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Author Topic: SOPA Shelved - ACTA is Worse  (Read 5508 times)
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 08:18:19 PM »

Three posts from techdirt and a fourth from another source. Together they could provide a snapshot perspective and background to the rolling assault on freedoms posed by SOPA-->ACTA-->TPPA.
(TPPA is the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement and is arguably potentially worse than ACTA - which latter might be a done deal unless the belated Submit ACTA To The Senate For Ratification petition has some effect.)

I have copied the posts in the spoilers, below, and emboldened a few lines for emphasis, but some of the posts contain embedded links that I have not copied (too much trouble to do in in this forum, sorry), so, if you want to see/follow the links, then you will need to go to the actual post containing them.

Some people might say that the applicable turn of phase to apply in this sort of case could be:
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2011-09-27: US, EU, Canada, Japan, Australia & Others To Sign ACTA This Weekend, Despite Legal Concerns

2102-01-24: What Is ACTA And Why Is It A Problem?

2012-01-25: New Petition Asks White House To Submit ACTA To The Senate For Ratification

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 01:24:15 AM »

Maybe aggressive defence might be a good strategy to protect further erosion of freedoms: It’s Time To Go On The Offensive For Freedom Of Speech
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 01:59:37 AM »

Maybe aggressive defence might be a good strategy to protect further erosion of freedoms: It’s Time To Go On The Offensive For Freedom Of Speech

That anyone would ever need to write something so utterly nuts is proof of how completely insane the system has become.

I don't mean to disparage the article there -- hell... I agree with it. But the fact that it has become necessary is just lunacy.

The pure, simple, trivial fact remains... NONE of this would be necessary if governments abided by the the rule of law or followed the law themselves. e.g. In the United States, the US Constitution (perhaps one of the most beautiful documents ever written) is clear in that it would not allow any of this insanity.


This is what the emergence of the police state looks like. This is what the birth of tyranny looks like. This is what the beginnings of enslavement look like. This is what the authors of the US Constitution wished to prevent.


Right now the offensive can still be peaceful... That window of opportunity is quickly disappearing, and we all know what that means... Violent revolution in the name of freedom or submission to tyrants. I refer back to those quotes by JFK and Thomas Jefferson. I believe they were correct.




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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 08:00:16 AM »

That anyone would ever need to write something so utterly nuts is proof of how completely insane the system has become.
Is that borne out historically? Is it such a surprise?
I'm a bit vague on the history, but I gather that, before you had the US Constitution, human conditions and the conflict between religio-political ideologies which resulted from the then status quo were bad enough that they fuelled a civil war.
After the Constitution, that became a new status quo. The problem is that it now doesn't suit some people/organisations who/that were content to grow in the status quo. But things change and for whatever reason you now have people and organisations with conflicting sets of religio-political ideologies and objectives, which means that they must attack the Constitution at its roots if they want to change things to suit their peculiar objectives.

Aggressive defence per the article above might be the only way to retain that rather precious Constitution. Aggressive defence is a recommended strategy in war and chess as well.

Passive defence could probably be perceived as weakness, and exploited as such, and that is arguably why the Constitution has possibly already been successfully eroded to some extent, in certain areas. There are even government-funded NGO or administrative functions (e.g., including such as the the EPA, TSA, Homeland Security) effectively taking on the responsibility for propaganda and extra-military and extra-police/judicial (lawmaking) roles in society, regarding security and the environment.

That's arguably your emergent "police state", right there.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 08:10:47 AM »

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That anyone would ever need to write something so utterly nuts is proof of how completely insane the system has become.

I don't mean to disparage the article there -- hell... I agree with it. But the fact that it has become necessary is just lunacy.

The pure, simple, trivial fact remains... NONE of this would be necessary if governments abided by the the rule of law or followed the law themselves. e.g. In the United States, the US Constitution (perhaps one of the most beautiful documents ever written) is clear in that it would not allow any of this insanity.


This is what the emergence of the police state looks like. This is what the birth of tyranny looks like. This is what the beginnings of enslavement look like. This is what the authors of the US Constitution wished to prevent.

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2012, 01:23:58 AM »

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What was it I said above?
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