is free.  The other two are payware, but there is certainly an old free version of PTFB around the net, and I think of RtvReco too.  I currently use the paid-for version of PTFB Pro.

    The problem is your requirement that they not be resident - I think they have to be, to work at all.  If you only want things to operate at certain times, there are ways round it.  For example, you could use the scheduler in PowerPro, or Kirby Alarm Pro, to only launch the programs at a certain time.  Then you could use the scheduler again with, say, Taskill to (brutally) kill the process at a later time.

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    Re: Program to control program
    « Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 05:50:26 PM »
      I refer to alternatives to ClickOff but more general. ClickOff have the ability to interact with the program to close some windows.
      But it's resident all the time.
      [...]
      What I am looking now is a more powerful script than the one ClickOff is, but resident only when I am executing the main program.

      There are various alternatives to ClickOff, some free, some not.


      • PTFB Pro
        • Automatically respond to prompts, popups and information requests
        • From a simple button press to complex sequences of actions
        • Powerful, full featured auto clicker and macro recorder
        • Automatically restart programs that hang or are not responding
        • Resize and reposition windows whenever they appear
        • Packed full of features for professional environments
        • Quick & easy to use
      • RtvReco
        RtvReco is designed to automate many aspects of Windows, by pressing buttons in annoying dialog boxes, choosing menu items, maximising, and minimising windows for you.
      • PowerPro
        • Running commands: Tool bars, tray icons, hot keys, mouse actions, menus, timer, scheduler.
        • Controlling other program's windows: Close, minimize, maximize, roll-up to caption, tray minimize, position.
        • Providing utility functions: Send keystrokes to programs, run commands when windows first open, virtual desktops, clipboard extender, keyboard macros, shutdown, show all folder files in a menu, sounds, wallpaper, and screensaver activation and randomization.


      PowerPro is free.  The other two are payware, but there is certainly an old free version of PTFB around the net, and I think of RtvReco too.  I currently use the paid-for version of PTFB Pro.

      The problem is your requirement that they not be resident - I think they have to be, to work at all.  If you only want things to operate at certain times, there are ways round it.  For example, you could use the scheduler in PowerPro, or Kirby Alarm Pro, to only launch the programs at a certain time.  Then you could use the scheduler again with, say, Taskill to (brutally) kill the process at a later time.

      I'll take a good look and comment.
      Best Regards

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      Re: Program to control program
      « Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 06:02:25 AM »
      Just checked in PTFB Pro; it turns out you don't even need an external scheduler.  It has a mini scheduler built in.  See screenshot attached. ;)

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      Re: Program to control program
      « Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 06:17:54 AM »
      Just checked in PTFB Pro; it turns out you don't even need an external scheduler.  It has a mini scheduler built in.  See screenshot attached. ;)

      Ohhhhh my god, a free and clever program. I'll try of course.
       :-*
      Best regards
       :P

      Ejem. Free not for the price. Free because of possibilities.

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      Re: Program to control program
      « Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 08:19:32 AM »
      I have begin with PowerPro.
      What I really think about myself begin to be : "comodón" , because I don't see directly the option  :(
      Obviously seems a very good program.

      http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/249/mozart04042012141034.png
      Program to control program



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      Re: Program to control program
      « Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 12:52:08 PM »
      RtvReco seems a more simple and clear program.
      Allows to control, in the free or trial mode, up to five windows.

      http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8264/mozart04042012142136.png
      Program to control program

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      Re: Program to control program
      « Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 12:58:01 PM »
      the third option is obviously the best for general and wide purposes.
      My election is RtvReco by simplicity. And because I want to run in a virtual machine with an old program. So five windows is enough for me.

      Best Regards