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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 05:56:48 AM »

This thread inspired me to think of a short story I have fond memories of that I read in high school: The Ifth of Oofth (pdf link). It seems kind of silly now, and there is not much hard science there (not that I would care these days), but I LOVE the sense of impending doom at the end.
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 11:29:24 AM »

This Foundations find has renewed my interest in something from my childhood, which archive.org also has.

When I was a child, I remember sitting with my grandmother listening to CBS's Radio Mystery Theater.
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2011, 05:09:33 PM »

Speaking of sci/fi writers. I just watched another flick about Philip K. Dick. He was giving this speech in France at some Sci/Fi convention in the early 70's.  The woman who accompanied him is giving an interview about it in the documentary.  She talks about how she wanted to disappear because he was rambling this crazy stuff. But here's the funny part. He was talking about reality just being a computer program and if you get deja vu, it was because somebody changed a variable in the simulation. Everyone is wincing in discomfort at these ravings.  But I'm thinking, he thought of The Matrix 20 years before the Wachowski Brothers. Maybe they even saw the speech and got the idea from him?  smiley

It's just another angle on the "dollhouse god" concept, where reality is manipulated by some outside force or entity, as if it were nothing more than a child's toy to be played with.

Kind of like Glass Bead Game or Hercules and his antagonists being assisted and interfered with by the gods I suppose.  But the computer simulation bit was pretty specific. Sure made me think of Matrix. smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 05:12:57 PM »

An author I enjoyed that wasn't a big name was A. E. van Vogt. I was still in high school when I read The War Against the Rull and Slan. Good action stories. Maybe not that deep. But fun reading.

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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 05:22:40 PM »

An author I enjoyed that wasn't a big name was A. E. van Vogt.
I remember picking up one of his books that had, under his name, "The Slan Man." Sure suggested he was at least a reasonably big name smiley

I went through a phase where I'd have read pretty much anything by anyone John Campbell was prepared to put in Analog. Pretty sure Van Vogt fell in that category...

I was also a big fan of Harlan Ellison. Some great titles: things like "The Beast Who Shouted Love At The Heart Of The World" and "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream." (He wrote one of the best Star Treks ever, too.)
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2011, 05:52:41 PM »

The best I read with a telepathic lead character was the Psion trilogy by Joan D. Vinge.  That Cat character was the quintessential anti-hero.  James Dean with a laser beam. smiley

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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2011, 06:34:01 PM »

I was also a big fan of Harlan Ellison. Some great titles: things like "The Beast Who Shouted Love At The Heart Of The World" and "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream." (He wrote one of the best Star Treks ever, too.)

Me too. A brilliant and infuriating author if ever there was one.

IMHO, his single most creative piece of work was the parable: "Repent, Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman.

The story behind this dual Nebula and Hugo Award winner is almost as interesting as the story itself.

Also +1 on the StarTrek episode entitled The City on the Edge of Forever. It was arguably the finest moment in that show's long history, even though fans of  The Trouble With Tribbles, Menagerie, The Balance of Terror, and Mirror, Mirror will disagree on that point.

I was a fan of his other little known 1973 TV series The Starlost. It's now available on DVD and worth a watch (even though Harlan Ellison disowned it in typical Harlan Ellison fashion before it even got released) if you can tolerate the terrible low-budget look and 70s-video quality it was shot in.

This was one of the earliest and more interesting treatments of the "Ark" spaceship concept. The movie Pandorum and several others can trace some of their roots back to this show.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2011, 05:09:17 AM »

I was a fan of his other little known 1973 TV series The Starlost.

Just a quickie, since I'm about to read the entry: the link should be The Starlost
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2011, 05:19:43 AM »

...and I have to say that the Wikipedia entry for The Starlost doesn't treat it particularly kindly -- although I can see the conceptual appeal!

Oh, and completely agreed on "...Ticktockman."

Mostly, Ellison infuriated me for writing less than I felt he should, and flirting with Hollywood and TV too much. Despite the latter, he still seems to slip under many people's radar...
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2011, 07:14:18 AM »

I was a fan of his other little known 1973 TV series The Starlost.

Just a quickie, since I'm about to read the entry: the link should be The Starlost

Thanks! Fixed now.  smiley

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Mostly, Ellison infuriated me for writing less than I felt he should, and flirting with Hollywood and TV too much. Despite the latter, he still seems to slip under many people's radar...
   

It is a shame. But that's what happens when hardly anybody (or maybe nobody?) can work with you - even if you are a self-confessed genius. But in all fairness, Ellison is a very good sci-fi writer. Probably one of the best. So he gets away with it despite his shabby treatment of colleague and fan alike.

He lost fans (and much respect within the writer's community) over the nonsense surrounding The Last Dangerous Visions anthology's protracted release schedule. I know one author who got caught up with that and attempted to get things resolved with Ellison on his own. Needless to say it went nowhere other than him getting an unbelievably self-righteous and nasty response from Ellison that could be completely summarized using only two very short English words. The author is still pissed about it to this very day.

And 'the word' is out on him in TV-land and Hollywood. So he's not seeing his stuff making it onto screens anywhere near as much as Phillip K. Dick or some others have. (That may not be a bad thing however, when you consider what Hollywood & TV does to most sci-fi novels they adapt.)

Anyhoo...Harlan is unique and getting up there. I recall reading somewhere he turned 77 (?) this year. We'll all miss him when he's gone - despite the fact that most people who have met Harlan Ellison seem to want to shoot him shortly afterwards.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 09:20:57 PM »

Here's a list of my SF library (text) on disk:
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AC Clarke - Reach for Tomorrow.txt                               
David Gerrold + Larry Niven - Flying Sorcerers.zip               
Gary W Shockley - The Disambiguation of Captain Shroud.zip       
Harry Harrison - Stainless Steel Rat 5 (TheSSR for President).zip
HHGTTG - complete.zip                                           
Iain Banks - Against a Dark Background.zip                       
Iain Banks - Canal Dreams.zip                                   
Iain Banks - Complicity.zip                                     
Iain Banks - Consider Phlebas.zip                               
Iain Banks - Look To Windward.zip                               
Iain Banks - The player of games.zip                             
Iain Banks - The State of the Art.zip                           
Isaac Asimov - Two cm Demon.zip                                 
Kurt Vonnegut - The Sirens of Titan (1).zip                     
Larry Niven - A Hole In Space (SSCol).zip                       
Larry Niven - Crashlander (1994).zip                             
Larry Niven - Heorot 1 - Legacy Of Heorot.zip                   
Larry Niven - Inferno (1976).zip                                 
Larry Niven - The Return of William Proxmire.zip                 
Larry Niven - The Ringworld Engineers.zip                       
Larry Niven - Unfinished Story 1 and 2 v1.0.zip                 
Philip K Dick - A Maze Of Death - [txt].zip                     
Philip K Dick - A Scanner Darkly (1977).zip                     
Philip K Dick - Complete Stories 4 (SSCol).zip                   
Philip K Dick - Counter Clock World.zip                         
Philip K Dick - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (txt).zip   
Philip K Dick - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.zip         
Philip K Dick - Dr Bloodmoney (1965).zip                         
Philip K Dick - Flow My Tears The Policeman Said (1974).zip     
Philip K Dick - Galactic Pot Healer.zip                         
Philip K Dick - How to Build a Universe.zip                     
Philip K Dick - Martian Time Slip.zip                           
Philip K Dick - Now Wait For Last Year.zip                       
Philip K Dick - Rautavaara's Case.zip                           
Philip K Dick - Second Variety (ebook).zip                       
Philip K Dick - Solar Lottery.zip                               
Philip K Dick - The 3 Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch.zip           
Philip K Dick - The Book of Philip K Dick.zip                   
Philip K Dick - The Man In The High Castle.zip                   
Philip K Dick - The Penultimate Truth.zip                       
Philip K Dick - The Simulacra v1.0 (txt).zip                     
Philip K Dick - The Unteleported Man.zip                         
Philip K Dick - The World Jones Made.zip                         
Philip K Dick - The Zap Gun.zip                                 
Philip K Dick - Ubik (1969).zip                                 
Philip K Dick - VALIS.zip                                       
Philip K Dick - Valisystem - A Work In Progress (1974).zip       
Philip K Dick - We Can Remember It For You Wholesale.zip         
Philip Kindred Dicktionary of PK Dick terminology.zip           
Robert Heinlein -Tunnel In the Sky.zip                           
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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2012, 03:03:28 AM »

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Do you have a free source for the PKD ones by any chance? I found one site where I didn't need a special reader but I could only snag 11 titles.
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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2012, 06:49:42 AM »

Well, I was variously given or obtained all those books from free sites in around 2005.
The first one in the list (a .TXT format file called "Reach for Tomorrow") was from the The Library of Congress Online Catalog
Not sure, but I think some of the others - e.g., the PK Dick ones - may have been from there too. They are variously in .RTF, .DOC., .PDF format.
I think quite a few also came from universities - e.g., Stanford U re PKD

Quite a few of the texts contain URLs to their sources.

I should be able to send you links to all those titles if you want to PM me for that info separately.
I provided a link to the HHTTG .zip file because that had been referred to in the discussion thread. The text files in that .ZIP file are .TEX format. I think it came from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Home Page
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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2012, 10:12:10 AM »

Oblivion: I rememer reading the story way back when. But, when I checked out that title on Google, I only found this story by Murray Leinster on Wikipedia. Googling to avoid that story got me nothing either.

Sidewise in Time - Wikipedia

Wash. Attorney: ‘I have physically traveled in time’


Below is an excerpt from here:




In other words, you can't change the past because you have already changed it.
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« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2012, 10:21:51 AM »

The 1973 BBC Radio broadcast of Isaac Asimov's The Foundation Trilogy is available on archive.org.

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The Foundation Trilogy concists of:
1. Foundations
2. Foundation and Empire
3. Second Foundation

The Foundation Trilogy is an epic science fiction series written over a span of forty-four years by Isaac Asimov. It consists of seven volumes that are closely linked to each other, although they can be read separately. The series is highly acclaimed, winning the one-time Hugo Award for "Best All-Time Series" in 1966.

The premise of the series is that mathematician Hari Seldon spent his life developing a branch of mathematics known as psychohistory, a concept devised by Asimov and his editor John W. Campbell. Using the law of mass action, it can predict the future, but only on a large scale; it is error-prone for anything smaller than a planet or an empire. It works on the principle that the behavior of a mass of people is predictable if the quantity of this mass is very large (equal to the population of the galaxy). The larger the mass, the more predictable is the future. Using these techniques, Seldon foresees the fall of the Galactic Empire, which encompasses the entire Milky Way, and a dark age lasting thirty thousand years before a second great empire arises. To shorten the period of barbarism, he creates two Foundations, small, secluded havens of art, science, and other advanced knowledge, on opposite ends of the galaxy.

The focus of the trilogy is on the Foundation of the planet Terminus. The people living there are working on an all-encompassing Encyclopedia, and are unaware of Seldon's real intentions (for if they were, the variables would become too uncontrolled). The Encyclopedia serves to preserve knowledge of the physical sciences after the collapse. The Foundation's location is chosen so that it acts as the focal point for the next empire in another thousand years (rather than the projected thirty thousand).

Audio has 8 parts

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_Trilogy_%28BBC_Radio%29

http://www.archive.org/de...imov-TheFoundationTrilogy

I'm glad I checked for this. I was going to post about this
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2012, 01:14:09 PM »

This Youtube video may belong in silly humor, but because it's a time travel video i'll put it here.

Quantum Lapse - YouTube

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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2012, 09:25:13 AM »

Here's a list of my SF library (text) on disk:
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AC Clarke - Reach for Tomorrow.txt                              
David Gerrold + Larry Niven - Flying Sorcerers.zip              
Gary W Shockley - The Disambiguation of Captain Shroud.zip      
Harry Harrison - Stainless Steel Rat 5 (TheSSR for President).zip
HHGTTG - complete.zip                                          
Iain Banks - Against a Dark Background.zip                      
Iain Banks - Canal Dreams.zip                                    
Iain Banks - Complicity.zip                                      
Iain Banks - Consider Phlebas.zip                                
Iain Banks - Look To Windward.zip                                
Iain Banks - The player of games.zip                            
Iain Banks - The State of the Art.zip                            
Isaac Asimov - Two cm Demon.zip                                  
Kurt Vonnegut - The Sirens of Titan (1).zip                      
Larry Niven - A Hole In Space (SSCol).zip                        
Larry Niven - Crashlander (1994).zip                            
Larry Niven - Heorot 1 - Legacy Of Heorot.zip                    
Larry Niven - Inferno (1976).zip                                
                        

IainB: I found 3 of these(and probably many more) at a large Russian site. Universities are not the only place you can get such things, but the site doen't seem to care about the legality of their sources. Do you want to know the address of the site(and the moral ambiguities of and viral dangers of it's offerings) or do you have all that you want?
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2012, 07:14:05 PM »

...Do you want to know the address of the site (and the moral ambiguities of and viral dangers of it's offerings)...?
Yes please - the URL would do fine. Ta.
I am always interested in looking at websites offering books to download.If it looks like a dodgy site, then I won't usually access it beyond the initial exploration.
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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2012, 01:58:59 AM »

...Do you want to know the address of the site (and the moral ambiguities of and viral dangers of it's offerings)...?
Yes please - the URL would do fine. Ta.
I am always interested in looking at websites offering books to download.If it looks like a dodgy site, then I won't usually access it beyond the initial exploration.

Might not be wise to post that link publicly on the forum, lest we are perceived to endorse piracy.
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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2012, 05:32:31 AM »

In case anyone is interested, I sent my browser off to the site that @Arizona Hot provided, but it was a decidedly "dodgy" site in Russia - Malwarebytes popped up and said it had:
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Successfully blocked access to a potentially malicious website xxx
Type outgoing
Port 61804, Process firefox.exe
From experience of using it to clean nasty things off other peoples' laptops, I place some faith in MWB - it's very good. So I'll not be visiting that site.
WHOIS searches indicated that the server was in Romania, and the site is registered in the Russian Federation.

The experience is probably yet another recommendation for MWB.    Thmbsup
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« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2012, 11:26:37 AM »

I have Malwarebytes installed, but as a manual secondary anti-virus scanner. Does it automatically update when it is the primary anti-virus. My primary updates automatically, 5 or 10 times a day (often when I start surfing!) I update Malwarebytes manually about once a week.
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« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2012, 05:05:08 PM »

I only use MBAM Free for scanning. But I find from checking manually that often it updates the database at least a couple of times a day. I always check before doing a scan.
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« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2012, 08:43:22 PM »

...Do you want to know the address of the site (and the moral ambiguities of and viral dangers of it's offerings)...?
Yes please - the URL would do fine. Ta.
I am always interested in looking at websites offering books to download.If it looks like a dodgy site, then I won't usually access it beyond the initial exploration.


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« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2012, 08:12:13 AM »

I must be in the early stages of my dotage. I've been gradually reading/re-reading all the original Tom Swift adventure stories and enjoying them quite a bit. Once they reach what's been dubbed the "second series" featuring Tom Swift Jr. (1954-1971) they escape (mostly) from their old "boy's adventure story" roots and actually become some decent examples of early sci-fi. They were surprisingly original for the era they came out in even if they weren't Jules Verne novels by any stretch. Innocent, patriotic, occasionally naive, and "strictly boys club" though they were, I find them a nice bit of no-brain fun reading.



From a cultural perspective, these stories were significant in that it made it cool to be a "brain" and a "geek." I think they served as inspiration and a "green light" for a lot of the young readers (like me) who decided they really wanted to do something with science or technology when they grew up. Half of the early personal computer crowd, and a good number of people involved in the manned US space program (back when the US still had one  Sick) acknowledge being inspired at an early age by these little tales. Not a bad thing when you think about the real technology and innovations many of them were responsible for bringing into this world. Be interesting to see if the generation growing up on Harry Potter and "young fantasy" novels will be inspired to do the same. (If not I guess they can always become wizards. Or maybe hook up with a really cool werewolf, or hottie vampire, and go have adventures battling flesh-eating zombies or something...)

Find summaries and Gutenberg links for the first series here.

The second series  is still under copyright. But very inexpensive used copies can often be found at 2nd-hand bookshops, Goodwill outlets, book faires, or online. I recently picked up a set of six at a local library sale for $4.

Story list for the second series (33 titles) behind the spoiler below.

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« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2012, 12:05:11 PM »

I only use MBAM Free for scanning. But I find from checking manually that often it updates the database at least a couple of times a day.
Do you have to run it as administrator before it will update?  I don't, and the update button is always greyed out.
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