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Carol Haynes

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The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« on: December 09, 2011, 02:50:33 PM »
Motorola has played Apple at their own game and won a patent case in Germany which could mean an injunction on sales of iPods and iPads in Europe.

http://www.zdnet.com...pad/1435?tag=nl.e589

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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 03:00:21 PM »
Motorola Mobility...isn't that what Google bought?

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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 04:16:12 PM »
Yep - so Google is taking on Apple - wait for the war!

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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 08:53:44 AM »
Yep - so Google is taking on Apple - wait for the war!
Time to go shopping for popcorn and beer! :-*
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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 12:30:51 PM »
It ain't over yet. Let's join f0dder and bring plenty of popcorn (pretzels for 40hz!) and beer. This is gonna be a long one, I'm sure.

On second thought, let's do a kegger and have some barbeque while we're at it. Don't forget to throw on some pineapple/veggie kebabs for Mouser! ;D

Two disturbing articles spotted courtesy of OS News.

This one describes how Apple has recently gotten into bed with a heavily funded patent troll: Link here.

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Apple Made a Deal with the Devil (No, Worse: A Patent Troll)
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 10th Dec 2011 10:09 UTC, submitted by Valhalla


Apple Just when I thought the company I once admired greatly couldn't sink any lower. "Over the last two years, Apple has been engaged in vicious legal battles over smartphone patents, many of which are aimed at squelching (or squeezing money out of) manufacturers of devices running Android. And now, for some reason, it has given valuable patents to a patent troll - which is using them to sue many of the top technology companies in the world."

Link to referenced article here.

The next article details how Apple has continued to use abusive patent filings and litigation practices to impede the creation of open standards. Link here.

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Apple Using Patents to Undermine Open Standards Again
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2011 23:10 UTC


Think companies only use patents to block competition? Heck no, they apparently also use them to hinder the w3c standards process. As Opera's Haavard details, Apple is yet again using patents (or even just patent applications) to hinder or block the development of open standards. Sickening.

Link to referenced article (very good read btw) here.

On a more positive note, is this article which discusses the issue of "obviousness" as it relates to Apple's iPad. This article is probably one of the most interesting I've seen in quite some time. Hopefully, a judge with a brain (along with the appeals court that Apple will file with if sanity and common sense prevails) will read and digest this article along with the links found within. A must read for Apple friend and foe alike.

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The CrunchPad is Proof the iPad was Obvious
posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2011 23:41 UTC


The CrunchPad (and its eventual consumer incarnation the JooJoo) is often presented as prof of obviousness in the iPad's design. For the first time, we have an interesting insider view on this matter - Nik Cubrilovic was involved with Micheal Arrington's CrunchPad project from the very beginning, and has written a lengthy blog post about how the CrunchPad really is proof the iPad's design was obvious.

Most of the time, arguments surrounding prior art and obviousness come from lawyers and their drummed up experts in court cases. It's also pretty common for us regular folk to discuss these matters. What isn't common, however, is to have someone who actually worked on a product that makes up prior art and/or proof of obviousness in important and possibly far-reaching legal cases provide his or her view.

Nik Cubrilovic worked on the CrunchPad project (he even built prototypes), and thus, can offer interesting insights into this matter. "[The CrunchPad] was an attempt to build a cheap tablet computer and we started the project a full two years before the iPad was announced. Apple is attempting to patent protect features of a design that we had published years before the iPad was announced. Our own designs were inspired by previous tablet designs, and minimalism in a tablet wasn't first seen with Apple and the iPad," he details, "We had no idea about the iPad, nor the patents, and I would consider us to be ordinary observers, and the design we came up with is exactly like what iPad became."

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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 01:00:08 PM »
On a more positive note, is this article which discusses the issue of "obviousness" as it relates to Apple's iPad. This article is probably one of the most interesting I've seen in quite some time. Hopefully, a judge with a brain (along with the appeals court that Apple will file with if sanity and common sense prevails) will read and digest this article along with the links found within. A must read for Apple friend and foe alike.

And then there is this proof of concept from 1969:





And then there is this.

Not to mention the many tablets that actually existed for real world use prior to the iPad. And the whole idea is nothing more than enlarging a PDA, any way. And PDAs have been around for quite a long time.

Does one mean to say anyone could just take anything small, supersize it, and get a patent on it merely because it's bigger?

Can I patent a giant roll of toilet paper, bigger than the world has ever seen? Could it have a real world use, perhaps cleaning up oil spills?


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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 05:29:55 PM »
Coupled with the recent losses against Samsung, this is indeed hilarious news! :)

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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 10:38:45 AM »
Google Wants a 2.25% Cut of Every iPhone Sale

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Looking to earn back some of the $12.5 billion it’s spending to buy Motorola Mobility, Google sent a letter to the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers looking for a maximum 2.25% cut of sales for phones that use Motorola’s technology, including Apple‘s iPhone.


http://mashable.com/...gle-cut-iphone-sale/


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Re: The plot thickens - iPhone and iPad sales banned in Europe ...
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 10:47:49 AM »
From a couple of the comments...

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the road to hell is paved with patent lawyers….

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Don’t be evil…..fail.

QFT.