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Author Topic: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music  (Read 2480 times)

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YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« on: February 26, 2012, 11:42:19 PM »
Be careful when recording nature. Those birds may be singing copyrighted tunes.  :huh:

http://c4sif.org/201...s-copyrighted-music/

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 03:12:35 AM »
Well, birds don't pay taxes, so obviously someone needs to exploit them another way. Isn't human ingenuity a wonderful thing? :-\

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 06:45:49 AM »
The sad part is the amount of time and effort it will cost the guy to get the video cleared. Because once you get caught up in the system ... regardless of the outcome ... You lose.

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 07:17:56 AM »
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

I want to vomit...

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 07:44:39 AM »
This seems absurd.
I thought it was a joke until I read the post at the link.

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 08:32:11 AM »
Saw reddit going mad over this too. Personally I prefer the slightly more accurate title of "Computer algorithm gets false positive".

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 09:16:26 AM »
Saw reddit going mad over this too. Personally I prefer the slightly more accurate title of "Computer algorithm gets false positive".

False positive would be the logical conclusion, but the user seems to claim otherwise:

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I disputed their claim with YouTube’s system — and Rumblefish refuted my dispute, and asserted that: ‘All content owners have reviewed your video and confirmed their claims to some or all of its content: Entity: rumblefish; Content Type: Musical Composition.’ So I asked some questions, and it appears that the birds singing in the background of my video are Rumblefish’s exclusive intellectual property.”

or are they being sarcastic there at the end :-\
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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 10:29:20 AM »
The post linked to a Youtube support thread that has a post that states the following:

Is this a freak occurrence?

NO! It is a very common occurrence. It is a well-known error. One person has had to file over 100 disputes for mistaken bird sounds. For some reason Google is reluctant to fix this so companies like rumblefish take advantage of it to gain fraudulent income (google makes something also).

Companies registering reference file with the CID are required to manually review any disputed video but rumblefish is one of many companies who just automatically confirm the content regardless of how ridiculous the match is.

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 12:50:49 PM »
Whenever Youtube is unable or unwilling to fix this and users fear legal issues, one could look into alternatives. That kind of failure is unacceptable. Sure it can happen, but not that often.

Vimeo looked promising so far.

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Re: YouTube Identifies Birdsong As Copyrighted Music
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 11:30:01 PM »
Whenever Youtube is unable or unwilling to fix this and users fear legal issues, one could look into alternatives. That kind of failure is unacceptable. Sure it can happen, but not that often.

Vimeo looked promising so far.

Vimeo is EXCELLENT!

Though I don't know much about them and these kinds of issues -- never heard any complaints about them before... Should be a good thing! :)
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