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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 11:58:33 AM »

I've just seen some news on how reddit convinced a lot of people to call for their senators, donate money to them for future campaign, but the most pro-sopa senator are still determined to pass the law. I didn't realised how corrupted the system is, now I do, and I suppose it's probably only the tip of the iceberg. I don't say that about the US only actually, this as much as true for France.

This law basically gives the right to the media company to shut down any business, association, forums that use his website as a way to communicate. Why should a business have such a right on everything ? Google, Youtube, etc... would have been shutted down in their infancy if this law existed by then.

That's an absurdity. Especially since they are the same paranoid people who warn you that you shouldnt pirate the dvd you've paid. I suppose we'll see a warning that we shouldn't pirate every time we open a browser anytime soon for 2 minutes like on dvd.

I'll be very sad if this pass.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2012, 12:09:44 PM »

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I suppose we'll see a warning that we shouldn't pirate every time we open a browser anytime soon for 2 minutes like on dvd.

tbh, any website worth visiting right now, will be shut down within minutes of the bill passing.

I can see Facebook, Google, Twitter, Bing, Mediafire, Imageshack, eBay, and many many more, (Including DonationCoder) being offline on the 1st Feb, if this new 'law' passes.

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2012, 12:22:53 PM »

Maybe some heads should roll again while chanting 'Vive la revolucion!'. (in a good old fashioned French tradition...)
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2012, 12:23:53 PM »

This is a very interesting article...

http://www.forbes.com/sit...pa-we-can-do-it-for-them/

Ive done their Facebook Album idea (I did it now, as it offers people more time to see it)

http://www.facebook.com/m...p;type=1&l=cb159a4a29
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2012, 12:29:20 PM »

No, the fido.net was not a mistuk.
It exists and, if you read the background and related material, you will probably see why it's called that. It doesn't appear to be a scam riding illegitimately on Fidonet's coattails, or anything similar.

Even if they were trying to ride on Fidonet's coattails there's nothing that could be done about it.

IIRC Fidonet and Fido were never registered as trademarks (since there was no business) or set up as any sort of formal organization. It was just a peer maintained network of volunteers. Knowing Tom Jennings avowedly anarchist political leanings, I doubt he would have allowed any formalization of his creation - even though he probably couldn't have done anything about it if it had happened. Because copyright was generally not considered applicable to software code, and the USPTO was still intelligent enough not to be issuing patents for software or business methods back then.

Simpler times... smiley

And no lawyers.  cheesy

No wonder so much got done so fast - and so well. Thmbsup

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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2012, 12:30:51 PM »

Maybe some heads should roll again while chanting 'Vive la revolucion!'. (in a good old fashioned French tradition...)

Not a bad idea. I'm getting a little behind with my knitting. And I could use an afternoon off. Grin


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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2012, 01:14:40 PM »

Interesting : White House concerned over online piracy bills (AP)
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2012, 01:21:34 PM »

@Renegade - Thx for that video. As someone who has also been ordered and escorted out of a municipal meeting for being out of order, I can appreciate what went down, and the outrage it caused. (I had asked the chairman if his board had the legal authority to do what they were doing since the issue clearly fell outside of the stated function of their department as defined by town ordinance - and likely outside their range of expertise and ability based on how badly it was being handled.) The cops were apologetic while escorting me out. And I knew them both personally, so I didn't push it. Besides, I have a rule about that.*

Most of the people at the meeting got pretty pissed. Including the ones that disagreed with me. Thankfully there's still some New England Yankee left in the local mindset. We might want to punch you in the mouth for something you said. But we'd also just as readily punch out the first person who tried to keep you from saying it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2012, 01:32:10 PM »


Can you say: 'backpedaling' and 'damage control'?

If they felt that strongly why don't they promise to veto these bills?

Dear Mr. President and all your hand-wringing White House Staff - please see #5 and #6 below:

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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2012, 07:01:21 PM »

No, the fido.net was not a mistuk.
It exists and, if you read the background and related material, you will probably see why it's called that. It doesn't appear to be a scam riding illegitimately on Fidonet's coattails, or anything similar.

I did read it- I didn't see anything that would lend it to being called that, other than the fact that its been in business for a while and the owner's former links to fidonet...  not under about, testimonials, why choose, or any of the other links.  I guess I missed it.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2012, 09:38:26 PM »

Maybe some heads should roll again while chanting 'Vive la revolucion!'. (in a good old fashioned French tradition...)

Let's hope that it doesn't come to that.

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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2012, 09:45:09 PM »

Hey, here's a super easy way to redirect:

http://jaywa.lk/stop-sopa/

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Code To Make Your Website Black Against SOPA

Place this script on your Website between your two <head> </head> tags on Jan 18th. Then remove it on the 19th. It will jump your site to http://protestsopa.org/
 
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  1. <script type=text/javascript”>
  2.  
  3. window.location = ‘http://protestsopa.org/ ‘;
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2012, 10:02:21 PM »

Is it my imagination, or is this company using the name fido.net to sell services that have nothing to do with fidonet?

Check http://www.fidonet.org/

I think that was a typo.

No, the fido.net was not a mistuk.
It exists and, if you read the background and related material, you will probably see why it's called that. It doesn't appear to be a scam riding illegitimately on Fidonet's coattails, or anything similar.

I did read it- I didn't see anything that would lend it to being called that, other than the fact that its been in business for a while and the owner's former links to fidonet...  not under about, testimonials, why choose, or any of the other links.  I guess I missed it.

@wraith808: Well then, you probably read all that I read so would maybe not have "missed" anything in that sense.
I used the word "probably" above, for the simple reason that I wasn't sure whether it was certain that people would infer the same as I had from following the links.

What you may have missed, therefore, is what I inferred from my reading:
  • IF: There seems to be no connection between fido.net and Fidonet (other than maybe the website owner might have had a past association with and fondness for Fidonet in earlier days), and;
  • IF the Fido.net website does not appear to be selling anything related to what Fidonet was or offered (other than generic email services maybe), and;
  • IF it seems improbable that using the "Fido..." would mean much (if anything) to the market decision for buying Fido.net's relatively conventional ISP/hosting offerings, and;
  • IF the Fido.net domain had been available and snapped up because (say) it already had a fond or familar-sounding presence and would come up in searches, and;
  • IF that all translated in fact to Fido.net's sales having no likely correlation or relationship with a notional "Fidonet brand" or perception in the marketplace;
THEN It would probably not be true that "this company [is] using the name fido.net to sell services that have nothing to do with fidonet". (I mean, how could it be true?)

I apologise if this was obscure. I only intended to help to illuminate the gloom a bit.
This could be a polite way of saying that it might be your imagination, I suppose - oops, or maybe it's mine!     Wink
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2012, 10:17:17 PM »

Here's perhaps an easier way to redirect a site to a protest site. It relies on using templates/skins though (as above).

Just stick this script in your page template head:

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  2.  <!--
  3.    var curDate = new Date();
  4.    if (curDate.getFullYear() == '2012' && curDate.getMonth() == '0' && curDate.getDate() == '18')
  5.    {
  6.      window.location = 'http://americancensorship.org/'; // Link to any protest site here.
  7.    }
  8.  //-->
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2012, 10:30:41 PM »


Can you say: 'backpedaling' and 'damage control'?

If they felt that strongly why don't they promise to veto these bills?
Yes, well, when I read that about the "White House concerns" it looked to me like it was a potential classic, belated and cynical "Let's at least give the impression that we are serious about this - that we really mean it."
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"White House concerned over online piracy bills."  ... Yeah, right.
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2012, 10:46:26 PM »


Can you say: 'backpedaling' and 'damage control'?

If they felt that strongly why don't they promise to veto these bills?
Yes, well, when I read that about the "White House concerns" it looked to me like it was a potential classic, belated and cynical "Let's at least give the impression that we are serious about this - that we really mean it."
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"White House concerned over online piracy bills."  ... Yeah, right.

My reading of it was that it politely said, "Buzz off. We know you're pissed, but we're going to pass it anyways. Go **** yourselves."

Then again, that was what I read between the lines, and I could, just possibly, maybe, perhaps be a little, tiny bit cynical there.

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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2012, 07:34:43 AM »

This looks potentially pretty useful legwork: SOPA and PROTECT-IP: A Line-By-Line Analysis of the Bills We Must Kill
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2012, 10:07:42 PM »

If you use php as the page you can also use I am sure something like this for those who does not allow scripts it will still work...

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  2. if (date("Ymd") == "20120118")
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  4. header("Location: http://www.americancensorship.org/");
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2012, 10:14:08 PM »

Just a tiny comment...

Redirecting to http://protestsopa.org/ might be better as the page is simpler and easier to understand for people.

It links to other sites from there.

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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2012, 02:38:28 AM »

Now that will have shown 'em!
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« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 03:08:04 AM »

Now that will have shown 'em!

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Now, if only we could all come together to stop other really seriously evil legislation...

But hey - 1 victory is still 1 victory!


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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 03:17:40 AM »

A friend recommended I check this:

http://maddox.xmission.com/

I would STRONGLY recommend everyone here read that. It's excellent. Here's an excerpt:

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SOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a shitty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this shitty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dipshits who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.

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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 08:17:08 AM »

Societies eventually crumble under the evil weight of their own decadent greed. Human history shows this to be true. Woe to our children's children if the good old US of A doesn't shape up.
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2012, 10:57:08 AM »

Societies eventually crumble under the evil weight of their own decadent greed. Human history shows this to be true. Woe to our children's children if the good old US of A doesn't shape up.

Or should that be:

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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2012, 11:07:16 AM »

^ It's not necessarily the elite that cause that spiral.  In many cases, it's the little people that are co-enablers of the elite's ability to cause such damage, i.e. the US Political System.
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