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SOPA: Alt view - You need to be Shakespeare or Picasso to Avoid Content Scraping

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Renegade:
@Ren, I'm not supporting SOPA in the way it is mixed with political motives. But original intention of SOPA was to protect someone's intellectual property. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of expression doesn't mean stealing and if it means that there should be open stealing then I guess we're inviting flawed socialism with broken communist and capitalist model all in one by crushing authors/artists revenue model.
-mahesh2k (January 27, 2012, 10:56 AM)
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We already have lots of laws for copyright, but they don't seem to be enforced much. Things like SOPA aren't the right way to go about it though. We need some kind of due process.

mahesh2k:
I helped with hostgator application and it seems hg staff removed the articles. I don't know if that site is going to take rest of the copied content. Not my problem with all that stuff. But if anyone wants to prove the content ownership, use web archive for the cached text and also google index has earlier date. This makes things easy for proving text based  content's origin. There's no way to help in case of graphics. It'll be reused unless there is watermark or some sort of protection.

cybermen007:
I know the owner of that site personally. I used to work with him. Also i spoke with him about that copy content problem. And i found this website when i was making a search about it. That copy content situation was happened because of his editor. He's got many websites. Maybe hundreds. And each website has got on editor or more editors. And one of the editor from india copied all content and just changed the title. And he removed all the articles one by one if he see the copyrighted content and complaint. But he doesn't want to close the website for such thing even he doesn't care that website much. It hasn't got much visitors and there's no ad and income. It's just a website with a nice domain. But i see some people threaten him. I can tell he's got high programming skills. And he's well experienced on all internet stuff. So if someone want to make a war with him he should have been well prepared for that. He's a nice guy anyway. If i was him and someone show me such aggressive reaction i would carry the website out of usa. Then i would send all those articles to the other websites with mass submiting bots. I can submit your copyrighted article to 200.000 forum, 200.000 blog, 10.000 article website, and thousands of guestbooks etc... only in 48 hours. Then you will have to send DMCA complaint everyday in the rest of your life :)

Renegade:
I can submit your copyrighted article to 200.000 forum, 200.000 blog, 10.000 article website, and thousands of guestbooks etc... only in 48 hours. Then you will have to send DMCA complaint everyday in the rest of your life :)
-cybermen007 (February 01, 2012, 09:18 AM)
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Sounds like a perfect strategy for the XXAA Mafia to pursue.

40hz:

But i see some people threaten him. I can tell he's got high programming skills. And he's well experienced on all internet stuff. So if someone want to make a war with him he should have been well prepared for that. He's a nice guy anyway. If i was him and someone show me such aggressive reaction i would carry the website out of usa. Then i would send all those articles to the other websites with mass submiting bots. I can submit your copyrighted article to 200.000 forum, 200.000 blog, 10.000 article website, and thousands of guestbooks etc... only in 48 hours. Then you will have to send DMCA complaint everyday in the rest of your life :)
-cybermen007 (February 01, 2012, 09:18 AM)
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Sounds a bit like a threat...

I'm not sure how you could reconcile being a "nice guy" with doing something along the lines of what you're suggesting however.

It would also be a vastly out of proportion response to what happened. He was asked to remove content that had been copied word for word from someone else's site. He sent back a letter which basically said: Go to hell. I'm not in the US so there's nothing you can do to stop me.  It was only after a person-to-person and unofficial attempt to resolve the situation failed that a more official set of actions took place. So if anybody is responsible for what happened, it was you acquaintance's editor - first by borrowing the content without permission - and then by insulting and mocking the content creator when she asked for the article to be removed form his website.

But either way he was not "attacked" by the content creator. He simply suffered the consequences of his own personal decision to refuse to remove content he had no legal or moral right to post on his website. It only went the way it did in response to his actions. And it could have gone a totally different way if he had handled it in a less arrogant and defiant manner. But no matter how yo wish to characterize it, it was not a "attack" against him.

Behaving like this editor has the unfortunate effecy of also adding further fuel to the arguments for bills such as ACTA, SOPA, and PIPA - all which have justified their necessity by pointing out how someone in a country outside the US could do as you've suggested with impunity.

By behaving the way he did, he played into the hands of those screaming for further constraints and censorship up on the web. And by doing so, he increases the risk of increased hurt  - not only himself - but to the rest of us as well. Because those draconian laws being proposed will hurt all of us.

So thanks for your input. (And welcome to DonationCoder BTW!  :)) But it doesn't help your 'acquaintance' (or those of us who are attempting to stop, or rein in, things like SOPA and ACTA) by suggesting hypothetical(?) threats like using mass submitting bots to further compound the wrongful act of scraping someone's web content without permission. And that's something which remains morally wrong regardless of what the law may say wherever the scraper happens to live.

It's a global community. People need to start acting like it is before the hands of authority descend upon us and turn what was once 'our web' into a global and governmentally operated panopticon.

Take a look around you. The transition has already started. :(

Just my 2¢

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